Papa
Banned
Probably shouldn't link to doxxing here.
Off-site Community Discussion (Reset, etc.) -- READ OP. Stay civil. Don't make it personal. Keep it in here.
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Probably shouldn't link to doxxing here.
AfricanKing
Banned
The hypocrisy here is amazing
It is only public as a compilation of doxxing material posted to a self described shitlord board, so yes. It exists to mock and harass people on a personal level. There are several warnings in this thread about this behavior. There is one in the title and the OP. I have already personally warned you about this behavior. Posting peoples pictures to laugh at is the definition of making it personal. If you want to attack people personally, doxx them and shit on images of them trawled from their social media accounts, then do it somewhere else. GAF will not tolerate that behavior.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Elaborate, please.
Adry9
Member
Holy shit these people are insane. It's actually kind of scary.
Liberty4all
Banned
No worries, they aren't even remotely very close to representing how normal people think and more importantly how normal people will vote.
In a way it's better for society as a whole that the extremist maniacs (of which the Resetera community is certainly a part) have taken over the democrat party. They are a minority of their party and an even smaller minority of the population and will certainly continue to lose badly in elections with their Batshit insane policies.
Abolish ICE! Don't let white people speak on any policies at all! As a matter of fact shame them! Segregate communities and give certain groups special privileges! More taxes for everyone to pay reparations and to pay for illegal aliens! Screw your capitalist Patriarchy, Americanism sucks! Viva Revolution! Socialism now!
Yeah this will win elections. For the right.
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JordanN
Banned
Celestial Human flew too close to the sun.
To play Devil's advocate, I recognize hatred of LGBT to be bigoted behavior, even if my personal convictions is not supporting/opposing their lifestyle, but just leaving people alone in their own home.
But this is the same forum that openly calls all Republicans as Nazis, and supports physically assaulting them. So it's a double standard to question why being against gay is wrong, but assaulting Trump supporters is ok.
There's also a follow up post that might blow people's minds.
Celestial Human is right in that the world is still split on LGBT issues. The same countries that are being flooded with migrants also happen to come from cultures that outright kill LGBT. Will the liberals ever call these people fleeing these countries "pieces of shit" and tell them to turn around and go back?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/dr...r-is-anti-lgbt-too.57403/page-7#post-10721815
To play Devil's advocate, I recognize hatred of LGBT to be bigoted behavior, even if my personal convictions is not supporting/opposing their lifestyle, but just leaving people alone in their own home.
But this is the same forum that openly calls all Republicans as Nazis, and supports physically assaulting them. So it's a double standard to question why being against gay is wrong, but assaulting Trump supporters is ok.
There's also a follow up post that might blow people's minds.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/dr...r-is-anti-lgbt-too.57403/page-7#post-10721852
Celestial Human is right in that the world is still split on LGBT issues. The same countries that are being flooded with migrants also happen to come from cultures that outright kill LGBT. Will the liberals ever call these people fleeing these countries "pieces of shit" and tell them to turn around and go back?
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Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Datajoy constantly responding with "Yikes" is pretty funny.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Alright folks, got back from having a nicely deserved holiday. Shit was good. Like i said i did pick up on some things whilst abroad (Usually at night) so that's something i would want to analyse later on.
But just reading through these last few pages, i do notice a paradigm shift in responding. It is less about discussion and nuance and more about lets throw some matches towards other forums and see which one burns. I understand the need to vent (As thats why this thread even exists in the first place!) but just from me personally (And in no way does anyone have to abide by this!), lets take on a more journalistic approach. If we want a GAF 3.0 the right way, is it a good thing then to deliver commentary that is less about nuanced commentary and more just baseless rants? We should set an example, not just be a less extreme parrot of other sites, right?
Just my 2 cents on this matter. Again, feel free to ignore this, its just something i wanted to push out. I think providing analysis on certain ERA threads is worthwhile, provided they are taken with care. Just a simple ''lol look at this soy boi'' or oneliner commentary is not my way of play, as it just creates hostility among forums. Remember, its not all of ERA that is problematic. Its that little group of staff and members that make the site have the name that it has. Even without any of the places reporting and shaming on it around, in the end they make the posts. They make the kind of decisions that even regular members on the site itself don't understand. They are responsible for upholding a policy that isn't transparent at all. The only thing transparent is in how The Names and their Little Helpers enforce this policy, by way of baiting, selective ignoring, disinterest, and actively forfeiting the few pillars that would make the moderation a ''fair'' deal instead of an ''unfair'' playground. In the end, these actions are solely theirs, no matter how much they want to redelegate this to other places.
