I don't think I'm being too harsh. Nintendo expects me to pay an online fee on top of a hardware price which certainly includes a very healthy profit margin, while also making money on every game sold. That's harsh.
IndieGogo - Windows 10 GPD Handheld -299$ "A Laptop Fitting in Your Pocket"
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This is a hybrid too, it has HDMI output and you can connect other controllers to it too
I wasn't just talking about the functionality itself, even the psp had a tv out(and in fact i was expecting Sony to evolve it making a Switch-like PSP2, not a successor without a any tv out at all!), Switch is designed around the concept of hybrid, it has a dock that makes it run games at higher resolution, joycons that can be removed and play multiplayer or attached together etc, innovations aren't free.
I'm against paid online too, infact i didn't buy a home console also for that reason, but it also applies to ps4 and xb1, it's not just Switch, and again innovations have a price and i don't think Switch is really that overpriced, unless you have some evidence that Switch is way more overpriced than other consoles.
I'm pretty sure you can customise the GPD Win to use more power while connected to a power source. The joycons are also irrelevant: I can use whatever controllers I want with a GPD Win: a DS4, a XB1 Controller, a Wii U Pro controller, even a Wii motion controller. Hell, even the joycons can probably be used with the GPD Win
. So those so called "innovations" are... Kinda meh, to be honest.
Tizoc
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Can i wirelessly connect a ds4 too? I think that is possible but i mainly game with a connected ds4 to my lappyThis is a hybrid too, it has HDMI output and you can connect other controllers to it too
Ghostshark
Member
This thing looks pretty awesome. I'm surprised I haven't heard of it before seeing this thread. Can this run Blizzard games like Diablo 3 or Overwatch? Steam games like Undertale or Binding of Isaac? Not expecting high settings, but are they playable even on the minimum settings?
GPD Win has Bluetooth so yesCan i wirelessly connect a ds4 too? I think that is possible but i mainly game with a connected ds4 to my lappy
Not sure about Diablo 3 but overwatch is very much playable. At 720 native even ( https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dt-JvpdJBi0 )
Controls are obviously not the best but for certain characters you can play them quite decently. Can always connect a mouse too
I'm pretty sure you can customise the GPD Win to use more power while connected to a power source. The joycons are also irrelevant: I can use whatever controllers I want with a GPD Win: a DS4, a XB1 Controller, a Wii U Pro controller, even a Wii motion controller. Hell, even the joycons can probably be used with the GPD Win
The fact that you don't like it is irrelevant, R&D and all the material, connections etc aren't going to be free just because you don't like the result, i agree that Switch isn't even that innovative, a pstv + dekavita was basically switch before switch(and what vita should have been imo)
but it doesn't matter when it comes to cost.
Ghostshark
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Not sure about Diablo 3 but overwatch is very much playable. At 720 native even ( https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dt-JvpdJBi0 )
Controls are obviously not the best but for certain characters you can play them quite decently. Can always connect a mouse too
Hot damn, sold. I wasn't expecting the controls to be fantastic, but the fact it's even an option is amazing.
I mean, it's not like the GPD was made without R&D so I don't see what your point is here.The fact that you don't like it is irrelevant, R&D and all the material, connections etc aren't going to be free just because you don't like the result, i agree that Switch isn't even that innovative, a pstv + dekavita was basically switch before switch(and what vita should have been imo)
but it doesn't matter when it comes to cost.
I, as a consumer, don't care about those specific applications on the switch, and the GPD already allows me to have similar or even better options, so I think the Switch is overpriced a lot for what it offers in comparison. That's all there is to it. That Nintendo might have spent 1 billion in R&D is completely and utterly irrelevant for my purchasing decisions.
From checking a couple YouTube videos , Diablo 3 seems playable as well, but no idea how it behaves in more chaotic conditions.
Ghostshark
Member
How's the build quality on it? It doesn't look like the most comfortable thing to use, but I'd hope it feels durable.
