Yeah, that's why I don't buy the equivocating with Hillary here. This was done in such haste, seems messy and more like a PR move for Trump to show that he won't let people go over HIS red line. I guess we'll see what happens now... I hate the situation in Syria and think something should have been done, but I have NO confidence in Trump and his admin to competently do anything about it.
CNBC: US military has launched more than 50 missiles aimed at Syria: NBC News
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Yeah, that's why I don't buy the equivocating with Hillary here. This was done in such haste, seems messy and more like a PR move for Trump to show that he won't let people go over HIS red line. I guess we'll see what happens now... I hate the situation in Syria and think something should have been done, but I have NO confidence in Trump and his admin to competently do anything about it.
therealist
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There are unbelievable mental gymnastics used to defend Obama/Clinton but criticize Trump
M0nochromatic
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He's stll an idiot who went about it the wrong way, but retaliating against a chemical attack and destroying the infrastructure used to facilitate the attack is something I'd want any of my leaders to do.
Trump is right about this one thing.
People need to realize this and stop rationalizing the idea of not getting involved, basically.
Which he never actually backed up.
If Russia was made aware of this, I'm off the ledge. If they really were not... Fuck.
NullPointer
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Deadly Cyclone
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Did he have 100% proof the weapons came from there?
Details? How many missiles were used, their specific target and goals, time of the operation, who was informed and consulted?
Basic information?
These missiles are worth billions? But yeah
Bam Bam Baklava
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Well damn.
Rran
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Going by previous rumors, I wonder if that's how Trump's military advisers coaxed him into taking action.
The scary part is how Trump reacts to the fallout from this. He doesn't like to lose, and he seems to like doubling down on things. Sounds to me like a potential easy recipe for disaster and escalation.
Anyone who thinks this ends here is fucking fool and I have no faith in Trump to actually think things through and take briefings.
He responds only to Fox news and what he sees on TV
balladofwindfishes
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Obama was a calm, level headed, intelligent leader and Trump is a failed businessman and a reality TV star.
It's not mental gymnastics to trust the judgment and temperament of one over the other.
ThoseDeafMutes
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1.6 million USD per unit. More like 120 million in munitions.
funkystudent
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Kinda waiting for reports that they targeted civilians and rebels so this shitshow can be complete
Netherscourge
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Big day for Trump:
1. Busts a Democratic Filibuster against his SCOTUS nominee.
2. Gets a bizarre coincidental Green Light from Hillary Clinton to attack Assad's air bases.
3. Attacks Assad's airbases shortly thereafter.
Fuck is going on? It's like crazy pills and shit.
1. Busts a Democratic Filibuster against his SCOTUS nominee.
2. Gets a bizarre coincidental Green Light from Hillary Clinton to attack Assad's air bases.
3. Attacks Assad's airbases shortly thereafter.
Fuck is going on? It's like crazy pills and shit.
Shadow_Lord
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As an inhabitant of the city that was going to get burned to the ground, I was super fucking happy when I heard that the army was bombed as without it I could've been dead for 6 years now.
Pai Pai Master
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Military strikes can and should be complicated projects that require the most foolproof evidence in order to carry out. After that botched Yemen raid I have no faith that this was the case.
It's too early to tell what the result of this will be, but Trump has already given precedent for firing off the hip and getting the wrong people killed. Why people are giving him the benefit of the doubt here is beyond me.
It's too early to tell what the result of this will be, but Trump has already given precedent for firing off the hip and getting the wrong people killed. Why people are giving him the benefit of the doubt here is beyond me.
We won't really know the ramifications for this until the dust settles a bit.
If there are few casualties, little to no reaction from Russia, and it results in Assad being ousted, then it could end up looking favorable for him. He'll be praised for thinking quickly and taking decisive action - and Trump will bring it up constantly.
On the other hand, if any number of things end up being fucked and it turns out this hasty decision was made in poor judgement, then yea....
Considering his standing, he may have made a safe decision, but I don't think we'll really know for a few days.
If there are few casualties, little to no reaction from Russia, and it results in Assad being ousted, then it could end up looking favorable for him. He'll be praised for thinking quickly and taking decisive action - and Trump will bring it up constantly.
On the other hand, if any number of things end up being fucked and it turns out this hasty decision was made in poor judgement, then yea....
Considering his standing, he may have made a safe decision, but I don't think we'll really know for a few days.
Impeccable
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We can all be happy knowing that all possible airfields in Syria have been taken care of so no more chemical attacks can be launched ever again.
Unless you launch over a thousand of them, no, they aren't.
benjipwns
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So the redline was crossed is what you're saying.
Nomadic Sparks
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Stay safe Military GAF
Russia basically wanted US to stay out of it, likely because they may have troops there, while it is a single airfield, this is sending a message that Russia ain't gonna like.
Crazyorloco
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So....without congressional approval. What the hell.
I expect retaliation soon.
I expect retaliation soon.
King Tubby
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This would have been a mistake even if HIllary had done it. What the fuck is even the gameplan? Regime change or just "don't do that again?" Who the fuck trusts Trump not to fuck this up?
rocketskates
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Whether or not intelligence shows that they flew from this base or not, it still eliminates 1/7 airbases that they could have launched from.
Now go destroy the others I'd say.
Golden_Pigeon
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If Clinton would have done the same thing, maybe a lot of the people would have been cheering right now.
I am 100 % against Trump and american imperialism, and the iraqi war.
But i believe that in that case, it's better than to just look the Syrian people being slaughtered.
What if I hate on it no matter which President or hypothetical President would have done it.
jellies_two
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So wait.
* The Russians were consulted.
* But Congress was not.
?
* The Russians were consulted.
* But Congress was not.
?
MetroidPrimeRib
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No. This was never, has never, will never be ok. But with someone as unpredictable, egotistic and unintelligent as Trump that suddenly gets multiplied by a lot.
Typically the Pentagon does a briefing in the next day or two releasing more details.
You know I literally just had this same thought. Shit.
Nunes stepped aside though. Even on his best day bad shit happens for him.
I can't play this straw man argument anymore. If Syrians were bombed in Syria with chemical weapons then I would say we have a pretty good clue who did it.
smokeandmirrors
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THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND NSC WERENT INFORMED
WHAT THE FUCK
WHAT THE FUCK
You really want this mother fucker to lead the charge on this? Is everything fixed now or is this just the beginning? Are we going to start taking in refugees or are we going to continue with the morally abhorrent cognitive dissonance of leaving them to deal with the horrors of their home while we, probably, begin dropping our own bombs on their heads.
Bomb the shit out of them. You've got to get their families. Yeah, king islamophobe is here to liberate the oppressed population of Syria.
Yeah but Syria is bad tho
NYR
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$100 million is 0.002% of the US annual budget. The money was already spent when they bought the missles.
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This is what Obama would have done if Russia hadn't stepped in to ask Assad to destroy his chemical weapons.
Of course Trump was going to call of a strike, it's the perfect opportunity to tell people "Look! You don't cross my red line, unlike weak Obama.".
Russia probably doesn't care, it hasn't been clear how much they still support Assad, especially since Trump was elected, since they could probably agree with the US over who to replace Assad with.
Of course Trump was going to call of a strike, it's the perfect opportunity to tell people "Look! You don't cross my red line, unlike weak Obama.".
Russia probably doesn't care, it hasn't been clear how much they still support Assad, especially since Trump was elected, since they could probably agree with the US over who to replace Assad with.
Thanks.
Pai Pai Master
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ISIS has been responsible for chemical attacks in Syria as well.
chillybright
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The world police on duty!
BlackGhost
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CNN now also saying the Russians were informed ahead of time
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