Its like The Names steal a candy bar, the security camera sees this and yet you decide to blame the cashier for stealing the bar when she confronts you with this. This is literally The Names and their Little Helpers in a nutshell. The whole action of stealing in this hypothetical situation is solely on ERA, and not on the security camera or the cashier who confronts you about it.
As long as this narrative and movement and policy continues to exist, then they won't get anywhere. As long as it isnt realized that the actions they perform are negative in nature and only serve to maintain a microcosmos of toxicity, fear, and hostility, then all this will do is make the name ''RESETERA'' be one of extreme negativity. *
*And gender in this makes no difference, before The Names would tell you otherwise. This is simple human-to-human interaction, genderneutral.
That being said, this whole ''Mods will threaten users if they wont reply within a certain amount of time'' theory needs more detail. I do agree that users would pile on OP's or other users with discerning thoughts but i'd really like to see some evidence for the italic part here.
But as of this writing, that thread barely has hit 40 posts. It should also be worth pointing out that most of these posts are reactions, and not actually discussing the topic at hand. Makes sense given how any nuanced commentary will likely see a The Names bot checking you out. (Okay i am ridiculing here but the fact most posts are just oneliner commentaries.) So much for pushing trans acceptance, as this is the kind of news that you would want to have 20+ pages of discussion over. THIS IS THAT KIND OF THREAD, MEMBERS OF THE NAMES AND THE LITTLE HELPERS. But it gets ignored. Even Sterling Archer asking how the trans community feels about trans actors playing roles who are also trans gets unheard of. But i reckon The Little Helpers are just tired of explaining ''the same issue over and over again to men, PoC to white people, trans people to cis people, etc. You tend to get frustrated and exhausted. Especially when there's literally a trans 101 thread somewhere on this board, and also google searches take very little time.'', i reckon. That, or well.. you and others are doing this for a reason. (being a baiting Little Helper, that is.)
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This should also tell you how i myself view feedback and criticism on ERA.
But just reading through these last few pages, i do notice a paradigm shift in responding. It is less about discussion and nuance and more about lets throw some matches towards other forums and see which one burns. I understand the need to vent (As thats why this thread even exists in the first place!) but just from me personally (And in no way does anyone have to abide by this!), lets take on a more journalistic approach. If we want a GAF 3.0 the right way, is it a good thing then to deliver commentary that is less about nuanced commentary and more just baseless rants? We should set an example, not just be a less extreme parrot of other sites, right?
Just my 2 cents on this matter. Again, feel free to ignore this, its just something i wanted to push out. I think providing analysis on certain ERA threads is worthwhile, provided they are taken with care. Just a simple ''lol look at this soy boi'' or oneliner commentary is not my way of play, as it just creates hostility among forums. Remember, its not all of ERA that is problematic. Its that little group of staff and members that make the site have the name that it has. Even without any of the places reporting and shaming on it around, in the end they make the posts. They make the kind of decisions that even regular members on the site itself don't understand. They are responsible for upholding a policy that isn't transparent at all. The only thing transparent is in how The Names and their Little Helpers enforce this policy, by way of baiting, selective ignoring, disinterest, and actively forfeiting the few pillars that would make the moderation a ''fair'' deal instead of an ''unfair'' playground. In the end, these actions are solely theirs, no matter how much they want to redelegate this to other places.
Its like The Names steal a candy bar, the security camera sees this and yet you decide to blame the cashier for stealing the bar when she confronts you with this. This is literally The Names and their Little Helpers in a nutshell. The whole action of stealing in this hypothetical situation is solely on ERA, and not on the security camera or the cashier who confronts you about it.
As long as this narrative and movement and policy continues to exist, then they won't get anywhere. As long as it isnt realized that the actions they perform are negative in nature and only serve to maintain a microcosmos of toxicity, fear, and hostility, then all this will do is make the name ''RESETERA'' be one of extreme negativity. *
*And gender in this makes no difference, before The Names would tell you otherwise. This is simple human-to-human interaction, genderneutral.
