PewDiePie calls someone a "fucking n****r" during PUBG livestream

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I mean yeah, he's an idiot, but using that word doesn't automatically mean that you find black people lesser and/or inferior. It's not such a big deal in Scandinavia. It's tactless, but it's just his shitty humor.

it wasn't humor though at all. It was PewdiePie being annoyed and sayuing "Fucking N****r" and then being like well I said it, lets joke about it. and then three minutes later saying it again.
 
There is no excuse for threat of violence, even if in character.
There is no excuse for racial slurs, even if in "heated gaming moments"
Fuck this excuses, what's wrong with people.
 
Maximilian should definitely be thrown off YT for using language like that.

for using the word accidentally, without any hateful intent, immediately apologizing for it and making a specific video apologizing for it more?

yea, no, completely different mate
 
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The fuck is Boogie on about here, LMAO. Calling someone a "fucking nigger" is personal politics? Alright then.

Yes of all the things that scare me about 2017 YouTube content creators not being able to monetize videos of developers because they've reflexively used the n word is number one with a bullet!
 
I mean yeah, he's an idiot, but using that word doesn't automatically mean that you find black people lesser and/or inferior. It's not such a big deal in Scandinavia. It's tactless, but it's just his shitty humor.

So let me see if I get this straight:

You felt it necessary to enter a 41 page thread about a racial epithet to give us the hot take of "Guys he's just not American and loves shitty humor"?

Am I getting this right? This is what you decided?
 
Boogie:
It is also disappointing that perhaps he and others do not fully understand the weight those kind of words carry and the damage they can do.
What a pathetic defence for an adult. I'm growing severely tired of the social weight these people carry and the juvenile opinions they put out.
 
I mean yeah, he's an idiot, but using that word doesn't automatically mean that you find black people lesser and/or inferior. It's not such a big deal in Scandinavia. It's tactless, but it's just his shitty humor.

Well refusing to own up to it and apologize for it certainly does. Especially when its from a position of telling black people how to feel about him using it.
 
I mean yeah, he's an idiot, but using that word doesn't automatically mean that you find black people lesser and/or inferior. It's not such a big deal in Scandinavia. It's tactless, but it's just his shitty humor.

Pewdiepie laughed it off, he then said *Sorry I forget I was streaming" implying he says it more casually with his friends, and then he said "I tried to think of the worst word I could think of for that guy" Dude didn't oops say it once fuckup he says it often and knows how powerful that word is.
 
Anyone else notice the hand-wavers' staking their concerns that this is "too right vs left" or Campo Santo is sending DMCAs based on "personal politics?" They probably don't even realize by saying that they are, in effect, stating that the right wants to be grossly racist and the left doesn't think that's cool. It is actually that out in the open. And more than that, both sides of that line should be respected.
 
Well it's time for youtube, twitch and all these places to take responsibility for what their creators use their services for. Close channels, delete videos, withdraw support.

Take a god damned stand you cowards.

So much this.

They should regulate these channels much harder. It's the platform providers that enable this shit. That's the real problem.
 
Like, seriously. Just for once. Any Youtuber. Just condemn racism with no 'catches' or '..but'. Just condem racism without defending racism at the same time. Take a goddamn side, preferably the one that doesn't ignore the humanity of non white persons.
 
I can't wait for all the content creators to start scapegoating and strawmanning the fuck out of this by shifting focus onto the Firewatch DMCA and drill into everyone the ramifications this has on youtubers and whether game devs have the right to do this blah blah blah
 
It's really depressing to see how far Pewdiepie have fallen. I remember watching him years ago when his channel was just focusing on horror games and his goofy reactions. Then little by little, as he became more popular, the content started to change into some kind of meme-fest for teenagers into what it is today. I just realized the other day when a friend linked me a video of his that "oh right, he's still doing stuff and for some reason he's extremely popular". And like many other Youtubers he have turned into some alt-right spokesperson that mask their racist and shitty agenda behind some flimsy "free speech"-bullshit.
 
I really liked Boogie before these tweets and the discovery of his shit attitude on Gaf I had no idea about.

I don't have much of a way to describe him other than a fat miserable sack of shit at this point.
 
I mean yeah, he's an idiot, but using that word doesn't automatically mean that you find black people lesser and/or inferior. It's not such a big deal in Scandinavia. It's tactless, but it's just his shitty humor.

That's wrong and you know it. And yes, it does automatically mean that you are calling others inferior. Your point of origin doesn't make it less hateful.
 
I mean yeah, he's an idiot, but using that word doesn't automatically mean that you find black people lesser and/or inferior. It's not such a big deal in Scandinavia. It's tactless, but it's just his shitty humor.

I don't understand how this keeps getting stated. He in a moment of anger thought up an derogatory term towards black people.

Why do people keep bringing up Maximilian?

Because they're fuckwits who think saying the word accidentally and saying the word with intentional malice are the same thing and we should be mad for both.
 
Like, seriously. Just for once. Any Youtuber. Just condemn racism with no 'catches' or '..but'. Just condem racism without defending racism at the same time. Take a goddamn side, preferably the one that doesn't ignore the humanity of non white persons.

That would require integrity
 
Like, seriously. Just for once. Any Youtuber. Just condemn racism with no 'catches' or '..but'. Just condem racism without defending racism at the same time. Take a goddamn side, preferably the one that doesn't ignore the humanity of non white persons.

Youtubers have been doing it all day, you're just not following the ones that have.
 
