Colin Moriarty is leaving Kinda Funny Games.

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VincentMatts said:
I don't know what he said and I don't care, what I'm saying is if I'm going to say something whether it's a joke or my opinion, I'm not going to apologize for it and neither should he.
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Shut Up. Leave. Educate yourself. Get the fuck off the internet. Do Better. Come back. Then realize how fucking stupid this post is.
 
Monsieur Mercury said:
Is there a good video or podcast or series of videos/podcasts that feature Moriarty going off about politics? I've never followed him or Kinda Funny, but after reading all this, I'm interested in hearing it from his horsey mouth.
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That's a very good question. Google the Gameovergreggy show or Conversation with Colin. They're broken up into topics. Should be what you're looking for.
 
Cool. Kinda Funny is no longer associated with his brand of garbage and he is free to peddle it somewhere else. Probably alongside some other asshole who's glad to have him. Everybody's happy.
 
Keasar said:
Colin remained wrong. Good riddance after seeing much of his content and reading his twitter in previous threads.

Question: That "Don't tread on me"-flag thingie he has as his twitter avatar.
What exactly does it mean? Usually I seem to associate it with some kind of gun rights. Commonly though it has been a good indicator that when someone wears that mark on a flag, t-shirt whatever, they're usually an asshole.
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No step on snek
 
Titanoboa said:
Believe it or not, it doesn't have the literal same meaning it had 300 years ago.

That's what it means, there's a reason characters on It's Always Sunny say "don't tread on me" a lot.

And I mean, look who's rocking it as their avatar. That's clearly what it represents.
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Believe it or not, there are perfectly reasonable non-racist people who like the symbolism that flag evokes regardless of whether or not the teapartiers hijacked it. It's not like its the confederate flag.
 
skynidas said:
Bannon is a very smart person. If you don't agree with his views that's alright, but clearly he is very intelligent.
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Was it that intelligence that produced a Muslim ban that was stayed in no time flat?

Where is the intelligence to prevent his president from earning the lowest approval rating in the fastest possible time? Where is his intelligence to keep his president from not making a fool out of himself on a nearly daily basis and a prime suspect of new improprieties at a record rate?
 
FinaruDensetsu said:
Easy. I'll explain it. Back in the Beyond days Colin and Greg actually seemed passionate about talking about games. For quite some time now it's been obvious that Colin doesn't really give two shits about games anymore. Hearing his garbage commentary on games in that monotonous, I'm-too-cool-for-school voice is what has made KF and PSILY boring for me as a long time fan.

This is not even mentioning all his shitty politics.
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Well, Colin WAS indeed right on that point. His politics are...meh, whatever. Conservatism--in all its forms (fiscal, moral/social, whatever)--is shit. I'm not now, nor will I ever argue against that. But 2016 was dull as dishwater for the most part and I wasn't terribly impressed with most of what even the "packed" fall had to offer. For someone who was still INTO games but basically waiting for games to actually TRY, listening to Colin felt like having someone talk about games who sounded as tired of some of this shit as I was.

But after a break and a return to things this year, Colin actually sounded pretty refreshed and in general impressed by what 2017 has had to offer. Which lines up, 'cause I've been quite impressed myself.

That's what I'm going to miss from KF. Colin's attitude towards non-political stuff lined up with my own, and I'm bummed out and actually curious as to what KFG has to offer me going forward.
 
theangrypirate said:
You guys have no idea what you are talking about.
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You sure about that?

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Keasar said:
Colin remained wrong. Good riddance after seeing much of his content and reading his twitter in previous threads.

Question: That "Don't tread on me"-flag thingie he has as his twitter avatar.
What exactly does it mean? Usually I seem to associate it with some kind of gun rights. Commonly though it has been a good indicator that when someone wears that mark on a flag, t-shirt whatever, they're usually an asshole.
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It was a Revolutionary-era flag that was adopted by Libertopians and then gained wider acceptance when we elected a black President.
 
Bolivar687 said:
Reading the sad and angry comments on the Twitch stream and all the support for Colin on Twitter made me realize just how isolated GAF really is.
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If Trump resigned tomorrow, there'd be people at his office crying their hearts out. That would show how isolated the left really is, right?
 
Titanoboa said:
Have you ever seen his twitter account or heart him speak?

Opposite of a bigot my ass. Dude is best left forgotten.
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I feel like most people defending Colin are not fully aware of all the things he's said on his twitter, or are just totally OK with it. If it's the latter, you can't really argue with them anyway.
 
All this political and social talk doesn't negate how terrible he was at his job either. He was, at times, grossly misinformed and incredibly narcissistic. Any valid criticism toward his arguments was turned into people just "wanting to hate Colin" and other strawman arguments meant to divert attention away from his poor reasoning and argumentation.

That is the stuff that got this ball rolling to begin with.
 
Keasar said:
Colin remained wrong. Good riddance after seeing much of his content and reading his twitter in previous threads.

