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[CRAIG667]

There are some crazy-ass fanboi comments in this thread, like little kids in the school yard.

 

[Koala Driving a Ferrari]

There are some crazy-ass fanboi comments in this thread, like little kids in the school yard.

Pretty much. I think the thread genuinely triggered a few system-centric gamers who never intend to ever own an Xbox and are afraid of a toy being taken from their pram.

For me, it was a fun rumour to ponder in a slow news week . I have to admit though, the evil side of me wants this to actually happen just to read the dummies being spat online.

 

[Louis Cyphre]

Your grasp of the word 'qualifier' seems to be as poor as that of 'exclusive'. You've taken a word, distorted its meaning, misused it and inserted into your statement as some kind of rebuttal.


Your earlier statement:


You keep repeating this and you keep not providing a source where Ninja Theory said this, in spite of being asked multiple times.

Though, by this point, it doesn't really matter. You're steam-rolling ahead - either accidentally or deliberately - and keep trying to make some argument that amounts to "Sony too" - which isn't an argument, it's a deflection of some point being made about some other company. Given the topic of the thread we're in, I can't really see why that goal, or the methods used to reach it, especially matter. I can hazard a guess though.

Thanks for your time, I shan't take up any more of it.

The fact that you can't seem to grasp the relevance of console exclusivity and why both Sony and Microsoft bother with them means there really is no starting point to begin with. You'd rather argue semantics than to follow the conversation that was taking place which was Sony's wish to acquire ip's or lock them down. Which is why I laughed at this notion about Microsoft trying to deny gamers access as though they are somehow the worst offender.

Moving on, this topic is more of a wish list as the only real possibility I see happening is Microsoft going after PUBG much in the same way they did with Minecraft. Buying EA or Valve has certainly gotten some people excited about the possibilities.

 

[VectorVictor]

Question--why isn't anyone talking about Ubisoft being up for potential buyout? They've been fending off a hostile takeover for some time--perhaps shareholders choose the lesser of evils and sell to Microsoft instead of Vevendi (which will try another hostile takeover...it's a question of when, and not if).

The impact isn't as significant as buying EA, but there are some quality former third party franchises that would turn heads suddenly going exclusive on Microsoft.

Vivendi is facing a lot of problems, they will try sure, but each day it seems very difficult for them, they are making mistakes not only in france but also in the rest of Europe, soon or after EU Commission will come after them.


https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-m...ollore-for-alleged-market-abuse-idUKKBN1631UM
http://www.repubblica.it/economia/f...i_di_perdite_su_telecom_e_mediaset-181336497/

Ahhh, thanks. Wasn't aware Vevendi is facing the problems it is currently. Still, that doesn't mean Ubisoft isn't exactly on solid financial ground, or that Vevendi won't come back and try again.

I'm just saying I don't think it's just EA or PU or Valve that should be part of this discussion. Ubi is a realistic acquisition target...possibly even more so than EA. And I don't know if the Japanese have laws about foreign entities buying companies, but Bandai Namco, Sega, or Capcom would be good, realistic pickups as well and would all add games and genres that aren't already covered extensively by Microsoft.

 

[VectorVictor]

Pretty much. I think the thread genuinely triggered a few system-centric gamers who never intend to ever own an Xbox and are afraid of a toy being taken from their pram.

For me, it was a fun rumour to ponder in a slow news week . I have to admit though, the evil side of me wants this to actually happen just to read the dummies being spat online.

You know...to be honest, some of those fanbois do have somewhat of a legitimate concern/fear...they're just not expressing it very well.

How would things play out if Microsoft picked up EA, and the most prolific sports and FPS games were all first party overnight. There's a metric s***ton of casual players out there that pick up games like FIFA, Madden, on a yearly basis and maybe pick up a second or third title for when they get bored. They're not superfans like us, but they help inflate the console sale numbers, which helps drive business decisions based on risk (e.g. new IPs, experimental/indie games).

Take linchpins like Madden, FIFA, or Battlefield away from the masses on the PS4, and you're going to see a massive (and likely sustained) sales spike in favor of Microsoft and an equal or greater sustained depression for Sony whenever these games release. It's an equalizer like no other. That, overnight, kicks the legs out from the install base numbers and its gets harder justifying some of the more niche titles and exclusives that Sony gets that Microsoft doesn't currently. Plus, Microsoft suddenly becomes relevant in countries that they weren't even selling in before or that Sony completely dominated.