I agree that when OP's have a weird or strange premise (Or happen to have a view against what The Names want), dogpiling is one of the first things that occurs. Oddly enough, there was a thread early on (Say February) where a lot of members would comment how this is actually one of their biggest pet peeves on that forum. If that is the case, then you would think that this kind of thing gets to be actioned more than others. But as is readily apparent, dogpiling is a thing that happens a lot over there. That doesnt mean GAF is innocent, however: We too committed this crime.
That being said, this whole ''Mods will threaten users if they wont reply within a certain amount of time'' theory needs more detail. I do agree that users would pile on OP's or other users with discerning thoughts but i'd really like to see some evidence for the italic part here.
Agreed, but on forum OP's, it is definitely very irritating when an OP posts something with little effort or is deliberately contrarian. I usually flag those posts (And occassionally it gets dealt with on ERA, but a lot of times a report simply gets no response. Apparently its the amount of report that makes a case been taken seriously rather than the report itself) but more often than not when a OP has a confusing premise, it often happens that context is only given by the OP in a later stage. Hence why i flagg these threads, i feel that if you are going to make a thread on a serious topic, you atleast put all the context in. There are OP's on ERA (Such as this and this) that are the living definition of lacking effort and failing to adher to the show some effort clause but yet they get no flags whatsoever. My report on that latter thread was:
But why stop there? There are various threads (And this post: Beware, might kick your CPU HARD. Just this post somehow throws my fans into overdrive) that clearly have very little effort applied to them, but none of them get flagged. This last user in particular is doing this ever so often aswell. In my eyes, this is an issue a transparent member of The Names would pick up and improve upon. As it stands now, low-effort posting over there is rewarding, as long as:
- It is dumb
- It is dumb/pretends to be funny/vague (Like this thread) which i reported to (But got nothing from, ofcourse) with:
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- It is dumb
- We are just having fun!
But as of this writing, that thread barely has hit 40 posts. It should also be worth pointing out that most of these posts are reactions, and not actually discussing the topic at hand. Makes sense given how any nuanced commentary will likely see a The Names bot checking you out. (Okay i am ridiculing here but the fact most posts are just oneliner commentaries.) So much for pushing trans acceptance, as this is the kind of news that you would want to have 20+ pages of discussion over. THIS IS THAT KIND OF THREAD, MEMBERS OF THE NAMES AND THE LITTLE HELPERS. But it gets ignored. Even Sterling Archer asking how the trans community feels about trans actors playing roles who are also trans gets unheard of. But i reckon The Little Helpers are just tired of explaining ''the same issue over and over again to men, PoC to white people, trans people to cis people, etc. You tend to get frustrated and exhausted. Especially when there's literally a trans 101 thread somewhere on this board, and also google searches take very little time.'', i reckon. That, or well.. you and others are doing this for a reason. (being a baiting Little Helper, that is.)
Its a bit of a double edged sword. I understand the not responding part, but i think the like system also enables people to just like simple oneliners instead of an more extensive reply that is more likely to nuance the situation better. It does not really promote critical thought and discussion, in my eyes. And when it comes to more serious issues, isnt that what you would want? I mean, that is one of the main gripes with the Facebook like system anyway, so its not like this is uncommon. Just saying
For reference: This is what i mean with the like feature. This gets a lot of likes because people agree with it, but it lacks much to back it up. I do know the head admin of ERA did some questionable posting, but i can't comment on much else. This is where i would want something to back up what is written. (Don't worries Claus still love you lots xx
)Diversity does not equal quality. Just because The Names are diverse and varied obviously does not mean the quality of their moderation is good at all. In my opinion, you select moderators based on their skill and their qualities, not because they represent some kind of minority or a specific gender. That literally has zero relevance to a forum where posts are written in text. Given the recent additions, its clear The Names don't pick new staff based on skill or qualities, but just how much you support the kind of militrans policy that is at play here. It is a damn shame that they continue this behavior with the recent additions. I feel there is little awareness on how maintaining that ambiance comes across. Not just to outside sources, but certainly amongst their own members.