It's a lot more comfortable to use than it looks like, especially when you realize the shoulder buttons control mouse clicks and you don't have to rely on l3 and r3 like some people thought, boy those guys were dumb haha.
Only thing I don't like about it control wise is that the mouse is perma mapped to the right stick and I would rather have the left stick used for it but oh well
Also the dpad isn't great for fighting games, which is a shame because KoF XIII looks so beautiful on this device.
Other than that it is surprisingly comfortable to use. Very happy with my buy.
The GPD is a traditional handheld, there are already many examples of traditional handhelds to copy, GPD win is more or less an updated pandora with windows
Switch is a hybrid, something no one tried before, so that's not true for it, think about how problematic was the R&D of joycons for example, they had to be good vertical as handheld controls and horizontal as standalone controllers(honestly i doubt that they are comfortable), big manufacturers do traditional controllers for decades and despite that people still complain about this or that traditional controller, now think how many ideas, configurations, prototypes and compromises were made just for joycons to make them decent enough.
What about power? As a hybrid switch should have been be closer to a handheld or to a home console(with all the price, battery, target market etc consequences)? Again lots of ideas, prototypes, compromises etc, you are greatly underestimating the R&D for something new.
I'm not trying to convince you to buy a switch, i won't buy it too(not with the current price and lineup at least), i'll wait for the GPD win 2 or another win handheld, you are totally free to think that switch innovations are futile and a waste of money and obviously Nintendo priced switch to get some money back, but again the fact that you don't like its innovations don't make them free and if you think that if GPD instead of Nintendo r&d-ed switch it would have been a lot cheaper then you are fooling yourself.
Ghostshark
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That's good to hear, I need this device in my life. Having a pocket emulator / old game machine will be fantastic. I'd love to be able to play Baldur's Gate 2, Fallout 1 and 2, Diablo 2, and countless other oldies on the go.
It can run skyrim with drops below 30. Oblivion is probably fine.
Tizoc
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aSKING again in case anyone can answer :X
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
It's out. Better keyboard, better button and dpad feel, matte top finish. Slower memory.
Otherspacing
Member
How does the GPD fair as a daily laptop?
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Get a GPD Pocket instead.
In terms of what? Web browsing,email checking or office documents? Sure it can be done on gpd win but the frankly the keyboard gpd win isn't ideal for typing. You can either wait for the upcoming GPD pocket and get a bluetooth controller later.
https://liliputing.com/2017/01/gpd-pocket-will-7-inch-touchscreen-laptop-windows-ubuntu-support.html
Or
A cheaper 2 in 1 with a core M3 which is the cube mix plus.
https://techtablets.com/2017/01/cube-mix-plus-unboxing-first-look-review/
I tried to use it as a daily laptop but if you need to write long documents an external keyboard is mandatory.
I used it to work with excel and word files, I utilized an external keyboard and mouse, then I plugged it to an external monitor and the experience was very smooth.
My 'S' keys randomly stops working. The screen is too small imho. It randomly wakes up from sleep, draining the already middling battery life faster. Other than that, is workable I guess. I still use my Surface 3 (non-pro) as my laptop and is a much more polished experience even though the SoC and OS is the same.
The GPD Win is not a polished product. I like it, but I don't recommend it.
New controller firmware is out.
This one without mouse acceleration.
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4944216173
This one without mouse acceleration.
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4944216173
On the download link click the button that says 下载(3.4M)
MicroByter
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This thing is so much fun, having a blast playing Rocket League, Broforce and Gamecube games on the go. Took it on my trip over the weekend and the plane ride and delays were so much more bearable.
Only issue I have is my fan started buzzing. I noticed that the day after I got back and it doesn't seem like it's hitting anything internally. Anyone have this issue? I won't send this back just for this problem, everything else seems fine and I can live with it, just wondering if I had any options. Will running without the fan be an issue?