I'm not saying Microsoft buying EA is likely (shareholders would have reservations about short-term success and sales numbers if EA is suddenly a single platform developer), but if Microsoft is in this for long-term success and not just short-term game and catalog gap-filling, it's a very real, potent option they have.

 

[Son_of_Zardoz]

It is absolutely stupid to think that MS would buy EA and suddenly turn everything exclusive. They would lose a ton of money just from losing the sales on other systems and the backlash would be like nothing anybody has ever seen before. It's not even worth discussing because it is so far removed from reality.

If they somehow did pull off a deal for EA I could see games launching on Gamepass first by maybe a month (sports titles) and maybe longer for other titles. Mix that in with some new IPs being CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE to Xbox and that would be the furthest I could see them taking it. Even with that it doesn't make much sense unless they really start cranking out new IPs that are exclusive.

No surprise that this has turned into another "Blame MS for everything you hate about gaming" thread. Weeeee!

 

[Nintendo Switch]

no need to buy.
-create a reference hardware with one or more OEM (like google makes with phones, or Valve itself does with SteamVR and steam machines).
-Let Lenovo, Dell, Acer jump on board
-redefine PC consumer gaming with this hybrid console/pc and revive the gaming desktop market, a billion machines market target still there despite mobile.
-get the best of the 2 worlds with all guys aboard(developers, publishers, hardware producers) and wall all around a win11 gaming kernel
-MS will become the only leader of hybrid pc machines, like now Nintendo is the only leader of hybrid console.

As long MS will continue with Nadella vision of things they will be alone, they will find in Valve or Ea or Ubisoft only rivals with their own walled gardens.
if they make them coexhist in their bigger walled garden everybody is happy and will join.

Why would you want that? The One X is a leap beyond any pc you could get for $500, and you don't have to worry about drivers and other bullshit. Games are geared for it so they can achieve 4k graphics that outperform PCs that cost twice as much. Giving devs a ton of different specs to customize for just creates extra work for them.

One super powerful configuration akin to the Xbox One X mass produced and coded to take advantage of is the best option for both consumers and developers.

I want Microsoft to invest in TSMC and build a cutting edge Vapor Cooled Next Xbox using a 3nm Zen 3+ 3Ghz 3x3 core CPU, 30GBs of 3D Stacked HBM3, a 3TB SSHD and 30 TFs of GPU Horsepower. That's going to keep pace with the best of the best that pc has to offer, leapfrog the PS5 and and will stay viable for atleast a decade.

 

[alken]

Why would you want that? The One X is a leap beyond any pc you could get for $500, and you don't have to worry about drivers and other bullshit. Games are geared for it so they can achieve 4k graphics that outperform PCs that cost twice as much. Giving devs a ton of different specs to customize for just creates extra work for them.

One super powerful configuration akin to the Xbox One X mass produced and coded to take advantage of is the best option for both consumers and developers.

I want Microsoft to invest in TSMC and build a cutting edge Vapor Cooled Next Xbox using a 3nm Zen 3+ 3Ghz 3x3 core CPU, 30GBs of 3D Stacked HBM3, a 3TB SSHD and 30 TFs of GPU Horsepower. That's going to keep pace with the best of the best that pc has to offer, leapfrog the PS5 and and will stay viable for atleast a decade.

Because despite making money they never won a gen, and PS4 showed how this is important in consumers eyes.
it's a market they probably will never "dominate".
If ever the case they make another misstep with next xbox and PS5 increase the gap in sales an hybrid pc/console is a nice escape for them.
that worked for Nintendo in the end.
Also they are really committed on "game as a service" stuff, for them hardware is only a cost.
they can adapt OEM policy to consoles.
for reference hardware if you think as now it is with console hardware iterations they just can evolve on that with a low specs and and high specs reference, then is up to OEMs how much they want to push, as you say Dell could ask 500$ for basic, Lenovo could ask 550$ with different hdd or different ram, also this forcing both Dell and Lenovo to support the minimum specs reference.
Valve with steam machines gave an hint to them, but valve problem was OS...

