Why is there so much rape in Yaoi?

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Lois_Lane

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Like I don't understand. Yuri doesn't have this problem. Shougo can be stalker creepy but not full on forced penetration. The closest genre I've seen come to Yaoi's rape fetish is Seinen and it nowhere permeates the genre like it does Yaoi. What gives?
 

Alucrid

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Lois_Lane

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companies trying to appeal to the fujioshi, perhaps?
Yeah but why rape? And why just Yaoi? Jousen and shoujo don't have this issue and they are directed at women too. Like I am fine with the fetish but I don't want to have to spend hours hunting just to find one manga without it. What's the obsessive allure?
 

Ray Wonder

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I am so far out of the anime/manga scene, but I am pretty sure those are mostly genre titles and age ranges. Like how we have LGBT fiction, YA, etc.

Oh ok thanks, I wasn't looking it up because there's apparently rape in it and I'm at work lol.
 

Angry Grimace

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I mean, I've never read one, but my understanding is that yaoi is very much centered around seme and uke roles (dominant and passive respectively) which lends itself to that.
 

BlitzKeeg

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Hentai in general is so fucking rapey

Main reason why I can't enjoy the medium

I mentioned this in a thread earlier today.

Why can't I just enjoy some anime titties? Why does there always have to be some sort of rape or person below the age of consent involved?

This applies to porn in general actually. Can't watch the majority of sexual content without consent being on shaky ground. Which just makes the whole thing super gross to me.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Is there not a central cartoon porn agency regulating the content?

They've tried to set one up, actually, but it received a ton of pushback from the industry.
 

Seesaw15

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I think women/people who read yaoi like to see the male characters vulnerable. Role reversal/shift in power dynamic.
 
I mean, I've never read one, but my understanding is that yaoi is very much centered around seme and uke roles (dominant and passive respectively) which lends itself to that.

Yep, fujoshi are still very much into the rigid stereotype of the assholish/cold older top and the fragile meek bottom.

Works written by male authors tend to have way more variety.
 
I'm no cultural expert (insert meme) but part of having a sexually repressed society is the idea that non-conforming sexual desire would need to be instilled in someone through extreme actions, at least in the fantasy world that anime/manga exist in. Basically because it's not generally talked about openly in society, it's still commonly presented as a taboo or secret even within the media fetishising the act. So the trope of forcing someone into sex until they learn to express their desire becomes common in manga/hentai of all types, not specifically yaoi.
 

Ryzaki009

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I mentioned this in a thread earlier today.

Why can't I just enjoy some anime titties? Why does there always have to be some sort of rape or person below the age of consent involved?

This applies to porn in general actually. Can't watch the majority of sexual content without consent being on shaky ground. Which just makes the whole thing super gross to me.

The bolded is what bothers me. I can deal with the rape. Fine. But nothing annoys me more than when some obviously middle school looking kid is involved. I mean come on. Put that shit in it's on section ffs.
 

inky

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We need a glossary for this thread.

Well, I do. I know all you people know exactly what all of that means.
 

Burbeting

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Yaoi is exploitation of LGBT people in a country, where LGBT rights and general views on sexual minorities are all around in a bad shape.
 

Lois_Lane

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The bolded is what bothers me. I can deal with the rape. Fine. But nothing annoys me more than when some obviously middle school looking kid is involved. I mean come on. Put that shit in it's on section ffs.
I know right!? You come in thinkinh you are going to get ome quality fap material and then boom 13 year old. Then there's the rape. Its gross.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think women/people who read yaoi like to see the male characters vulnerable. Role reversal/shift in power dynamic.

Well, I think there's a legitimate problem in trying to analyze why something happens in a culture when you're not a part of that culture because we just don't have their perspective. An example of that being that I think if you just explained what yaoi is to a Western person, they'd assume it was for men, but yaoi is mostly aimed at girls, and as pointed out below me, gender roles play out completely different in Japan than they are in the West.
 

Azuran

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I think women/people who read yaoi like to see the male characters vulnerable. Role reversal/shift in power dynamic.

This is the true reason.

Gender roles in Japan are pretty ridiculous so it's not surprising why some readers would love to see males get humiliated.
 
Yeah but why rape? And why just Yaoi? Jousen and shoujo don't have this issue and they are directed at women too. Like I am fine with the fetish but I don't want to have to spend hours hunting just to find one manga without it. What's the obsessive allure?

It's homophobia. Pretty simple. Gay people are culturally percieved as "perverts", "no way it can be a legitimate, consensual relationship", and that's all there is to it. Yaoi usually caters to women who have no idea how gay relationships actually work

There's some decent, "realistic" yaoi out there, but yeah, sadly the majority is like that.

And the OP is asking a legitimate question, I don't understand the posts in this thread.
 
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