Macho Madness
Member
This is absolutely how I feel. If it's on the bucket list, go. But access was restricted before now, and that's not going to change much.
This is absolutely how I feel. If it's on the bucket list, go. But access was restricted before now, and that's not going to change much.
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Rösti
Unconfirmed Member
I believe this is mentioned in the guidelines/FAQ for the show as something not to do, which these people probably did not read. Even so, it's common courtesy to not obstruct pathways not letting others through. I can only imagine the situation come June.
//DEVIL//
Member
250$ to play early demos while waiting an hour for ur turn and suffocate in line waiting to go in an event or conference smelling people fartx because they are excited to scream "oohh " " yeshhhhh"
No pass I'll watch in my home in my big TV and I will be as excited without paying a cent
No pass I'll watch in my home in my big TV and I will be as excited without paying a cent
Doesn't Gamescom open a few days before the public just for the press to walk around and try things? That seems to be the best way to do it.
Welp you had a good run E3 have fun doing your job everyone best of luck to you.
Your in my world now have fun.
My anxiety levels are rising just looking at that picture lol
ClosingADoor
Member
Haha, $250. Which does not include the press conferences, getting any behind closed doors stuff, and appointments. Well, have fun standing in line all day. You'd be crazy to pay that money.
There is 1 press day, and 2 complete business halls only for press and business appointments.
APZonerunner
Member
Media who actually have their contact book in order never worry about that anyway; for Zelda I had a slot pre-booked, walked up, played for 90 minutes, left. No waiting. As a member of the press I don't get annoyed at this so much as... it becomes difficult to move from place to place because there's no delineation.
At Gamescom, there are clearly defined Business Areas and Public Areas. So EA has an enormous booth in the public area that looks like an E3/PAX style booth, but then in the business area they have an equally huge stand that's more low-key, with places to sit, coffee machines, and of course all the games but without the mad lines. This is perfect; somebody posted a picture of Gamescom just above and the horrible crowds, but the difference is every year in Gamescom I never go down to those halls. I usually make one yearly trip down there to look at the crowds, grimace, and then I leave. I stick to the business area, because that's where my meetings/hands-ons/interviews are.
The difference with E3 is that it's all lumped in together, and this has always been a problem, at least for the 8 years I've been going to the show. The public hasn't been let in on this scale before, but for every legit retail buyer or media member there's somebody from a blog who isn't actually working or lower-level retail employees who've been approved for badges who are mulling about making it difficult to get to places, swarming around the Nyko booth as it throws absolute garbage swag into the crowd, etc.
I don't have a fundamental problem with any of this - I think it's cool they get to see the new products and all that - but I'd much rather if it were like Gamescom and it were split. If this is successful for E3, I hope we can eventually shift to a Gamescom system where the business and the pleasure are more clearly divided/defined, if only to make it easier to get work done.
There are other factors to this, too, like god, it must suck to be famous. At E3s past you'd see people like Miyamoto out exploring rival stands a fair bit, and while they would get approached it was generally more restrained than the frenzied free-for-all you'd get around a figure like that at a fully public show like a PAX or Gamescom. In recent years that seems to have dipped significantly as more public have been allowed in, and that kinda sucks for an entirely different set of reasons.
falconxcrunner09
Member
Is the public allowed to go into the press conferences or no?
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Rösti
Unconfirmed Member
gamescom has a business day focused on press and trade. Usually one day before the show opens to the public.
Press conferences are not part of E3, those are managed by each respective company (Microsoft, Sony etc.).
VichoCardenas
Banned
What saddens me the most is that for organizers having people packed in like they were on a subway is a great success and is completely ok to treat your attendees like animals *sigh*
The Dutch Slayer
Member
Well to be honest 2 things.
On the "press only" day they are letting in 2500 people who got a VIP pass those are reg consumers so there's that.
But mainly if your doing you job well you are not in the public area at all your in biz only and that is off limits for public anyway.
