New Hellboy Movie Coming
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a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
It's a reboot.
Also
It's not the movies that are the problem, it's a boring, lame IP filled with boring, lame characters and a boring, lame story.
And fans, like those of the Cornetto Trilogy, that never shut up about how "awesome and funny and amazing" these films are.
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a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
Hahaha worth the shit talk for the passionate responses.
Y'all do you, I really don't care that much and hope you guys get a movie that does justice to the content.
ElRenoRaven
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HomerSimpson-Man
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My excitement and hope dashed in one fell swoop coming into this thread.
So this is supposed to be a R-rated reboot without Ron Perlman and Del Toro....now I'm just sad for getting my hopes up for Hellboy 3.
So this is supposed to be a R-rated reboot without Ron Perlman and Del Toro....now I'm just sad for getting my hopes up for Hellboy 3.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Strange you left out Amazing Spider Man and Schumacher Batman which are the reasons why the newer reboots exist. There is no reason to reboot Hellboy. The first two movies are cult classics even if they did undergross and rebooting it means you're alienating the fans of the first two movies who were helping them grow in popularity with word of mouth with no guarantee it'll reach a wider audience. I like Marshall but this comes across as Hollywood exploiting another property to make money off of cause comic book movies are more popular now and don't want the baggage of a third movie years later than something that is a worthwhile endevour.
I don't really care about the movies, but you are wrong, good sir. This will not stand.
More_Badass
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If this is an actual, or at least more, faithful adaptation, in the vein of Mignola's actual stories, more supernatural weirdness and moody Gothic atmosphere, is that "Hollywood exploiting another property"? It's like the clearest reason to do a reboot since like Batman Begins, especially with Mignola involved
What exactly is the downside here?
Killer Queen
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Maintenance
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Harbour? Nice, I'm in.
As someone who is a huge Mignola / Hellboy fan, this is basically what I came in here to say. I like Del Toro and love Perlman, but the chance of getting a more faithful adaptation makes me WAY more hyped than Hellboy 3 ever could.
Curt Baboon
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While Hellboy is filled with short stand-alone stories that take place at any given point in the character's life, it's a series that REALLY pays off to read in order. I would start with Seed of Destruction and work your way from there.
TheRedSnifit
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You start at Issue 1 and progress in order.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
The beginning. Easiest way to follow is with the Library Editions that Dark Horse released. I highly recommend its sister series, BPRD, too. Look up Multiversity's reading order if you wanna dive into that as well and go from there. It's an amazing universe and so focused thanks to Mignola's guidance on everything. The movies just don't do it justice.
Curt Baboon
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Same here. I keep trying to think of something from the comics that would even warrant giving the film an R rating and got nothing.
Start at the beginning but know that it will get even better every arc and the short one-off stories are not to be passed up.
Here's the reading order of all 12 trade paperbacks.
http://hellboy.wikia.com/wiki/TPB#Hellboy
Then the story continues in Hellboy in Hell which only has 2 trades.
There are more trades but those are all outside the "main story".
Killer Queen
Banned
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
A reboot doesn't annoy me.
The director and main actor do.
I think both are fine, but on this project? What?
Monocle
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OK, why? You've gotta expand on this or it's just a shitty hot take that can be dismissed out of hand based on the obvious quality of the movies. We're not talking about Hellboy the franchise, we're talking about the Hellboy movies, which establish a distinctive tone and world and characters, and then stay true to them.
They display Del Toro's signature attention to detail in every scene and they're strongly influenced by his offbeat sensibility. He gives us a world where the sinister and fantastic and grotesque are ever so thinly papered over by the mundane. It's good stuff. So what's the deal exactly?
Monocle
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Waaaat, correct this immediately.
The Driver
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Nothing.
Literally. Guy is the king of development hell and having overly ambitious budget desires for the kind of box office those movies bring in lol.
That's not even getting into most of his English movies not being as great as his Spanish ones or his last great movie being over a decade old.
I still appreciate his eye for creature design and sets but he's risky to bet $100 million dollar projects on.
Bust is the box office:
If it made enough money, they'd do more. It didn't. Just like Dredd. It sucks, but this is a business and Del Toro just doesn't make films at that budget people want to see.
Pretty much. I'm always cheering for Del Toro's projects. But between Hellboy 3, Mountains of Madness, Pacific Rim 2, Justice League Dark and inSANE, he either just has the worst luck, or he's habitually doing something wrong. Probably a combination. His box office track record isn't helping either.
Or maybe he's just too public about his projects.
Yautja_Warrior
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Well he didn't give us Hellboy fans Hellboy 3, even when Ron has been very vocal about wanting to do another for the fans........
The Driver
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Yeah, he also was apart of the new Beauty and the Beast before dropping out and had (?) that Frankenstein project in the works too. I bet you're right that probably a big part of it is how upfront he is about what he's working on but it makes him look scatterbrained.
ReplacementPelican
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Aren't they both really up for doing it as well? This is an insane reboot to do.No Del Toro or Perlman?
But, Perlman is Hellboy.
Imperial Bishop
Banned
If he wasn't cursed and audiences had better tastes, we would have had both Hellboy 3 and At the Mountains of Madness by now.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I guess that's why Del Toro stated that Hellboy III was a no go.
they might have to change quite a bit of backstory to fit this into a movie.
script might not have much in common with the chronological order of the books.
but it was the same with hellboy and hellboy golden army.
lets hope its the success, the material deserves, and we also get some B.P.R.D. movies out of it.
IdreamofHIME
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I welcome this.
The 1st two were visual treats, but absolutely boring.
The 1st two were visual treats, but absolutely boring.
deadscreensky
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I love the Golden Army, but I also love the comics so I'm totally up for a different, potentially more faithful adaptation. Hellboy is definitely something that can work with a lower budget. (Though obviously you can't do stuff like where BPRD goes.)
broncobuster
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I came to whine about no Perlman but damn is David Harbour a solid replacement.