I mean yeah, he's an idiot, but using that word doesn't automatically mean that you find black people lesser and/or inferior. It's not such a big deal in Scandinavia. It's tactless, but it's just his shitty humor.

This has nothing to do with "shitty humor".

Plus his bullshit laughing response about it shortly afterwards, talking about how nobody can touch him, shows that he knows goddamn well that he was in the wrong.
 
for using the word accidentally, without any hateful intent, immediately apologizing for it and making a specific video apologizing for it more?

yea, no, completely different mate

He tried to cover it up poorly and when that failed he did a better job of PR. There's really not all that much of a difference when it comes down to it, I don't think it's cool in either situation and if I get the boot for saying that so be it.
 
Ugh, how the fuck is this 41 pages long?

Some idiot said something racist and offensive, should people be angry? Yes. Should he be demonitised? Sure - but ultimately, that's for YouTube to action upon.

I don't see what more there is to discuss, this shit needs to be shut down.
 
Here's the thing...

If you don't denounce racists then that means you are comfortable with other people being racist. Therefore:

  • It means you are enabling them to be racist again, and again, and again.
  • It means you are ok with the fact that people who are the targets of said racism have to continually endure the mental/physical scars and suffering of racism.
  • It means you prefer the targets of said racist behaviour feel uncomfortable instead of challenging those who are racist and making them feel uncomfortable... God forbid you question the racists and make them feel uncomfortable.

I'm sorry to say, but that makes you racist. There is no "both sides" argument to any of this. This is a scenario where it is impossible to be neutral.
 
I can't wait for all the content creators to start scapegoating and strawmanning the fuck out of this by shifting focus onto the Firewatch DMCA and drill into everyone the ramifications this has on youtubers and whether game devs have the right to do this blah blah blah
Totally what's going to happen no doubt. I feel like I could already develop an ordered list of videos too.

Goddamnit YouTube
 
He tried to cover it up poorly and when that failed he did a better job of PR. There's really not all that much of a difference when it comes down to it, I don't think it's cool in either situation and if I get the boot for saying that so be it.

bullshit and you know it

pack off, mate, stop acting like this is in any way similar
 
Ugh, how the fuck is this 41 pages long?

Some idiot said something racist and offensive, should people be angry? Yes. Should he be demonitised? Sure - but ultimately, that's for YouTube to action upon.

I don't see what more there is to discuss, this shit needs to be shut down.

I mean no one forced you to post.
 
If people wanna know what real racial humor/satire is like, watch Blazing Saddles, not fucking PewDiePie.

Written by a black man and a Jew so trigger warning to you Nazis out there.
 
Ugh, how the fuck is this 41 pages long?

Some idiot said something racist and offensive, should people be angry? Yes. Should he be demonitised? Sure - but ultimately, that's for YouTube to action upon.

I don't see what more there is to discuss, this shit needs to be shut down.

Are you a mod?
 
Ugh, how the fuck is this 41 pages long?

Some idiot said something racist and offensive, should people be angry? Yes. Should he be demonitised? Sure - but ultimately, that's for YouTube to action upon.

I don't see what more there is to discuss, this shit needs to be shut down.

Trust me, if this story doesn't get traction youtube won't. do. shit.
 
I mean yeah, he's an idiot, but using that word doesn't automatically mean that you find black people lesser and/or inferior. It's not such a big deal in Scandinavia. It's tactless, but it's just his shitty humor.
It's not like he was stupidly repeating a song lyric or quoting a Chris Rock routine. He used it as an insult - as in he knows it places him in a higher position of the person he was mad at.

He doesn't get to use the "sheltered Scandinavian guy" routine when he has been the biggest internet celebrity in the world for the better part of a decade.
 
PDP has been speaking English for a loooong fucking time.

We all have, I'm saying it's not such a big deal here. It's not nothing, he used it pretty horribly, but we wouldn't start a witch hunt over something like this. Plus, having a word you can't say is kind of weird.

Bottom line, I agree, he shouldn't have said it. It was tactless, it wasn't funny. And that's all there is to it from someone around here.
 
"Why is everyone bringing race into this?

Once again, the left showing they are the real racists"

-some major YouTuber, probably
 
Ugh, how the fuck is this 41 pages long?

Some idiot said something racist and offensive, should people be angry? Yes. Should he be demonitised? Sure - but ultimately, that's for YouTube to action upon.

I don't see what more there is to discuss, this shit needs to be shut down.

When you have people in this very forum thinking "Meh, there's nothing wrong with saying nigger" then yes, there's shit to discuss.
 
Like, seriously. Just for once. Any Youtuber. Just condemn racism with no 'catches' or '..but'. Just condem racism without defending racism at the same time. Take a goddamn side, preferably the one that doesn't ignore the humanity of non white persons.

These top youtubers have to stick together. PDP is the most subbed person on the platform. If everyone calls him out and holds him accountable, then surely whatever consequences befall him is going to set a precedent and create a trickle down effect.

These are the same youtubers who are pissed at WSJ for kicking off the Ad-pocalypse that involved an issue that was sparked by PDP's antics

They know if they don't stand by PDP or at least remain complicit, that it has the means to affect their bottom line and their livelihood.
The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.
 
Ugh, how the fuck is this 41 pages long?

Some idiot said something racist and offensive, should people be angry? Yes. Should he be demonitised? Sure - but ultimately, that's for YouTube to action upon.

I don't see what more there is to discuss, this shit needs to be shut down.
YouTube would happily do nothing if there wasn't a massive reaction. Don't expect them to do the right thing on their own. They have a history of not acting when they should, or going after the wrong people.
 
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