I tend to agree halfway here. But for that, read my beginning of the post here
This should also tell you how i myself view feedback and criticism on ERA.Thank you. This is exactly why i went against linking to a thread where all this public information is stored on certain The Names users. They don't need to be shamed for who they are and what they do, but they should be critiqued at their own actions. Its also why i am getting mixed impressions on the Banbot over at Kiwi. Crunklord extends the bot more and more with all kinds of (useful) data, but by including more and more metadata, you are coming close to that grey area where it seems its less about collecting statistics and the angle (Despite doing nothing i believe that is anything illegal, the bot just collects data that the community makes) seems more shifted to a less positive tone. Like i said, they don't do anything wrong, but you can question how much stats you actually need to prove a point. Some of the stuff included definitely seems overkill to me which is why i speak of a shifted angle and a grey area.
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Spheyr
Banned
Having the wrong thoughts is verboten.
Dr. Claus
Banned
Redneckerz
Haha, no worries. I definitely should have gone more in-depth on that post as well as information behind it - but sadly I got caught off-track and completely forgotten about it.
For some more information, I will suggest you take what I say with a grain of salt as I currently do not have the means to back up these claims (given that all of my conversations with Cerium were on ResetEra and I cannot access that account, its messages, or do much of anything due to how they have handled bans).
Much of my previous knowledge of Cerium was much like anyone else here on Gaf. He has pushed the same identity politics/outrage that was prevalent on the site for years, even for the most minor of issues such as JonTron's Yooka-Laylee voice acting. When I originally joined Era, it was under the pretense that it was going to be a "new age" that would do away with the harsh moderation and close-minded community that was Old Gaf. I got suckered into this as I had a few friends and even a family member say how much "better" it was, despite at who was running the show.
Over time, I noticed that it was hardly the paradise that they made it out to be and so I had contacted Cerium on a number of occasions, usually to do with poor moves I believed his mod team to have been making. Each communication only bolstered the opinion that I had stated prior. Paraphrasing from what I remember, Cerium had stated things such as "ResetEra is a place for the left. Anyone who supports Trump or GamerGate is not welcome here", "ResetEra is not for 'gamers'. 'Gamers' are what is wrong with the industry", and "There is nothing wrong with wishing harm to those who want to harm others" (The last one was in reference to people saying that republicans/trump supporters should be murdered/killed/harmed).
I believe this put me on a list as I was given far more warnings/bans in rapid succession shortly after these messages. However, that may just be a conspiracy theory.
Skyn3t
Banned
Redneckerz
a nicely rounded and well put opinion, mate. Was a pleasure to read.Regarding trans people, GAF is the first place where I encountered so much talk about this mental disorder. Well, I guess it's a hot narrative in the States right now.
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Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
The reason why i put so much emphasis on evidence in this case is the way of acting is vastly different. This is logical: The admin was just a poster here, albeit very prevalent. There the user is the originator of the ship, the person who keeps the cogwheels in place and the train track supply on-going. As such, his role as a user has shifted: From contributor to founder. As such, i want to focus on the founder version of his persona, as i am not aware of his identity politics/outrage kind of thing. And to that, i imagine that he has to work a lot behind-the-scenes, dealing with things the average user does not see, much like Evilore. As such, although i have no real proper reason to, i figure that the admin is more or less unaware of what The Names do with his site. I say more or less because his LLC did take a hammer upon the old banbot, which may suggest otherwise.
Haha, no worries. I definitely should have gone more in-depth on that post as well as information behind it - but sadly I got caught off-track and completely forgotten about it.
For some more information, I will suggest you take what I say with a grain of salt as I currently do not have the means to back up these claims (given that all of my conversations with Cerium were on ResetEra and I cannot access that account, its messages, or do much of anything due to how they have handled bans).
Much of my previous knowledge of Cerium was much like anyone else here on Gaf. He has pushed the same identity politics/outrage that was prevalent on the site for years, even for the most minor of issues such as JonTron's Yooka-Laylee voice acting. When I originally joined Era, it was under the pretense that it was going to be a "new age" that would do away with the harsh moderation and close-minded community that was Old Gaf. I got suckered into this as I had a few friends and even a family member say how much "better" it was, despite at who was running the show.
Over time, I noticed that it was hardly the paradise that they made it out to be and so I had contacted Cerium on a number of occasions, usually to do with poor moves I believed his mod team to have been making. Each communication only bolstered the opinion that I had stated prior. Paraphrasing from what I remember, Cerium had stated things such as "ResetEra is a place for the left. Anyone who supports Trump or GamerGate is not welcome here", "ResetEra is not for 'gamers'. 'Gamers' are what is wrong with the industry", and "There is nothing wrong with wishing harm to those who want to harm others" (The last one was in reference to people saying that republicans/trump supporters should be murdered/killed/harmed).
