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[randomengine]

I swear it's stupid small things that Nintendo does that pisses people off. Like it has to bw super simple to tie the saves to a SD card, why do it so ass backwards.

Because the goddamn system doesn't come with an sd card like the 3ds does. It can simply be fixed with a system update.

 

[Lylo]

It seems to me that Nintendo is really scared of console hackers. Looks like they are trying to minimize possible backdoors for exploits after the Wii, Wii U and 3DS being hacked to death.

 

[asagami_]

It seems to me that Nintendo is really scared of console hackers. Looks like they are trying to minimize possible backdoors for exploits after the Wii, Wii U and 3DS being hacked to death.

Actually I have the theory that the OS was originally inspired by the Wii U and/or 3DS, so the recent wave of hacks (especially for 3DS) forced to Nintendo to rework in the OS, so for launch the system is very basic.

Who knows, anyway.

 

[Tall4Life]

It seems to me that Nintendo is really scared of console hackers. Looks like they are trying to minimize possible backdoors for exploits after the Wii, Wii U and 3DS being hacked to death.

This theory doesn't really make sense because the Wii U was the exact same way and it got blown open. I know this because mine was stolen and I had to find this out.

 

[zenspider]

That's a bummer. Just started an account for a co-worker to get started on Zelda. That would be a nice and hopefully easy fix for a system update.

Could save-file hacking be some sort of security precaution? Everything else feels so nimble and open, it's a shame this isn't a feature.

 

[theclaw135]

That's a bummer. Just started an account for a co-worker to get started on Zelda. That would be a nice and hopefully easy fix for a system update.

Could save-file hacking be some sort of security precaution? Everything else feels so nimble and open, it's a shame this isn't a feature.

Hacked save files directly enable piracy on some consoles. Like the original Xbox can read DVD-R without ever opening the case.

 

[Jaymageck]

Remember taking memory cards to your friend's house on ps1?

That was a normal feature 20 years ago.

 

[Tall4Life]

Hacked save files directly enable piracy on some consoles. Like the original Xbox can read DVD-R without ever opening the case.

Other companies like Sony and Microsoft have, you know, just improved their security instead of restricting it altogether like Nintendo has. It's the Republican way of solving problems, really. Instead of improving the system you just remove it, genius!

 

[Zombie James]

Update: A Nintendo representative simply confirmed the Switch situation to Polygon, saying, “At this time, it is not possible to transfer save data from one Nintendo Switch system to another.” The spokesperson provided no further information.

Do they even understand why this is a problem? This is some weak PR. Basically, "yeah, we know."

 

[LOLCats]

what fucking year is it?

im sorry i just dont get it...

 

[theclaw135]

Other companies like Sony and Microsoft have, you know, just improved their security instead of restricting it altogether like Nintendo has. It's the Republican way of solving problems, really. Instead of improving the system you just remove it, genius!

Yeah, Wii Mini took the worst possible route. Barely hackable because you *can't* do anything. No SD slot or network support.

 

[WordsintheWater]

Because the goddamn system doesn't come with an sd card like the 3ds does. It can simply be fixed with a system update.

Are you ever gonna stop defending every stupid decision they make?

 

[TheSpoiler]

I don't see what the problem with this. If your save corrupts it just means you get to experience the beauty of Switch games again.

 

[The Hermit]

Enjoy the early access system...

Spoiler

I wanted one (._.)

 

[metalslimer]

Hahahaha

Oh Nintendo

 

[Occam]

This is inexcusable in this day and age. Same shit as Wii U.

Same shit as the vita, but at least they had cloud saves from day 1.

Nope, Vita has always had content management software allowing you to back up to PC. Games and saves are not tied to hardware.

 

[Maintenance]

Are you ever gonna stop defending every stupid decision they make?

Why even bother, that's never gonna happen.

 

[letmetrythisname]

With all these issues, could they really not have waited until summer at the earliest to launch?

 

[Vigilant Gambit]

Hacked save files directly enable piracy on some consoles. Like the original Xbox can read DVD-R without ever opening the case.

This is true, but there is a way to have save files that can be freely copied from console-to-console without risking editing them: encryption.

 

[specdot]

And those of us that bought it today are loving this Zelda game!

...along with those who bought it on the WiiU.

 

[Delusibeta]

Conspiracy theory: save transfer is not available because modified saves was one of the main ways of jailbreaking previous Nintendo consoles. Same reason why there's no web browser with the Switch.

 

[P90]

Automatic cross-save with microSD and/or the fucking cloud + the option to do it manually if you want to.

They put so much effort in the parenting app/tool (which is amazing but a bonus), I don't understand why KEY features such as backing up save data isn't available at launch.

At least do some PR and say that yes, this is missing but this will be available next month or even "soon".

If it's only because of piracy then it's dumb as hell. Typical measure that backfires to the paying customers and maybe won't even prevent them from having the console pirated.

I agree. The only ameliorating condition is that it is so early in the Switch's life cycle. Not much to worry about transferring at this point.