Question: That "Don't tread on me"-flag thingie he has as his twitter avatar.
What exactly does it mean? Usually I seem to associate it with some kind of gun rights. Commonly though it has been a good indicator that when someone wears that mark on a flag, t-shirt whatever, they're usually an asshole.
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It's a flag from the American Revolutionary War that in more recent times has been used by libertarians and small government (tea party) types. Either way, right wing American politics.

Basically it's a generally good signifier that someone's going to hold some pretty ignorant or hateful views. The same way that someone with an anime avatar throwing out "SJW" probably doesn't have the greatest view of women.
 
Hold on, all of this was because he posted "Ah peace and quiet. A day without a woman".

That's it? I'm guessing no, since there should be more to it.
 
I honestly can't read 56 pages about this but I still want to know...is this because he made some (too easy/obvious) joke on women's day?

edit: there's my answer above lol
 
IdreamofHIME said:
If Trump resigned tomorrow, there'd be people at his office crying their hearts out. That would show how isolated the left really is, right?
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I was astonished when I started going here more frequently in the past 6 months. Gaf off topic is the biggest echo chamber I've ever seen. Don't dare have a different opinion or else...
 
DriftingSpirit said:
All this political and social talk doesn't negate how terrible he was at his job either. He was, at times, grossly misinformed and incredibly narcissistic. Any valid criticism toward his arguments was turned into people just "wanting to hate Colin" and other strawman arguments meant to divert attention away from his poor reasoning and argumentation.

That is the stuff that got this ball rolling to begin with.
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Yep, that too. And whenever criticized, he would highlight the most ridiculous, poorly constructed argument against him, make fun of it, decide he's right then bow out of the conversation. Totally consistent with his "we must argue with people we disagree with" view, right?
 
CheesecakeRecipe said:
You need to eliminate the extreme issues in order for moderate politics to have any sway, and that will never, ever happen. It's a pipe dream that we could collaborate together to structure our society to fit the needs of both sides. One side is actively destroying cultural and scientific progress for their own benefit, and their voter base is tuned out of the bigger picture enough to go along with it as though it's for their own good. You know what people like me want? We want to live our lives. The right doesn't want us to have that, and they have made that painfully clear time and again. They will not compromise, and I'm not about to, either.

Moderate stances are a step away from cowardice, in my opinion. What we're seeing now is the result of cultural advancement being torn at by an angry, bigoted group who are trying to re-establish themselves as though their ideals have any form of legitimacy. It's happened plenty of times in history, and they eventually lost what ground they thought they had to stand on. Colin got a free pass for most of his tenure, and now it's caught up to him like it always does.

I do really wish that things could go smoothly, though. I hate that I have to feel any sort of bitterness towards other people. I disagree with Colin's views, but I didn't see this event being what led to him getting dropped from his network. I'm sure he will be fine in the long run! That still won't mean I will look past his terrible views.
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There's a few things I disagree with in your post - I'm not sure how helpful it is to talk of the "right" as a monolithic group and I think I'd probably need to explore some of the specifics with you to really have a proper discussion about it. It could be that I'm coming at it from a UK perspective rather than an American one (from the outside, US politics does seem a lot more volatile and I don't know how I'd feel if I was a US citizen - probably completely disillusioned).

I'm pretty sure that my moderate approach isn't an expression of cowardice, though - I've been through hell and back to be able to live my life the way I feel is natural to me. I'm just perhaps more of a pragmatist than I used to be.

Thanks for the discussion though. I'm sure he'll be fine too! Having said that, I hope we're not here having a similar discussion in a year's time when he ends up speaking out in favour of Stephen Miller or being photographed at Mar-a-Lago playing golf with Trump.
 
Keasar said:
Colin remained wrong. Good riddance after seeing much of his content and reading his twitter in previous threads.

Question: That "Don't tread on me"-flag thingie he has as his twitter avatar.
What exactly does it mean? Usually I seem to associate it with some kind of gun rights. Commonly though it has been a good indicator that when someone wears that mark on a flag, t-shirt whatever, they're usually an asshole.
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It's an anti-federalist flag.
 
Paper Sparrow said:
Must be nice.
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WrenchNinja said:
Do you live on a different planet? How do you think him being President doesn't affect you?
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That's not what I said. Read the whole sentence. How you feel about him or anybody's opinion doesn't affect me. I'm talking about speaking freely about how you feel not anything to do about the presidency affecting me.

I don't do politics.