You only going onto the show floor in the morning when you come in and when you leave in the evening.
Alex_Mexico
Member
Wait so every day will be open to the public? That sounds like a bad idea. Why not like TGS? The first two for the press and, say, another two for the public.
John Kowalski
Banned
I'd rather buy a Wii U for that kind of money.
Macho Madness
Member
Not unless invited by each company who holds them. Access to them is handled entirely separately.
The Dutch Slayer
Member
Probably because more days = spend more money on the booth and personal at the location.
Nice, now I can fullfill my childhood dream to travel to USA and go to E3 without having to create a gaming webpage. (I know it will be underwhelming and I'll just be queuing in line for hours, but it is one of the things I always wanted to do when I had some money).
I don't understand the hate, now more people can go to E3 and it isn't just for a select group of people. How can this be bad? Would people be happy if they reduced the press invitations to only the big sites to have to wait even less time?.
I don't understand the hate, now more people can go to E3 and it isn't just for a select group of people. How can this be bad? Would people be happy if they reduced the press invitations to only the big sites to have to wait even less time?.
ZiggyPalffyLA
Member
Why is everybody saying it costs $250 when OP clearly stated there is an early bird discount for $150?
Empyrean Heaven
Member
This is going to backfire bad. You're going to have screaming idiots, crazed fanboys, and OMG COSPLAYERS.
ss_lemonade
Member
Didn't it use to be open a long time ago, or am I just making that up? I could have sworn my older brother attended one in the early 90s. He even got to meet Ed Semrad of EGM there
The Dutch Slayer
Member
That was already going on for about 12 years now.
MysteryQuesadilla
Member
This seems like it's just going to create a logistical nightmare for those actually trying to cover reveals professionally unless they also have something in mind for separate press passes for the presentations.
MrBenchmark
Member
Shows like this should be open to the public. Run it like the auto show have a press only day then open to the public.
Empyrean Heaven
Member
Sans cosplayers. At least before this it actually had the air of being an industry convention. Now, you're probably going to get a cosplay contest.
The press E3 experience is going to backstage meeting rooms and skipping lines for scheduled appointments. This doesn't really have much of an impact.
I'm sure this won't in any way annoy the press people trying to do their jobs. But then again, considering how many publishers have pulled out of E3 over the last couple years and how eerily empty it actually seemed last year (press people weirded the fuck out that they didn't have to yell to hear one another), this might not be a big deal.
Depends on the press, really.
Shocking news to me, honestly... was definitely NOT expecting this.
Macho Madness
Member
Not seeing much pushback from the press. Exhibitors, who are worried that a stressful week just got more stressful, are who I'm seeing it from.
Happy to hear about this. But getting a ticket at $150 is going to be hell.
Yeah, the top floor of LACC is where all the meeting areas are. I see a lot of people in this thread do not know this...
Yeah, the top floor of LACC is where all the meeting areas are. I see a lot of people in this thread do not know this...
Why are people so "stressed" by this.
The pictures of the crowds don't even phase me.
Granted, I basically never get anxiety and am relaxed 24/7 365...so maybe that is it. I'd love to go.
Hispanic! At the Disco
Member
Practically my whole family has gone but me. Parents, brother, aunts, uncles, cousins. At $150 I must. Its my destiny!
Samurai G0SU
Member
return of boothbabes will ruin anything!
MHWilliams
Member
Those are handled by their respective owners, not the ESA. The ticket doesn't get you into press conferences.
Gamescom has a separate press day and split off business areas.
If you're covering the show professionally, the additional bodies means a more packed showfloor and less available hotels.
J, don't act like trying to go from South Hall to West Hall will be a breeze.
I don't think it's the end of the world. But it's certainly not grand either. E3 wants PAX's money, but lacks the community-focused events that categorize a PAX.
No kidding. They would do well to have designated press and public days but it doesn't look like that's happening. This news is really souring my motivation to attend this year when so much can be covered at home.