I believe this put me on a list as I was given far more warnings/bans in rapid succession shortly after these messages. However, that may just be a conspiracy theory.
That being said, it is readily apparent that the ''good samaritan'' period was only brief and From February onwards (Or perhaps even earlier), things started to progress more heavily downwards. But, and this is where i would need confirmation from, i don't specifically believe that the admin is the root cause of these matters, but rather, The Names being given a lot of influence over things they should not preside at. Whether or not the admin actively knows of this is a question we can only see answered by way of PM's, which, in practice, would constitute a doxxing, which obviously is what we won't do.
I mean, i know quite a bit of Cerium from the negative spectrum but all of that, if posted here, would definitely be off the mark.
I will say this though. That Discord screenshot of the admin talking with an EX-GAF mod definitely was strange enough that you would think it was fake - Until it was confirmed as being real. With that said, i can understand the phrasings you have given here, as they do play in into that screenshot from back then. Heck, it may very well be the case that the admin is secretly the driving force behind The Names holding absolute power as its founder. There are definitely some signs that paint a less positive picture here, but until then, all it is, is a smoking gun. And whilst smoking guns often may be true, they can be wrong. Likely i am choosing a more positive note out of plain naiveity, but all in all, i wish ERA and GAF would walk on equal footing, one day. All GAF can do is take lessons from the past and improve upon it. ERA, and specifically The Names and their Little Helpers, yet lack the history to realize these things. Which is good, by the way. Change has to occur before they can understand that their way of doing things is less than optimal. Not saying that GAF's is pitch perfect, mind you.
The Names need to be subject to change. As do their Little Helpers. Building a community based out of passive aggression, dogpiling and whistling, and militant policies is not a community that can foster healthy relationships with other sites, nor can it be transparent, unless with transparent they refer to the old Soviet style of transparency in the way that you knew what you were going into with the Soviets. The same thing applies here. It is transparent in the sense that you can expect their behavior, in negative sense. The key decider for their place will be if they are able to change that to a more positive tune.
Thank you, fan of The Terminator films.
Regarding trans people, GAF is the first place where I encountered so much talk about this mental disorder. Well, I guess it's a hot narrative in the States right now.
FWIW, i don't think trans is a mental defect, but ive written at lengths about this topic already. Just so you know, there is a reason why i distinguish it as militrans, because i consider this as not beneficial for trans acceptance whatsoever, contrary to what they believe and think.
Skyn3t
Banned
The medical psychiatry field defines it as mental disorder, so... Who are we to argue?
BTW Terminator 1 & 2 are classics, one of the best movies in the genre, I'd even argue that the sequel is easily in the TOP 50 movies of all time and nr 1 when it comes to sci-fi action flicks. Such a fucking shame that the franchise was ruined after Cameron left the steer.
BTW Terminator 1 & 2 are classics, one of the best movies in the genre, I'd even argue that the sequel is easily in the TOP 50 movies of all time and nr 1 when it comes to sci-fi action flicks. Such a fucking shame that the franchise was ruined after Cameron left the steer.
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prag16
Banned
This thread is a treasure, it has it all: https://www.resetera.com/threads/eras-woman-problem-read-op.57534/
Apparently the safe space isn't safe enough for some people's liking. Then there are a ton of people praising the mods as being fair and 'central' with bans being well thought out.
And that grain of truth in the OP about how the some of the white knights there like to trot out minorities to exploit them in order to bludgeon some opponent in an argument (with that being the focus more than actually giving a shit about the minorities in question).
The consensus seems to be building in the thread that the issue with Era that needs to be fixed, is that the moderation is not strict/harsh enough. Yes! That's it. THAT'S the problem! That's the ONLY problem!! -_-
Apparently the safe space isn't safe enough for some people's liking. Then there are a ton of people praising the mods as being fair and 'central' with bans being well thought out.
And that grain of truth in the OP about how the some of the white knights there like to trot out minorities to exploit them in order to bludgeon some opponent in an argument (with that being the focus more than actually giving a shit about the minorities in question).