Ahhh, thanks. Wasn't aware Vevendi is facing the problems it is currently. Still, that doesn't mean Ubisoft isn't exactly on solid financial ground, or that Vevendi won't come back and try again.

I'm just saying I don't think it's just EA or PU or Valve that should be part of this discussion. Ubi is a realistic acquisition target...possibly even more so than EA. And I don't know if the Japanese have laws about foreign entities buying companies, but Bandai Namco, Sega, or Capcom would be good, realistic pickups as well and would all add games and genres that aren't already covered extensively by Microsoft.

I agree with you.
My point is they don't really need to buy, but make a fair proposal to ubisoft , valve and ea to let their walled gardens live togheter under MS walled garden, very difficult but not impossible.
for this they need a hybrid pc/console system.
they can also approach this in many steps,
for example next xbox could have a "twin" ,a pc released by 1 or 2 selected OEM with a win11 with a performance kernel for gaming.

 

[12Dannu123]

Why is everybody assuming that Microsoft would turn everything exclusive. It really shows how outdated people here are. They don't need to make games exclusive, they can make Game Pass exclusive to Windows 10 and Xbox and maybe put it on Switch and they'll be fine.

 

[Nikana]

Why is everybody assuming that Microsoft would turn everything exclusive. It really shows how outdated people here are. They don't need to make games exclusive, they can make Game Pass exclusive to Windows 10 and Xbox and maybe put it on Switch and they'll be fine.

Says people are out dated, then makes a comment that makes little sense with no explanation and says they should put game pass on switch??

 

[12Dannu123]

Says people are out dated, then makes a comment that makes little sense with no explanation and says they should put game pass on switch??

There's nothing wrong with putting Game Pass on Switch. If Nintendo allows them do. Microsoft's business model going forward is putting games into Game Pass and put it on multiple platforms. Of course they will continue to use Xbox Consoles.

 

[VAL0R]

Why is everybody assuming that Microsoft would turn everything exclusive. It really shows how outdated people here are. They don't need to make games exclusive, they can make Game Pass exclusive to Windows 10 and Xbox and maybe put it on Switch and they'll be fine.

Why would Nintendo or Sony allow an MS Gamepass on their machines and undermine their game sales? Sony didn't even want EA Access, if I recall correctly.

 

[vicious696]

probably already posted but the most logical move would be similar to what Fox did with Disney and sell a portion of the company. In that scenario EA becomes EA Sports and keeps all the sports titles but sells the rest of their studios: Bioware, Dice, Respawn, Criterion, etc to Xbox. Work out a deal where Respawn can continue to make their Star Wars game so that it can show up on Playstation but after it ships the Star Wars rights moves to another 3rd party publisher.

Dust settles Xbox now has Anthem, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Battlefield, Titanfall and merge Forza Horizon/Need For Speed into one IP under Criterion.

 

[Louis Cyphre]

Why is everybody assuming that Microsoft would turn everything exclusive. It really shows how outdated people here are. They don't need to make games exclusive, they can make Game Pass exclusive to Windows 10 and Xbox and maybe put it on Switch and they'll be fine.

First they need to make the games for Switch because Game Pass is not a streaming service, which I am sure Nintendo is not opposed to.

 

[Louis Cyphre]

ooops, dp.

 

[Nintendo Switch]

no need to buy.
-create a reference hardware with one or more OEM (like google makes with phones, or Valve itself does with SteamVR and steam machines).
-Let Lenovo, Dell, Acer jump on board
-redefine PC consumer gaming with this hybrid console/pc and revive the gaming desktop market, a billion machines market target still there despite mobile.
-get the best of the 2 worlds with all guys aboard(developers, publishers, hardware producers) and wall all around a win11 gaming kernel
-MS will become the only leader of hybrid pc machines, like now Nintendo is the only leader of hybrid console.

As long MS will continue with Nadella vision of things they will be alone, they will find in Valve or Ea or Ubisoft only rivals with their own walled gardens.
if they make them coexhist in their bigger walled garden everybody is happy and will join.

Then buy yourself a steambox or any pc and side load the Xbox store onto it and you get the same thing.

Enjoy paying $800 for a cheaply made HP or Dell pc that the $500 Xbox One X runs circles around performance wise.

