AbandonedTrolley
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Any updates?
Sony X800D well - reviewed, 4k+HDR TV with low input lag
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Any updates?
AbandonedTrolley
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http://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/a20c636
43 has VA
http://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/308a635
49 has IPS
What is interesting is that they are now claiming 10 bit panel (8 bit + FRC), which they never said before.
DieHardCubFN
Neo Member
I ended up changing the color Temp to high for a little more color pop in HDR. It does help. Kind of drives me crazy when you go back the PS4 menu, and it looks kinda greyish.
Still showing as dispatched.
But I am 100% sure its not going to ship
There are now 3 user comments in two days saying it was cancelled with no corropsondance
Same. Except the tracking no longer exists. At least when using royal mails tracking. Not 'information' not found'.
Hispanicguy
Member
I'm glad I came across this thread. Horizon made me a believer!
I would love a 43". That seems like a great size for my room. And that price is awesome for what it offers.
Going to read through some of the thread just to get more impressions but chances are this is what I'll be buying. Thanks, guys!
I would love a 43". That seems like a great size for my room. And that price is awesome for what it offers.
Going to read through some of the thread just to get more impressions but chances are this is what I'll be buying. Thanks, guys!
picture mode game
auto picture off
light sensor off
set brightness to 10, or 1, then leave brightness alone. the tv will automatically set brightness to max when a hdr picture appears.
contrast to 98
sharpness 50
color 50
live color off
black level leave alone
clearness off
gamma 0
black adjust off
adv contrast enhancer off
color temperature warm
leave adv color temperature settings alone
reality creation off
motionflow off
film mode off
hdr mode auto
hdmi video range auto
colour space auto
make sure enhanced hdmi is turned on in the tv settings.
also make sure youre using hdmi ports 2 or 3.
Parapraxis
Member
Its not going to blind me is it? I'm a bit adverse to overly bright TVs.
EDIT: NVM, found a good description of what is happening. It basically increases range of brightness, not overall brightness. Cool.
ToyMachine228
Member
So I'm way behind on this, but is this one of the best gaming TV's going? Is the price point still around $600?
soldierblue
Member
Did you clean it while it was on or still warm?
I did that to my 60" Sony, and it caused dark patches due to the panel overheating in spots that got cold from the cloth, after which I tried to move the blotches off using various methods, ultimately ending up accidentally pushing too hard and having my thumb slip totally destroying the panel.
This is why I am in this thread and waiting for a sale on the x800d lol...
While on, LED backlit displays don't usually give of much the in the way of heat, so that won't be a concern. In terms of the amount of pressure, I really mean feather light, though I've seen panels take a fair bit of abuse so I'm surprised that happened with yours.
DieHardCubFN
Neo Member
The HDR in Horizon Zero Dawn is kinda subtle. Was expecting more, but still absolutely stunning in 4K. The amount of detail is so good.
no.
one of the purposes of hdr is to give really bright highlights to things.
eg. looking at a 100w light bulb in a game or film will actually make your eyes hurt/squint like in real life.
youre not going get the brightest of displays anyway with this tv as it doesnt have the absolute maximum brightness rating of other hdr tvs'
hdr top rating is 1000nits or cd/m2. this tv has about 380nits/cdm2
youll notice that as a result of brightness maxing out that very black scenes will look a little washed out.
(nothing you can do. and certainly do not lower brightness as that defeats the purpose of hdr.)
its because theres no local dimming on this tv, which actively shuts off leds in areas of the screen where theres no/limited colour.
games like resident evil 7 wont have the same really deep blacks in them when youre walking around the dark house.
dont fiddle with black level to try and compensate. all that will do is crush the blacks and lose you picture detail.
Rien
Jelly Belly
Amazing! Thanks man
Great settings, nearly like my own. The only change I had was to increase color to 60. It really made things more colorful Matter of taste of course.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
I have brightness (backlight) at 25. Although I guess my playing environment is well lit.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
I think game mode just prevents people from activating settings that increase latency. Though I could be wrong.
So - no more deep blacks - and washed out colours - and low nits - HDR is pointless on a backlit LED such as this
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
No not pointless.
Dominican Power
Member
43in are all sold out and only the 49 is available. Ugh.
eastcoastkody
Member
its pretty noticeable when u toggle the HDR on/off in a game. Especially Uncharted 4...like...ugh...im glad i didn't have to play the non-hdr version
rtings says Graphics mode is the same as Game mode..as far as latency
It's pointless without local dimming, all you are getting is a game that is tone mapped differently.
This threads needs to die , the number of people that have run out to by this non-HDR TV because of it is such a shame
I assumed the money would have gone out when it 'shipped'; so that's not surprising.
I guess now the question is whether they cancel and then refund the money; or the TV just doesn't turn up at all and we have to go through the Amazon claim process to get the money back (which takes a while, I gather). I'm pretty sure there won't be a third scenario; i.e. that the TV actually turns up. But fingers crossed!
Good to hear Android 7.0 Nougat will come. The fact they will update 2015 models as well means that we might see a better update in 2018 as well. Also nice to hear Hybrid Log Gamma will come with an update as well.
The X800E is looking to be an almost identical model to this television, based on the decriptions at Sony and stores like BHPhotoVideo etc. Maybe there is 16gb onboard storage, some better sound technologies, but things like the X Reality Pro 4K all stay the same. Let's see how many nits of brightness this years sets will have.
The X800E is looking to be an almost identical model to this television, based on the decriptions at Sony and stores like BHPhotoVideo etc. Maybe there is 16gb onboard storage, some better sound technologies, but things like the X Reality Pro 4K all stay the same. Let's see how many nits of brightness this years sets will have.