The consensus seems to be building in the thread that the issue with Era that needs to be fixed, is that the moderation is not strict/harsh enough. Yes! That's it. THAT'S the problem! That's the ONLY problem!! -_-
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Typhares
Member
As soon as I saw this thread title I knew it would be a good laugh.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
It's the same shit they pulled on old gaf. People who leaned right were banned and silenced yet to them the site was still full of idealogical enemies hiding behind every post that disagreed with them.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Must suck to live such a paranoid e-life.
prag16
Banned
A Nazi under every bed. A bigot behind every curtain. Such is life at era.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Especially when they look in the mirror.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
I know it says that, but i don't treat that as absolute. This is also on a per-person basis. Its why i made the distinguishment in the first place. Even so, they should get proper support. But again, i have written on this earlier in this very thread. I am just saying, those Little Helpers over there aren't pushing for the kind of acceptance that you would want
Again, i like how that gets gets over 150 views and the Nicole Maines thing gets literally just a fraction of that. Ofcourse it is written by a Little Helper. And ofcourse this is another one of those honeypot threads as is apparent by the ''This will probably get locked right off the bat but oh well.'' Like yeah, but nah.. But lets provide some commentary here, just to the OP, because since writing the amount of replies literally quadrupled.
What i find problematic on the OP is that she states: ''I had no idea the "please don't call women females" thread was going to blow up like it did, but apparently the idea of a woman politely requesting that men not refer to them in a demeaning way is unacceptable to some people on here.'' This is what i find very disingenous sounding, especially considering that OP was very lacking in content and was: ''I see this everywhere and it really rustles my jimmies, but never more than when I see dudes say "men" and "females" in the same sentence. Really says a lot about how they view women. Shit's dehumanising as fuck. If you refer to women as females please consider: 1) thinking about why you do that and 2) not doing it anymore.''
The whole ''Really says a lot about how they view women'' shtick is just bad faith bait posting. Come on, you really think such an OP lacking in content and with such a toxic pre-text is going to help foster a discussion where the thread does not have to be locked for review?
You know what my problem with this is? Its because the OP assumes that women IRL actually find this problematic. In Dutch, you don't even have different phrasings AFAIK for ''women'' as in Dutch, ''women'' is called vrouwen. When translated back, we tend to call them females. And a girl is a meisje. A young woman literally is Een jonge vrouw. There arent multiple words for the same phrasing here. Even so, how often don't you get told: ''How are you guys doing'', even by a woman? Oh right, but this argument is a false equivalency and a warnable offense. And no, women on ResetERA aren't what i would call a significant portion of women, unless women somehow are scared to tell up about this (And if that's the case, Proof it instead of making a baiting statement). Nor does it help that disagreeing with these views by a mod is somehow ''ignoring a mod post, repeatedly dismissing the concerns of others. History of infractions.'' and thus worthy of a 2 week ban.
In the end, this post tells it best:
Its almost like having a little empathy (This is a reference to my link under the name ''Another thread'' slightly further in this post.) wouldn't be hurtful, and in fact, may be the solution to the entire issue OP is experiencing.
The most degrading aspect on this is how all this somehow is dehumanizing. Yes, i am sure that when in casual smalltalk, or when you are redecorating your home your male/female/trans friend helps you out and asks: ''Hey guys can one of you help me out?'' you will go on stating how that is dehumanizing. What is argued, holds little ground to IRL, unless you tend to live with people who get upset over very tiny things. And to call that dehumanizing, it seems a bit.. much, no?*
It also does not really help that there is another thread going on with similar views. Its also a very similar kind of thread (Honeypot). Personally, glad to know that as a man i don't consider myself someone that needs to act manly or macho. Simply being friendly goes a long way. That a lot of others don't is none of my concern. But ranting about it on a forum surely isn't going to help anyone, unless you just want support. Which, in this case, is more hollow than actually helpful.
*It is essentially what i said here:
Once more, the people there assume bad intent when they speak of empathy. Empathy comes in a lot of shapes and sizes, taking what is the equivalent of a semantics argument and a discussion on something as correct adjectives and nouns should not be a justification to paint with such a broad brush. Link to some actual evidence to strengthen your position, instead of saying that men do this and then leave it at that. You can't expect perfect mastery of the English language as a requirement to the way people phrase things. And in the end, that is what it is: PHRASING.