Only issue I have is my fan started buzzing. I noticed that the day after I got back and it doesn't seem like it's hitting anything internally. Anyone have this issue? I won't send this back just for this problem, everything else seems fine and I can live with it, just wondering if I had any options. Will running without the fan be an issue?
is there a step by step process for this?
There's no way any of those products are as appealing as the Switch. Ergonomics matter.
GhostTrick
Banned
It's not as appealing. It's far more appealing than Switch. Been playing Wind Waker on the thing without any troubles. So damn good. Also been enjoying a fair share of my Steam library.
Ergonomics matter. They don't seem too bad on this device, but I'm open to the idea of Switch being better in that regard.
However, what also matters is the difference between a library of thousands of games (hundreds of which I already own) natively, and thousands more streaming from my PC at great quality, versus a few dozen at best that I'm interested in over the lifetime of a device.
HowardRoark
Member
Anyone 3D Print a good grip for this yet? I haven't used mine much because of cramping
You're right, GPD Win is far, far, far more appealing.
I do hope I don't end up with one that has any hardware issues, exchanging it would be complicated.
Hmm, depending on how it feels to hold I might give designing one a try.
A grip is desperately needed. I would gladly buy a couple from you and try to mod one for additional battery life.
I have no means (and no intention) to sell any, but if I were to come up with anything that works well I'd put it up on thingiverse.
HowardRoark
Member
Awesome, let me know if you create any good designs. Also, since you are the god-king of Dark Souls PC performance, let us know if you are able to squeeze some extra performance out of it!
Its not great but this is the best improvised grip I've seen so far.
http://blog.livedoor.jp/sega_ss/archives/9123184.html#more
The graphics driver crashes and keyboard failures seemed to be because of improper cpu voltage which seem to be fixed with the revision so hopefully no one encounters those anymore.
http://blog.livedoor.jp/sega_ss/archives/9123184.html#more
Of all the few people who had issues with the revised models most of them were the first batch so hopefully you'll be good to go.
The graphics driver crashes and keyboard failures seemed to be because of improper cpu voltage which seem to be fixed with the revision so hopefully no one encounters those anymore.
HowardRoark
Member
Is that a 3DS grip? I have a couple of them and they are pretty close, but not quite as snug as they need to be to not have the Win fall out.
That'd be fine too!
All the article says is its for the 3DS LL/XL.
Some foam around the edges can help but yeah its in no way perfect and probably as close anyone will get until someone designs something specifically for the Win.
Kinda surprised GPD hasn't done anything like that.
Way back they were working on accessories that never came about and a case/grip for the Win would probably sell decently.
MicroByter
Member
The only issue I've had so far is the fan buzz, but other than that, everything is good so far.
A few people asked about the deal I mention above. I think it's still available, but I don't know for how long.
Basically, you use this flash deal, together with the coupon code "GBTPC" to get an additional 13% off. Note that this code will only work if you register a gearbest account first and confirm your email. You were previously able to safe a bit more money, at least if you were paying in € with Paypal, by changing the currency to MXN$, but I think this is no longer the case.
That's it.
Basically, you use this flash deal, together with the coupon code "GBTPC" to get an additional 13% off. Note that this code will only work if you register a gearbest account first and confirm your email. You were previously able to safe a bit more money, at least if you were paying in € with Paypal, by changing the currency to MXN$, but I think this is no longer the case.
That's it.
purseowner
Member
It's a lottery for sure, but I haven't had a single issue on mine and use it extensively daily.
Yup. Apart from the issue with the system not restarting properly with the AC plugged in (resolved by changing a bios setting), I haven't had any real issues. I have never been able to get Saint's Row 3 to work, though.
Part of me wonders if people having software problems are screwing around too much with bios and Windows settings, but obviously hardware-related issues are another story.
broncobuster
Banned
So far my main issue is one hard crash playing Giana Sisters Twisted Dreams. Mostly smooth since then.