Gunslinger
Member
You guys keep live color on or off?
joesploggs2
Neo Member
So based on Digital Foundry and other review sites I am almost about to hit the button on a Samsung Ks7000 but this thread is throwing me slightly.
Any comparison advice or suggestions? Thanks
Any comparison advice or suggestions? Thanks
Parapraxis
Member
http://ca.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare
This is extremely hyperbolic, the X800D is stil a fantastic TV with good HDR ( and it is %100 HDR), just not as good as some models which start at twice the price.
Just got this tv to replace my aging 9 year old sony bravia 1080p tv. Just using a regular ps4 and playing HZD it already shits on my old tv from a mountain. Smart TV features are pretty sweet as well.
Using all the rtings.com settings atm, enhances hdmi, game mode, brightness 1, contrast max rest on auto and it looks so sweet.
Is motionflow worth using?
Going to get a ps4 pro tomorrow so I can actually play in 4k and HDR.
Using all the rtings.com settings atm, enhances hdmi, game mode, brightness 1, contrast max rest on auto and it looks so sweet.
Is motionflow worth using?
Going to get a ps4 pro tomorrow so I can actually play in 4k and HDR.
The Artisan
Member
did you get the 43 or 49?
Got the 43 VA panel. My old tv was a 40". It used to blend colors together, was blurry and generally looked awful compared to this.
Apparently HDR is working in HZD at 1080p already with the regular ps4, the colors look more natural. With HDR off ingame, the colors look more cartoony.
Dominican Power
Member
Is the 49's picture that bad compared to the 43? I had to settle for the 49 because 43 were all sold out. I probably wouldn't be able to tell because I'm still using a 10 year old Samsung LNS3251D. So it's going to be massive upgrade.
It's a good TV... but it's an IPS with not great blacks [and therefore, contrast is worse than with 43" VA].
Dominican Power
Member
I know that. I just wanted to know how noticeable the difference is
Nostremitus
Member
Motionflow is good if low framerate causes you to get headaches. Otherwise, it causes input lag when gaming.
I use it on my Bravia for 30fps games because I get simulation sickness from low framerates on large screens.
There are people on this board that believe motion interpolation is the devil. I think it's fine as long as it's not cranked up so high it creates artifacts.
styl3s
Member
I bought the 49" the other day and love it i didn't notice anything different between my friends 43" version and my 49" but i also don't have an eye for all the stuff like other people do. I do know that there are people who complain about shitty panels they got on the 49", bad lottery i guess? I have yet to come across any of those reported problems thankfully.
I went through hell with the KS8000 after 3 back-back-back shitty panels i settled with this.
For me, honestly, it's not.
When I booted up HZD in my PS4 Pro last night and played it, both my wife and my sister-in-law audibly said WOW. There was a part where the sun was shining on Young Aloy and I very much so had to squint my eyes because it was so bright. It looks GREAT on my 49 inch, and I have zero buyer's remorse.
To EvB and every other detractor in this thread: I get it, it's a mid-range TV. I wanted a LG B6, but I didn't have $2k+ to drop on a TV at the time. I'm not a fan of playing the Samsung lottery, so I skipped the KS8000. But for what I paid for it, this TV is EXCELLENT.
Again, I get it. You get what you pay for. I paid for mid range. I didn't buy a Nissan Altima expecting the speed and power of a Nissan 370Z.
Right now, the LG OLEDs are the best TVs for 4k HDR content, but that doesn't mean that this Sony product is just trash. It's not.
It's really good, bordering on great, even.
CaptainSmirnov
Member
Have had the 43 inch for about a month.
Primary purpose was to use as a pc monitor but I may also hook up my ps4 once if I feel like I need my gaming in one room.
Honestly for the price it's fantastic and rivals the JS8500 I have in PQ other than its lower peak brightness and lack of any dimming (also glad my expensive at the time JS8500 is still relevant, at least in my eyes).
I've been switching screens for my PC for the past two years, I'm finally satisfied.
Primary purpose was to use as a pc monitor but I may also hook up my ps4 once if I feel like I need my gaming in one room.
Honestly for the price it's fantastic and rivals the JS8500 I have in PQ other than its lower peak brightness and lack of any dimming (also glad my expensive at the time JS8500 is still relevant, at least in my eyes).
I've been switching screens for my PC for the past two years, I'm finally satisfied.
Does the netflix app on the TV supports 4k and HDR? or do I have to use my ps4's netflix app for that?
Thanks, Ill test it out.
Thanks, Ill test it out.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
About what should the Q9 cost and how does it compare to the Sony X930E?
The Artisan
Member
the actual tv must look like a new world but size wise it doesn't feel much different then right?
It's funny you mention this.
The Netflix TV app far surpasses the PS4 app because it does 4K AND HDR. The PS4 only does 4k for right now.
Hopefully there will be an update soon, but I like using the TV App.
I would advise getting an LED USB backlight strip for the 49 for dark room use. In a well lit room the 49 looks fine as far as blacks.
Thanks, subscribed to the 4k subscription and tried out Marco polo and chefs table. It looks amazing. The tv app works quite well. Need to sort out some speakers for this though setup though, normally I just use headphones on the ps4.
This stuff is great, I've been missing out, but I primarily game on PC at 1440p 144hz gsync etc. I'll be playing my ps4 a lot more often now.
Yeah size feels exactly the same, but I sit quite close about 5 feet away, so it's perfect for me.
Really enjoying the blacks on this VA panel, there's no BLB or clouding and I expected it to have a bit of clouding.
Next step is OLED for sure when we get hdmi 2.1 panels and maybe variable refresh rates.