I do want to end it with this closing statement by that OP:
If this is legit a struggle, then what one needs isnt posting on a forum where you already get aided by The Names by way of bans, templocking threads and actions to protect your feelings, nor should you sollicitite to the position of Little Helper. If you truly feel these things damage and affect you in a significant way, then you might need (proper) help. And i am not saying that just to shun the discussion, i am just saying that being so worked up over this that you dedicated two threads and multiple posts on this matter is an unhealthy business (Much like how my reporting is equally unhealthy lol).
Also, just ending with ''But not all men are like this. But enough that is a problem.'' does not really help for the intent of your thread, which clearly isn't done in good faith. If it is problematic enough that it affects you deeply, you would be actively doing something on this IRL, protesting, trying to make change. Making multiple threads on a forum ruled by yes-mans (Or is this phrasing problematic too, hmm?) is not done to actively remedy your issue. Nah, the root is far more simple - Its validation. And thankfully The Names will happily help this Little Helper out, by keeping its thread open - contrary to the OP, who geniunely thought it would be locked. /s.
EDIT: Since making this post, that thread has shifted from 150 replies to 700 replies. If that isn't honeypotting a thread, i don't know what is.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
These people are fucking mentally insane. They live online constantly shifting narratives and finding new words/things to be offended by. All to just to beat down/pile on your average "normal" person (which they despise) who have zero ill intent or malice when using such commonplace words.
Once that word or narrative gets old, they move on to another word and/or narrative, make up their own delusional head canon, then vilify that word/action and the people who use it... what a miserable existence.
It's like a virus, moving on from cell to cell and attacking it till it's a shell of its former self. Parasitic, where they feed off the negative energy of making people feel bad about themselves for no reason due to the mob mentality pile-ons they are constantly inventing.
They're never happy, and it seems they never want to be happy since their lives are enriched through that constant misery. Almost like it's the only way they can feel.
Once that word or narrative gets old, they move on to another word and/or narrative, make up their own delusional head canon, then vilify that word/action and the people who use it... what a miserable existence.
It's like a virus, moving on from cell to cell and attacking it till it's a shell of its former self. Parasitic, where they feed off the negative energy of making people feel bad about themselves for no reason due to the mob mentality pile-ons they are constantly inventing.
They're never happy, and it seems they never want to be happy since their lives are enriched through that constant misery. Almost like it's the only way they can feel.
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They know that they can't get that kind of schizophrenic, highly thought policed environment in real life. I think that's why they are drawn to it: it's a virtual realisation of their ultimate authoritarian fantasy where people with "wrong thoughts" are swiftly eliminated and those with "correct thoughts" are permitted and promoted.
The visible fanatics on there delight in baiting naive users into saying something "wrong", and then seeing them punished by the (in their view) god-like mods.
The visible fanatics on there delight in baiting naive users into saying something "wrong", and then seeing them punished by the (in their view) god-like mods.
captainraincoat
Banned
Once again I am convinced there are some very clever trolls on that board and the mods are basically gyrating around the bait like demi Moore in that shitty 90s movie with burt Reynolds in baby oil.
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Deleted member 713885
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The OP of this thread, the one always up in arms over "Looking at women as a piece of meat"..
Well, shes an obese A-sexual woman. Willing to bet also unemployed with a number of mental health issues (which is common for the usual Era Pro-User)
Now, would anyone in their right mind take her opinion to be valid? I myself see this as a deep seated inner hate for 'normal' women. Shes projecting.
It's like, the user Kev2grizzy or some shit that post over their.
Always quick to jump to be a 'male feminist'
Kev is an 'Incel' but not 'part of the movement' type. He uses his real pic as a profile pic and clear... Kev isnt knocking the ladies dead with his looks.
He started a thread about Logan Paul dating Chole Bennet and was laughed at.
He displayed classic Incel traits in his posting as a bitter nerd angry that a Chad got his Nerd Stacy.
These people arent normal. But they are great to laugh at and dissect like a science project.
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Deleted member 713885
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Six Sociological Characteristics of Cults
[1] Authoritarian Leadership
BAN THEM ALL!!
[2] Exclusivism
BAN THEM ALL!
[3] Isolationism
MORE BANS!!
[4] Opposition to Independent Thinking
I NEED MY BUBBLE!!
[5] Fear of Being "Disfellowshiped"
DONT BAN ME, IM PART OF THE NAMES!!
[6] Threats of Satanic Attack
TRUMP, NAZIS AAHHHHHAHH
pls someone with a troll account burn it by posting this!