I swear I could save game progress to my SD card on the 3DS for Persona Q. Perhaps with the Switch it will be game-specific?

 

[Vanille]

It can simply be fixed with a system update.

Good luck with that.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

I'm really glad I held off on this console.

Might wait for the first revision.

 

[Steiner]

How come OP didn't just buy his remote writer a new Switch and Zelda instead of sending the review system back through the mail? Seems like an unnecessary expense regardless of assumptions about how the system handles saves.

It's a long story that involves expectations from Nintendo's PR company that I won't get into. But yes, that's what I should have done.

 

[MrFortyFive]

That's fucking stupid. Inexcusable to launch like that, but they're bound to change it sooner or later.

 

[Trojan]

Was this just uncovered today, on Switch launch day? That's pretty unacceptable.

 

[gaiages]

I don't see a problem.
(Oh no I am defending it!)
If you want to play at a friend's house, well that is why it is portable.
If you do not have the system yet, change that. If your friend does not have it yet...well sorry for them.
Sadly there are alot of people who ruin things for everyone else.
I know people are chomping at the bit for the first exploit to be found in the system but that does not mean that companies have to make it that easy.

???

What if your system gets stolen, or it breaks and you need a new one?

How can you not see the problem in these two scenarios?

 

[Oxn]

Are we anticipating negative sales numbers in April?

 

[darkwing]

wait, so if your Switch is broken and have to replace it, your saves are gone forever?

 

[What The Forest Taught Me]

No cloud saves? Nintendo are stuck in the GameCube generation.

Every time I start feeling like I want this thing I find another reason not to.

At least in the Gamecube generation we could share our saves between systems!

 

[What The Forest Taught Me]

No, the Wii U uses a custom HDD format so you can only ever use them on the one Wii U without reformatting them and they can't be read by a PC


Sony don't have a history of refusing to fix this sort of problem. There's still no way to get saves off of a Wii U.

.

 

[Maintenance]

wait, so if your Switch is broken and have to replace it, your saves are gone forever?

Yep, say goodbye to them. At least you can keep your games now.

¯\_(&#12484_/¯

 

[UrbanRats]

This really feels like a beta launch.
To all who bought this on launch, thanks for beta testing it for us, i guess.

 

[Oxn]

This really feels like a beta launch.
To all who bought this on launch, thanks for beta testing it for us, i guess.

Beta testers are the backbones of this great country.

 

[epmode]

Yep, say goodbye to them. At least you can keep your games now.

¯\_(&#12484_/¯

When it comes to a stolen or broken console, the Switch is essentially the same as the Wii U. Still have to call Nintendo to get your games on a new console.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

This really feels like a beta launch.
To all who bought this on launch, thanks for beta testing it for us, i guess.

Just wait until Holidays when they drop the price by $50 and bundle in 1-2 Switch for free.

 

[Maximus.]

Fix this shit in a future update. 3DS has no issues moving saves over to another system!

 

[What The Forest Taught Me]

It's becoming clear that they kept everyone in the dark about so much of the system information, because all of their decisions are horrendous and will annoy people.

You are correct.

 

[Tall4Life]

Fix this shit in a future update. 3DS has no issues moving saves over to another system!

They. Will. Never. Fix. Shit. This. Is. Nintendo.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Never lose your portable game system or your saves are gone forever.

This makes sense because no one loses their stuff ever amirite Nintendo

 

[darkwing]

They. Will. Never. Fix. Shit. This. Is. Nintendo.

cloud saves are coming

 

[GeorgioCostanzaX]

So random question re saves...that will stay in tact if I download Zelda and get a new SD card later right?

 

[TheSpoiler]

cloud saves are coming

Wait was that actually confirmed?

It's becoming clear that they kept everyone in the dark about so much of the system information, because all of their decisions are horrendous and will annoy people.

"There will surely be a Direct".

That will forever be a real topic and a real thing people thought was gonna happen.

 

[ZeoVGM]

The Switch UI is a rushed-to-launch disappointment.

 

[Maintenance]

When it comes to a stolen or broken console, the Switch is essentially the same as the Wii U. Still have to call Nintendo to get your games on a new console.

Wait, so the account system is still useless? I heard that it would work during today's GiantBomb stream.

 

[KarmaCow]

This make no sense, accounts aren't even locked the console anymore right? Why would they lock saves? This is some monkey paw shit.

 

[notaskwid]

This is inexcusable in this day and age. Same shit as Wii U.


Nope, Vita has always had content management software allowing you to back up to PC. Games and saves are not tied to hardware.

Yeah, I've been corrected. I just never used it outside of cloud saves, and since the gamesaves were deleted from the console when you delete a game and I never used that software, I thought there was no way to manage it, my bad.

 

[VibratingDonkey]

Looking forward to when the Switch gets out of early access in Q4.

 

[Maintenance]

"There will surely be a Direct".

Nintendo's "Wait for //build".