Us console gamers appreciate the massive bang for the buck and other advantages we get with consoles. The One X gives us superior performance to a $1000 PC and we get it without the headaches of bugs, crashes and driver errors. The day that MS abandons the traditional console formula and outsources it to Dell and HP is the day I stop buying MS gaming hardware and switch to Sony only like I did until the Xbox One X came out.

 

[Fuz]

The One X gives us superior performance to a $1000 PC

LOLNOPE

You're delusional.

 

[GoldenEye98]

LOLNOPE

You're delusional.

I wouldn't say "superior" perf to a $1000 PC but the general perf-per-dollar value is definitely better with One X. Especially when considering current GPU and memory prices.

 

[alken]

Enjoy paying $800 for a cheaply made HP or Dell pc that the $500 Xbox One X runs circles around performance wise.

Sorry maybe i didn't explained well my concept.
it's not about branding a pc.
This is not the concept of hybrid pc/console I was speaking about.

I want to be more clear so you and other will understand better my point of view.

the scenario is this:
1)
MS is shifting Xbox to a "service".
This is a fact.
Gamepass concept is the base of their new vision.
2)
Hardware wise they are no more capable to innovate, the struggle with Kinectic and its "death" is a fact.
Only they can do is adding some ram or cpu on what sony offers, and still losing on selling point.
3)
Valve walled garden and EA, Ubisoft ect walled gardens on pc side are making them not relevant anymore, and their online shop was and is a disaster.
4)
Only advantage point on pc market is still their OS, but linux will catch them soon or after is only a matter of time.
Valve "failed" with SteamOs but their linux support is strong.

In my opnion better to be the leader of a new market than the "forever second" of a saturated market.
On console market if not Sony then is Nintendo.
On pc market if not Valve then is EA.

Yes ,on a money point of view who cares? MS is making a lot of money, Nadella is a great CEO no one can deny, but they are not able to follow the others in the long run.
example VR, their AR/VR solution is still a proof of concept while Valve is working with HTC, LG and others, and Google is warking with Samsung Huawei and others.
they MUST do the same or they will be alone, and being alone in this period is not a nice thing.

Still we will see what of this rumour is true or not very soon.
But the nice thing is that they are moving to find support with others, they are trying to open a bit .

so to come to my idea:
"PCX"
is the next generation of Xbox.
MS will not produce the hardware.
OEMs will produce the hardware.
OS will be a Win11 with a kernel modified to have gaming performance.
MS will give the reference hardware specs.
More target prices at launch.(casual/family, pro gamers)
Each 2 year the reference hardware could be improved following the CPUs and GPUs evolution.
OEM could be selected ones or open to all of them.
PCX can be used as a normal desktop pc (dual boot can be enabled)
Main store will be MS one(first party and selected exclusives) , but other stores can make their own app and sell their games (optmized xbox ones will share a royalty to MS)

PCX also could be the "twin" of a XBOX2, no need to make the switching in one generation in reality.
We had many examples in the past of these concepts, third party hardware producers in console market were a thing and could return.

 

[Nintendo Switch]

Ok, I get what you are saying and I can see the appeal of a device that can all Xbox games and all your pc games but I would only want that in
a handheld Xboy with an amd apu and a tv out instead of yet another competitor to the many boxes you can stick under your tv.

I see no advantage to outsourcing to Dell/HP but I would love to see them partnering with Valve, EA, Blizzard and Ubi to offer one unified library that links to, shows and lets you play all games you own on Steam, Xbox Live, Origin, Uplay and Battle.net

 

[alken]

Ok, I get what you are saying and I can see the appeal of a device that can all Xbox games and all your pc games but I would only want that in
a handheld Xboy with an amd apu and a tv out instead of yet another competitor to the many boxes you can stick under your tv.

I see no advantage to outsourcing to Dell/HP but I would love to see them partnering with Valve, EA, Blizzard and Ubi to offer one unified library that links to, shows and lets you play all games you own on Steam, Xbox Live, Origin, Uplay and Battle.net

Yes I like also the "XBoy" concept.
But also in that situation it would be way better for them to follow Google Android.
Give one reference XBoy hardware to a selected OEM and let others make their own version of the hardware.
Mobile gaming is a mess right now.
"it's dangerous to go alone"

 

[Raoh]

Another option.