[1] Authoritarian Leadership
BAN THEM ALL!!
[2] Exclusivism
BAN THEM ALL!
[3] Isolationism
MORE BANS!!
[4] Opposition to Independent Thinking
I NEED MY BUBBLE!!
[5] Fear of Being "Disfellowshiped"
DONT BAN ME, IM PART OF THE NAMES!!
[6] Threats of Satanic Attack
TRUMP, NAZIS AAHHHHHAHH
pls someone with a troll account burn it by posting this!
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Deleted member 713885
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No, shes regularly talked about on the other sites following the ResetEra dumpster fire. I'll find her old GAF username in a bit
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This is the bio I found on her
"Persephone aka pashmilla (GAF username) aka feministfuhrer is that obnoxious "asexual" tumblr landwhale. Thankfully It's not going to produce any offspring / will eat itself to a heart attack anyway"
captainraincoat
Banned
JORMBO
Darkness no more
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Then you sir...would be a king among men. But to truly reach that highest peak you would need to bring it to an absolute boiling point then expose yourself. That would be the ultimate move. Work them into a lather, have them following your every word then "Lol, did it for the lulz! Later nerdz!!!"
captainraincoat
Banned
Beard of the Forest
The No. 1 cause of forest fires is trees.
cpp_is_king
Member
I started reading this thread (found it on my own, not through here) and at first was like "damn does someone actually realize how problematic and insane this forum is becoming?"
Then as i got further, i was like no this can't be happening and by the end of the thread I'd lost all hope for that forum
prag16
Banned
The forum was already circling the drain, but that thread is a nice cherry on top for sure. It's absolutely unreal how completely out of touch with reality so many posters there are. Their days are numbered. The place will tear itself apart, even without a phony #metoo scandal to grease the skids.
They may limp along for a year or more before they destroy themselves, but the midterms could accelerate the process if they don't deliver the 'correct' result. Era better hope no Democratic strategists browse Era for campaign tips. The Republicans will get a filibuster proof supermajority.
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captainraincoat
Banned
Don't worry...I'm pretty sure there's gonna be more comedy gems
In all seriousness they view gaf as an alt right forum.....I thought having an open discussion about something without banning or segregating sections of the community is called progressive???
What's talked about in there is straight out crazy and what's even more worrying is the mods and people that follow that sort of line in conversation....I get that people have different experiences and views in life and I'm all for a different opinion on something that I believe in but some of those posters are straight out hate filled and don't realize that the only way to progress on their perception of events in life is open and honest discussion....this is what's gets lost....this is the difference between gaf and era
Papa
Banned
I hope it survives the mid terms because I've got the popcorn ready for the election.
Are you guys aware that many of the communities on era have their own discord servers where they discuss who to report and enjoy seeing people get banned. It's pretty much a trolling excercise for alot of them and the mods are falling for it. And era will ban for literally anything. It will even ban for things you might not expect them to ban for such as generalising white people and stuff like that.
prag16
Banned
Ah, the Era discords. I got removed from multiple discords after my permaban. They can't be seen breaking bread with an enemy I guess. Blacklisted.
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The craziest part of Era is..who is real, and who is trolling?
At this point...I dont know.
Some times I wonder if most of, if not all, the 'Names' are just trolls taking the piss out of simpletons and having them dance like marionettes.
And it's like a monthly or bi-monthly occurrence a minority group has a 'Protest' thread or a gripe.
They have a Womans protest thread..dominated and largely posted in by..Transwomen...Da fuq?!
For a Utopia they sure have A LOT of inner turmoil.
At this point...I dont know.
Some times I wonder if most of, if not all, the 'Names' are just trolls taking the piss out of simpletons and having them dance like marionettes.
And it's like a monthly or bi-monthly occurrence a minority group has a 'Protest' thread or a gripe.
They have a Womans protest thread..dominated and largely posted in by..Transwomen...Da fuq?!
For a Utopia they sure have A LOT of inner turmoil.
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From the forums that brought you such hits as: Millshake Duck
Yikes
Arguing in Bad Faith
The new summer banger has just been released..
Brogressive!
Let all ya White Cishet Males know.. YOU AINT SLICK!
Yikes
Arguing in Bad Faith
The new summer banger has just been released..
Brogressive!
Let all ya White Cishet Males know.. YOU AINT SLICK!
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