No? His stock never changes aside from the location thing.
NieR: Automata Spoiler Thread
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Mr. Smiley
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RubberLuffy
Banned
If you can get him to stop near the resistance camp he'll have almost all the rarest stuff for sale
She... definitely doesn't seem to hate machines
Maybe this is how we can break the cycle of endless war between androids and machines.
Google her name + Nier
https://youtu.be/_yfA94EpeqM
Saw this. It's a nice little video on the theming of multiple playthroughs in the game. Doesn't talk about much more than we already have but it bundles a lot of key stuff together.
Saw this. It's a nice little video on the theming of multiple playthroughs in the game. Doesn't talk about much more than we already have but it bundles a lot of key stuff together.
I wonder what happened to all the non-corrupted YorHa units like 4S. I saw some YorHa units in the desert that were fine (probably due to Jackass' drug), and 4S is obviously still kicking around just fine, so I would imagine that there are still existing YorHa units aside form 2B, 9S, and A2 in the world.
YoRHa No.2 Type B
Banned
No. I mean why the protagonists of Yoko Taro games have white hair?
Nier, Kaine, Zero, 2B, 9S & A2
You know, I never noticed that before. I guess that makes Caim the sole exception, then.
Can't speak for the other games, but I felt like with NieR it was intentional that the protagonist are all white-coded, with fair features and bleach white hair and Grimoire Weiss the White Book, Kaine in light grey clothing, and Emil and his giant white skeleton had, while their enemies are black-coded monsters led by a Shadowlord and the calamitous Black Book Grimoire Noir.
OniBarubary
Banned
Jesus Christ, I just beat the Route E credits fight and I started bawling when I realized what was happening.
I was...not prepared to sacrifice other people's save data in order to save the lives of a bunch of imaginary characters.
So I had to say yes and offer my own.
I was...not prepared to sacrifice other people's save data in order to save the lives of a bunch of imaginary characters.
So I had to say yes and offer my own.
How would you feel if i tell you the choir singing in the background was the development team of the game?
OniBarubary
Banned
You go to hell you monster
He's telling the truth! D:
For Nier 1, its meant as a colour contrasting and expectation delivery of what you do vs what you think your doing. Its all in service of the plot and themes.
For Automata, I take it a similar way. Its less in your face though, but it blends into the thematic ideas behind the blindfolds and the colour of character's eyes. For 9s and 2b is about being blind imo. For A2 imo its about being so jaded that its almost "bleached" in a way.
T_T
Demoskinos
Member
So I'm going to copy/paste something I wrote on a discord channel I'm part of so I don't have to re-write all of this...
Okay, so like.... I've been thinking a lot about Nier in general the last few days. And even with all the crazy and amazing stuff in the game I think the greatest part of Nier might just be nothing to do with any of the actual characters or story.
Route E is I think at least a pretty emotional ride. I didn't know what to expect especially since it cut right to the credits which left me thinking wait...where is the ending?
As you get dumped into the credits shooter game it seems neat but I didn't really until the last day or so really formulate why I think its so great.
It gets deliberately programmed at one point to be actually impossible to beat and eventually you get offered help. Which when you finally figure out that you have to accept to continue basically makes you invincible but its the core mechanic around that and the presentation of all of it that is so amazing.
First off the song that is playing.
"Weight of the World"
Which lyrically (might?) be from 2B's view point but I'm not sure.(edited)
Either way Its from the view point of someone who feels burdened and overwhelmed.
It was recorded in 3 languages which you get one version of for each of the A, B,C/D endings you beat.
In the route E ending though it turns into a medley of all the languages coming together to sing the song.
On top of that each time you die you see messages of encouragement not to give up from other players left for you.
Combining all of this with the fact that you learn that for you to be able to see the final cut-scene and ending where its insinuated that all 3 androids had their data recovered and will be okay.
Someone else has to sacrifice their save and let the game delete it.
Its this concept and presentation of unity and sacrifice that I think is really special.
While a silly video game I think that the concepts that these moments push forward of unity and sacrifice for others is sort of a small and insignificant glimpse into an idealized world where we could all be united.
And it is silly and just a video game but I think its the sentiment that I really ended up appreciating and being affected by.
Like giving up your save data in the scheme of things is by far like not a huge deal or sacrifice when lets face it PSN automatically backs shit up to the cloud if you have PS+ but again the sentiment is the thing that I really latched onto there.
Its a really special moment that I think is like a moment of levity and positive energy in a game that is otherwise largely deeply sad.
And I think the general sentiment I took away from the game's philosophy is that while the world might be cruel and meaningless doesn't mean that your life is meaningless.
I think Nier Automata is a really special game and this ending is just like one of many reasons why I think its so fucking rad.
Okay, so like.... I've been thinking a lot about Nier in general the last few days. And even with all the crazy and amazing stuff in the game I think the greatest part of Nier might just be nothing to do with any of the actual characters or story.
Route E is I think at least a pretty emotional ride. I didn't know what to expect especially since it cut right to the credits which left me thinking wait...where is the ending?
As you get dumped into the credits shooter game it seems neat but I didn't really until the last day or so really formulate why I think its so great.
It gets deliberately programmed at one point to be actually impossible to beat and eventually you get offered help. Which when you finally figure out that you have to accept to continue basically makes you invincible but its the core mechanic around that and the presentation of all of it that is so amazing.
First off the song that is playing.
"Weight of the World"
Which lyrically (might?) be from 2B's view point but I'm not sure.(edited)
Either way Its from the view point of someone who feels burdened and overwhelmed.