Buy as much as possible, drop out of console race. Become the top third party game publisher with its own EA Access/Xbox Game Pass like service across platforms

 

[RuhRo]

If it gets another robust single player Portal or Half Life made, I'm all in.

 

[notacat]

Doubt Newell would sell Valve, as it's printing money constantly somehow.

That being said, if MS bought Valve, then announced steam on Xbox, and Half Life 3, Sony would curl up and die of starvation.

 

[Lort]

Another option.

Buy as much as possible, drop out of console race. Become the top third party game publisher with its own EA Access/Xbox Game Pass like service across platforms

Why would they drop out? Better to expand xbox as it would be a great move to leverage exclusives, MS makes windows hardware and competes against others no reason they wouldnt do the same with Xbox games.

 

[alken]

Why would they drop out? Better to expand xbox as it would be a great move to leverage exclusives, MS makes windows hardware and competes against others no reason they wouldnt do the same with Xbox games.

FIFA will not allow its license to be platform exclusive for example.
Disney will not allow its licenses to be platform exclusives too.
From a economic point of view licensed games are not going to be console exclusives per se.
yes there are a lot fo dormient IPs to buy from EA, Valve etc.etc., MS itself have a lot of them, but that means they already should have reinforced their first party and second party dev teams.
-Fable
-Perfect Dark
-Mechwarrior
we have no insider news about these games, and these should be first party games that would be enourmous exclusives ready to be Killer Applications for this gen and next.
let's wait june maybe they announce next R.C. Pro AM with online and track editor ala minecraft (if ever they do it you heard it first here)

 

[michaelius]

Why is everybody assuming that Microsoft would turn everything exclusive. It really shows how outdated people here are. They don't need to make games exclusive, they can make Game Pass exclusive to Windows 10 and Xbox and maybe put it on Switch and they'll be fine.

It's Microsoft way - instead of funding new content they buy something existing and lock it from everyone else. In x360 they were even stealing pc releases just to push their new shiny x360.

 

[iconmaster]

How much does Microsoft (not the gaming division, the corporate leadership) really care about gaming? Answer that, and you'll have some idea how much MS is willing to spend on gaming acquisitions.

I doubt it's "EA levels" of care.

 

[Nikana]

How much does Microsoft (not the gaming division, the corporate leadership) really care about gaming? Answer that, and you'll have some idea how much MS is willing to spend on gaming acquisitions.

I doubt it's "EA levels" of care.

Well considering the current CEO promoted Spencer again, and they just released the Xbox one X, and are making new services like game pass, and are rumored to be rebooting Fable... I'd say they care.

 

[astroglide]

Will all they talk about taking your games everywhere and being able to access them on any device I do hope they come out with an x/steamboy unit. Iv wanted that for years. I can see steam or EA being bought. Both would be a huge win. EA would be big for them from a console perspective and Steam would give them total dominance of the pc market. Either is a win

 

[Son_of_Zardoz]

It's Microsoft way - instead of funding new content they buy something existing and lock it from everyone else. In x360 they were even stealing pc releases just to push their new shiny x360.

Just like they locked away Minecraft.

It's okay, we can get the doll so that you can show us where MS hurt you.

 

[VectorVictor]

Just like they locked away Minecraft.

It's okay, we can get the doll so that you can show us where MS hurt you.

Yeah, the FUD and fanboi flaming against Microsoft on this board has gone ludicrous speed, and quickly going plaid.

And there is something to be said about Microsoft still putting out FIFA, Madden, et al for other consoles (IIRC, the FIFA contract stipulates that it has to be on all consoles--it's why there was a Switch version this year). But that doesn't mean the XBO version can't be put on Gamepass or have extensive content exclusive to the Microsoft console.

But I could easily see games like Dragon Age, Battlefield, Need for Speed (imagine a NFS game done by the team behind Forza/Horizon?), Anthem, Star Wars KOTOR 3, etc. becoming XBO exclusive. Oh, and Mass Effect getting a proper fourth entry and becoming a Microsoft exclusive again. Make all that XBO/PC exclusive with a purchase of EA, and Microsoft is on better footing than Sony in terms of exclusives.

Also, a hidden bonus if Microsoft does buy EA--I would bet money that Microsoft would put Madden football back on the PC.