If somebody at work asks me so hey what do you think about trump. I'll say I guess he's president now. Hey did you beat your first thunderjaw yet??? Lol. I just appreciate how he spoke about games.....how he felt. If he didn't like a game he would just say that games shit, I hate it. He could care less what anybody thought or if it was offensive. I don't care if it's a game I think is the best in the world. He says what he feels and believes it. That's it.
 
camaropilot said:
I'm sad that Colin is leaving Kinda Funny and I'll probably not watch Kinda Funny content much anymore. I am socially liberal but fiscally conservative and have been my whole life. I thought Colin was a great grounding presence in the games industry and brought a different perspective to the echo chamber that we even see today in this thread. I believe this will be a big loss overall for KF and I'll definitely follow Colin in his next venture.
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This always amuses me because of this

wandering said:
https://twitter.com/crushingbort/status/463132110006784000

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...but carry on, just a sidenote.

That said, I don't get the comment about "echo chamber", GAF is quite diverse is terms of videogames opinions, tastes, etc...

Unless you mean "political echo chamber"...
 
Falchion said:
Who would want to leave gaming to go into politics? Games are so much fun.
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Yeah but the bar to spew BS is so much lower in politics.
If you say incorrect stuffs in gaming you'll always have some person come nagging you.
In politics? You can just throw them on the pile of "virtue signaling intolerant left needing safespaces" and be done with it!
So much simpler!
 
I'm actually really really upset. He was the Vegeta with Greg being the Goku. Like the dynamic duo. Ratchet and Clank. Jake and Daxter. Shit man.

But seriously he's the main reason I listen to their podcasts daily during my commutes. Sigh! I know I still have EZ Allies. But things will be very very different for me now.
 
DriftingSpirit said:
All this political and social talk doesn't negate how terrible he was at his job either. He was, at times, grossly misinformed and incredibly narcissistic. Any valid criticism toward his arguments was turned into people just "wanting to hate Colin" and other strawman arguments meant to divert attention away from his poor reasoning and argumentation.

That is the stuff that got this ball rolling to begin with.
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Willfully ignorant at times, and proud of it too. Not a good look for someone who claims to be knowledgeable about the industry.
 
Fuchsdh said:
It's a flag from the American Revolutionary War that in more recent times has been used by libertarians and small government (tea party) types. Either way, right wing American politics.

Basically it's a generally good signifier that someone's going to hold some pretty ignorant or hateful views. The same way that someone with an anime avatar throwing out "SJW" probably doesn't have the greatest view of women.
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Well that's a huge leap. One of my good friends has that as a tattoo he got when he was in college. Hes not any of those things
 
lowhighkang_LHK said:
I've always disliked Colin. Don't agree with his politics, never felt like he wanted to truly cover games anymore to begin with (looks like my assertion is correct)

But as a financially sound and fair person that I'd like to think that I am, KindofFunny better be paying him residuals. The company wouldn't exist if it weren't for him and he still should be entitled to a portion of the funds the company gets. It's only fair.
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It depends largely on whether he still owns part of the company or not. If they bought him out and the onus is on them from here forward for a company that's still very new and is going to be radically different than if he were there even just two years from now it wouldn't be fair for him to be collecting residuals from that.
 
Mael said:
Yeah but the bar to spew BS is so much lower in politics.
If you say incorrect stuffs in gaming you'll always have some person come nagging you.
In politics? You can just throw them on the pile of "virtue signaling intolerant left needing safespaces" and be done with it!
So much simpler!
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I mean, part of this thread, CWR threads and the KF thread, and his twitter defence force shows that you don't need to go into politics to do that, you just need the right audience!

Titanoboa said:
"Actually, it's an ancient Hindu symbol. Who's ignorant now?"
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Titanoboa said:
Yes, and these things tattooed up my arm are just Norse runes. I'm a big history buff.


Your friend made a mistake.
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These posts are too savage dude.
 
Some Nobody said:
Well, Colin WAS indeed right on that point. His politics are...meh, whatever. Conservatism--in all its forms (fiscal, moral/social, whatever)--is shit. I'm not now, nor will I ever argue against that. But 2016 was dull as dishwater for the most part and I wasn't terribly impressed with most of what even the "packed" fall had to offer. For someone who was still INTO games but basically waiting for games to actually TRY, listening to Colin felt like having someone talk about games who sounded as tired of some of this shit as I was.

But after a break and a return to things this year, Colin actually sounded pretty refreshed and in general impressed by what 2017 has had to offer. Which lines up, 'cause I've been quite impressed myself.

That's what I'm going to miss from KF. Colin's attitude towards non-political stuff lined up with my own, and I'm bummed out and actually curious as to what KFG has to offer me going forward.
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There are many voices in the industry who disliked the quality of games in 2016 and are hyped up about the quality of the early showings so far in 2017.

Hopefully you found Colin's commentary more insightful and interesting beyond just liking and disliking the same games you did to justify liking him so much...

Until he revealed who he really was (due to not having to fear the loss of his IGN job anymore), I listened to every single episode of Beyond. Despite being a fan, I'll never say that they were some source of some great insight into the industry, even with regard to Playstation, outside of having a channel of communication with Shu Yoshida. Look at what Unlocked has been doing with the interviews and you can see that Greg and Colin never even got to that point.
 
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