It was recorded in 3 languages which you get one version of for each of the A, B,C/D endings you beat.
In the route E ending though it turns into a medley of all the languages coming together to sing the song.
On top of that each time you die you see messages of encouragement not to give up from other players left for you.
Combining all of this with the fact that you learn that for you to be able to see the final cut-scene and ending where its insinuated that all 3 androids had their data recovered and will be okay.
Someone else has to sacrifice their save and let the game delete it.
Its this concept and presentation of unity and sacrifice that I think is really special.
While a silly video game I think that the concepts that these moments push forward of unity and sacrifice for others is sort of a small and insignificant glimpse into an idealized world where we could all be united.
And it is silly and just a video game but I think its the sentiment that I really ended up appreciating and being affected by.
Like giving up your save data in the scheme of things is by far like not a huge deal or sacrifice when lets face it PSN automatically backs shit up to the cloud if you have PS+ but again the sentiment is the thing that I really latched onto there.
Its a really special moment that I think is like a moment of levity and positive energy in a game that is otherwise largely deeply sad.
And I think the general sentiment I took away from the game's philosophy is that while the world might be cruel and meaningless doesn't mean that your life is meaningless.
I think Nier Automata is a really special game and this ending is just like one of many reasons why I think its so fucking rad.
RubberLuffy
Banned
I keep checking the twitch page for the game just to see if anyone is close or at ending E, cuz I love watching their reactions. I've only caught like 2 people so far, but it was very good.
English VA of 2B and 9S are now streaming route B on Twitch!
https://www.twitch.tv/kylemccarley
They read through all non-voiced dialogs too. So cool.
https://www.twitch.tv/kylemccarley
They read through all non-voiced dialogs too. So cool.
OniBarubary
Banned
I watched someone get to the end and when it asked him if it was okay to delete his save 6 times he was like "lol yeah sure okay, whatever" and then when the game restarted and his save was gone he was PISSED and people in his chat were lighting him up like "They asked you 6 times why did you think they were joking?"
Yoko Taro should make the Japanese VAs of 2B and 9S stream a playthrough of the game, make them banter in character while playing, and make those interactions on stream canon in the story.
BuckRobotron
Member
Nice to see them so into it. They own these roles.
show me your skeleton
Member
i like that the bunker is one big circle, a never ending loop, forever repeating.
Pascal's village was infected with the same logic virus that attacked YoRHa.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
Doesn't 9S' segment take place two weeks after his fall? I assumed A2's scenes took place before 9S'.
Well, what part of them don't you get?
They're a visual representation of the machine network.
Wesley-Sigma
Member
I can't stop laughing at the porn talk earlier.
Oh my bad. So they are split to represent the in fighting in the machines? Did the the splint cause the different between certain groups of robots?
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
I think they're just twins because twins are a bit of a motif in Taro's games.
Then they end up infighting at the end over whether to destroy the androids or keep them alive to evolve themselves through conflict.
Basically, the split in A2's fight occurs because the Machine Consciousness evolves to the point where it starts to war with itself, because everything in this game is in a cyclical, endless conflict with one another.
Ah so just random, nothing in particular struck this match.
I thought it was a set of parallel events but you're probably right. Nier is all about the protagonists messing things up so my mind went to that suspicion first.
darkwing-buck
Member
Guys, I can't get the Drakengard soundtrack out of my head. It's like a demented dream with high fantasy fused with industrial. I just wish the game itself was actually any good.
The Drakengard 2 mix is probably the only good thing to come out of that shitshow.
That and Caim showing up to kill Death.
show me your skeleton
Member
also nothing gets done in this game working alone so it makes sense there's two of them.
Pretty good stream. Loved that Kyle (9S) mentioned this line was one of the weirdest from the game that he didn't really like/understand.
Easily one of the best.
DrunkShogun
Member
Just upgraded the iron pipe to 4 and read the weapon story. Best papa still confirmed. Will always rock the iron pipe now.
I thought Papa Nier was non-canon.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Game makes you forget Emil is a walking, sentient WMD until the secret final boss fight with him where its "Oh yeah, he could blow up the world by himself and fought off the Aliens by himself"
BuckRobotron
Member
This is why I always have the iron pipe equipped (at least as part of the four you can spec as 2B/A2), but then it is also conveniently a strong weapon.
They're both canon in a way, at least according to a joke Taro made in an interview about timeloops
Fun Fact: According to Emil's Lords of Vermillion card (Yes, even there we can find new, exclusive lore) there exists a total number of 85,943,258 Emils on this planet
DrunkShogun
Member
I usually mix the weapon selection but spears for 9s, combat bracers for 2b and A2 is whatever but is usually swords small or big. Iron pipe seems like it needs a good crit chip setup but got nothing noteworthy.
BuckRobotron
Member
I mix everything else up for fun/variety, not aiming for optimal or best. And while spears are easy to go with for 9S I actually went with the Phoenix Sword mostly on last playthrough, just because. I tend to favor the big heavy-hitting but slow weapons, and they were really slow in original Nier but fun to use to helicopter through crowds lol.
RubberLuffy
Banned
There's a level 4 weapon story that mentions a brother caring for his sickly sister and there's a related weapon that mentions a father caring for his sickly daughter.
DreamedLint
Member
Does anyone know if the game reprimands you for loading the cloud save after deleting your save for ending E? I might want to come back to it for trophies or if they ever decide to open those secret doors.
RubberLuffy
Banned
Nah, I did it yesterday and it just went back to my pre-deletion save.
I think it requires overwriting the system save, so it just goes back to pre-deletion menus. At least that's what I did