 

[astroglide]

I really hope they release a steamboy/ portable Xbox. Switch obviously shows people like that

 

[rokkerkory]

I really hope they release a steamboy/ portable Xbox. Switch obviously shows people like that

I hope not... obviously they know h/w and can ship a great handheld I am sure just by looking at their surface line up. But when it comes to games, Nintendo games sell the Switch and MS almost zero handheld gaming experience. I'd rather them focus on the stuff they are good at which is console gaming.

 

[Blam]

I hope not... obviously they know h/w and can ship a great handheld I am sure just by looking at their surface line up. But when it comes to games, Nintendo games sell the Switch and MS almost zero handheld gaming experience. I'd rather them focus on the stuff they are good at which is console gaming.

Oh yeah they'd definitely be able to ship a handheld that surpasses the switch. But not a lot of the games and really probably a handful would be fun on a handheld system.

 

[alken]

Just like they locked away Minecraft.

It's okay, we can get the doll so that you can show us where MS hurt you.

Minecraft is a bit fading now, ok nice sell numbers, but no real improvements in last years aside Azure and 4k and that "educational" stuff.
I hope instead we will not get some Scalebound treatment.
that would be a disaster.
and before buying IPs from others I want to see MS first pushing some of their dormient IP.
ok rc pro am i said before was only a hope (but i really would love a reboot of the IP with online and track editor), but Mechwarrior really deserves a AAA treatment.

 

[Son_of_Zardoz]

Yeah, I think MechAssault has a good chance at getting some love before long and I look forward to it. Would love to see a Crimson Skies sequel, even if it's a smaller studio/game. Game Pass would be a great place to try some interesting things out.

 

[Nintendo Switch]

I hope not... obviously they know h/w and can ship a great handheld I am sure just by looking at their surface line up. But when it comes to games, Nintendo games sell the Switch and MS almost zero handheld gaming experience. I'd rather them focus on the stuff they are good at which is console gaming.

There is no reason that a MS handheld wouldn't be able to play all games that the Xbox One can run. All of their software runs on an OS, nothing is coded to metal. A 5nm AMD APU could easily match the Xbox Ones performance.

You won't need to rebuy the games, everything you own on Xbox store will be there for you ready to play on the go. Make it a smartphone with slide out controls and the thing would sell gangbusters.

 

[VectorVictor]

Sorry maybe i didn't explained well my concept.
it's not about branding a pc.
This is not the concept of hybrid pc/console I was speaking about.

I want to be more clear so you and other will understand better my point of view.

the scenario is this:
1)
MS is shifting Xbox to a "service".
This is a fact.
Gamepass concept is the base of their new vision.
2)
Hardware wise they are no more capable to innovate, the struggle with Kinectic and its "death" is a fact.
Only they can do is adding some ram or cpu on what sony offers, and still losing on selling point.
3)
Valve walled garden and EA, Ubisoft ect walled gardens on pc side are making them not relevant anymore, and their online shop was and is a disaster.
4)
Only advantage point on pc market is still their OS, but linux will catch them soon or after is only a matter of time.
Valve "failed" with SteamOs but their linux support is strong.

In my opnion better to be the leader of a new market than the "forever second" of a saturated market.
On console market if not Sony then is Nintendo.
On pc market if not Valve then is EA.

Yes ,on a money point of view who cares? MS is making a lot of money, Nadella is a great CEO no one can deny, but they are not able to follow the others in the long run.
example VR, their AR/VR solution is still a proof of concept while Valve is working with HTC, LG and others, and Google is warking with Samsung Huawei and others.
they MUST do the same or they will be alone, and being alone in this period is not a nice thing.

Still we will see what of this rumour is true or not very soon.
But the nice thing is that they are moving to find support with others, they are trying to open a bit .

so to come to my idea:
"PCX"
is the next generation of Xbox.
MS will not produce the hardware.
OEMs will produce the hardware.
OS will be a Win11 with a kernel modified to have gaming performance.
MS will give the reference hardware specs.
More target prices at launch.(casual/family, pro gamers)
Each 2 year the reference hardware could be improved following the CPUs and GPUs evolution.
OEM could be selected ones or open to all of them.
PCX can be used as a normal desktop pc (dual boot can be enabled)
Main store will be MS one(first party and selected exclusives) , but other stores can make their own app and sell their games (optmized xbox ones will share a royalty to MS)

PCX also could be the "twin" of a XBOX2, no need to make the switching in one generation in reality.
We had many examples in the past of these concepts, third party hardware producers in console market were a thing and could return.

So...this essentially boils down to a super-powered 3DO system that can play PC games, right?

 

[alken]

So...this essentially boils down to a super-powered 3DO system that can play PC games, right?

I think that could fit well the american vision of videogame market countering the japanese vision (nintendo sony)
3do->trip hawkins->Ea
history returns sometime
but also Apple with Bandai...(and and that beautiful ps3 boomerang anchestor)
OK all failures (sorry apple fans).
But now is a different story, MS shifting to "game as service" is really a puzzle we can see pieces come year after year.
but to do that they need pc OEMs, really I hope they are not going to make a 3do or Pippin again.
and they need also steam, gog humble bundle ectect
PCX hybrid could complete the puzzle.
It's just a hope, out of this rumour maybe the only thing that will happen will be PUBG buyout.

 

[rokkerkory]

There is no reason that a MS handheld wouldn't be able to play all games that the Xbox One can run. All of their software runs on an OS, nothing is coded to metal. A 5nm AMD APU could easily match the Xbox Ones performance.

You won't need to rebuy the games, everything you own on Xbox store will be there for you ready to play on the go. Make it a smartphone with slide out controls and the thing would sell gangbusters.

That maybe true but that doesn't make games meant for consoles good as a portable game.

 

[astroglide]

Oh yeah they'd definitely be able to ship a handheld that surpasses the switch. But not a lot of the games and really probably a handful would be fun on a handheld system.

But what if it was just a portable Xbox. Players all the games you buy on x1 or 2 or 360 and puts them in portable form and you can play them in 1080 p with a 6 to 8 hour battery life. It's not met to have exclusive games. Literally just a portable xbox

 

[12Dannu123]

There is no reason that a MS handheld wouldn't be able to play all games that the Xbox One can run. All of their software runs on an OS, nothing is coded to metal. A 5nm AMD APU could easily match the Xbox Ones performance.

You won't need to rebuy the games, everything you own on Xbox store will be there for you ready to play on the go. Make it a smartphone with slide out controls and the thing would sell gangbusters.

I do wonder if PS4 games are coded to metal. If so then Sony's ecosystem is screwed.

 

[Blam]

But what if it was just a portable Xbox. Players all the games you buy on x1 or 2 or 360 and puts them in portable form and you can play them in 1080 p with a 6 to 8 hour battery life. It's not met to have exclusive games. Literally just a portable xbox

No I don't mean it to have exclusive games, like I really don't see me playing most xbox games on a portable device.

 

[Lort]

No I don't mean it to have exclusive games, like I really don't see me playing most xbox games on a portable device.

So games like Doom, Skyrim , Rocket League, Fifa, Wolf and 90% of games released? Is that what you mean?

 

[Blam]

So games like Doom, Skyrim , Rocket League, Fifa, Wolf and 90% of games released? Is that what you mean?

Yes that's what I mean. I don't really see myself playing those games on a portable Xbox.

 

[Nintendo Switch]

So games like Doom, Skyrim , Rocket League, Fifa, Wolf and 90% of games released? Is that what you mean?

I play almost all those games on the Switch and love them, except Wolf which I have preordered. I'm assuming that was the point you were making.

Yes an Xboy that plays every Xbox One and BC 360 game that you own will sell quite well.

 

[astroglide]

I play almost all those games on the Switch and love them, except Wolf which I have preordered. I'm assuming that was the point you were making.

Yes an Xboy that plays every Xbox One and BC 360 game that you own will sell quite well.

I would just like the option to. I would use it. I'm always on the go and I do play games at home. I would like the option to have my progress achievments and everything else go with me. Right now I'm playing skyrim and I'd love to play it on the go. Same with games like sunset overdrive and gears. This is what Nintendo does well and is one of the best parts of the switch. I think ms and Sony will make something due to its sucess

 

[Leocarian]

I'd like too see MS buy Electronic Arts to be honest.

 

[davepoobond]

If Microsoft buys EA they are going multi platform with Xbox exclusive performance/deals/etc. half of the value of EA is they have exclusive rights for multiple platforms of major licenses

Similar to Minecraft's business model but exponentially larger