shenmue mugen
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XSEX was confirmed to actually be two SKUs: XSEX Preliminary and XSEX Climax.
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XSEX was confirmed to actually be two SKUs: XSEX Preliminary and XSEX Climax.
Rightisright
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The 12 Tflops for Xbox was first leaked in Feb 2019, along with the 4 tflops for Lockhart.
vivftp
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Such bitterness.
Proelite
Member
Actually January on Reddit.
The only new info that came to me in the past two months is 56CUs for Arden. I already knew every else since two months ago.
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Rightisright
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That's all they do. Klee said PS5 slightly more powerful, but that could change. They will no doubt say they were told the GCN equivalent flops and that's why their number was higher.
All smoke and mirrors. Unless they come out and give exact specs then they should be taken with a pinch of salt.
David Ricardo
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Here you will find some people that will understand and support your dual gpu theories.
chemical boy
Member
Then, with more reason, how Sony was going to present months later, much lower development kits ...
demigod
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Thanks. His explanation makes sense and it also aligns with what Klee was saying.
People here thought this pastebin info was a joke, but maybe it wasnt
PS5 and Scarlett dev kits - Pastebin.com
Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.pastebin.com
. Around 12 TF for both consoles is exciting.
This pastebin sounds believable. MS is not willing to lose much on hardware. All their hardware this gen are overpriced. The One, One X, and even SAD. How are they able to drop the One X down to $250 during the holidays and the SAD to $150? By marking those consoles high at first, not eating any losses.
Self High Five
Member
LOL Matt is battling all comers in the Ree thread...
This is why insiders have been silent in general...they're gonna get attacked by one side or the other.
This is why insiders have been silent in general...they're gonna get attacked by one side or the other.
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DForce
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Matt is not a "fake" insider as some have suggested. I've seen some people who used him as a sources are now calling him fake.
He has enough credibility for us to believe that he knows somethings, but how much he knows is the question.
People who have inside information don't always get things correct or things change throughout the months\years.
People need to settle down.
He has enough credibility for us to believe that he knows somethings, but how much he knows is the question.
People who have inside information don't always get things correct or things change throughout the months\years.
People need to settle down.
Proelite
Member
Sony devkits before V shaped was Vega 64, as was told to me by someone I trust.
Im bitter because they banned me back in 2013 over stupidest thing ever and I had account for 6 years I think
So when I read stupid shit on Era I get triggered.
Hawking Radiation
Member
My sketch on how i'd like the PS5 retail box to look like. The cooling such a design would provide would be amazing. No more jet engined console lol
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Lone Wolf
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Who banned you?Im bitter because they banned me back in 2013 over stupidest thing ever and I had account for 6 years I think
So when I read stupid shit on Era I get triggered.
Rightisright
Banned
Attacked, or asked to clarify a vague comment?
Tbh I dont remember exact mod. I would have to search for my old username lol but first I got temporary ban and then they banned me permenately after like a day of "disscusion" amongst mods.
Rightisright
Banned
Did you let it slip you were a hetrosexual?
I actually think it was a first game of that trans girl/boy dont remember it clearly but I think I said "who cares" or something like that and bam! Banned.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
I think they're silent because they have insiders who trust them with valuable information and any sort of "leak" would ruin that.
You also have websites who would take any bit of information and make a 18 paragraph news article about it.
SportsFan581
Member
The way people fight about these numbers. LOL
12 and 13TF sound amazing to me. Maybe MS wasn't as confident in the clocks, word on the street was they got burned in 2013 in that area.
12 and 13TF sound amazing to me. Maybe MS wasn't as confident in the clocks, word on the street was they got burned in 2013 in that area.
Little Chicken
Member
Just give us the specs! I'm sure these billion/trillion dollar companies will cope 
Hawking Radiation
Member
This.
Also can't count how many times articles have been published based on insiders on these forums.
Racer!
Member
That is exactly what Sony should do. Raise base specs as high as possible. With new technologies like ultra fast SSD, RT, HBM or other supercharged memory configs. If they could afford to eat 200$ on PS3, they can afford at least 150$ now. Build for 650$, sell for 499$. With 5 and 3 nm on the horizon, they can get that price down in a year or two. This would fend off consumer demand for "pro consumer" policies with tighter integration to other platforms which only serves to weakening their own. Which if it does, the only moat Sony has left is their first party studios. (Most people will understand why the software has to live on PS5 only, it should provide that big of a leap/be that "exotic") Meanwhile, Microsoft has committed to gamepass, and to be on every device. They are going to make sure their games work on PC`s far back from last generation with slow mechanical hdd`s and slow GPU`s (compared to a high end base sony next gen) in addition to a possible 4 TF Lockhart.
Thats how Sony`s platform remains the best place to play imo.
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FranXico
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Really? Back in 2013, there was way more wrong with that console than clocks.
Ovech-King
Member
Ha! So technically Xbox Series is 12 tflops RDNA which above and beyond 2 times more powerful than Xbox One X (6 tflops GCN)
Yet, PS5 should be in the same ballpark perhaps even a little more powerful? The latest leaks indicates a 9.2 RDNA tflops for the PS5 so;
Which one of the two statements is wrong?
Yet, PS5 should be in the same ballpark perhaps even a little more powerful? The latest leaks indicates a 9.2 RDNA tflops for the PS5 so;
Which one of the two statements is wrong?
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SportsFan581
Member
True, but it was intended to be closer to PS4 in power, unfortunately they were unable to clock the chip as high as they wanted (at acceptable production quantities). At least that is the rumor.
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Proelite
Member
The late 6.6% upclock definitely burned some money.
Lone Wolf
Member
The $200 loss on PS3 was devastating, and I don't think a $150 loss is a great idea either. I would imagine that any loss they take would be under $50.
TLZ
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So According to Tom Warren the PS5 devkit in June 2019 was 13tf. The consoles will most probably come out Nov 2020 at the earliest. So that makes it 1.5 years too. Fits perfectly with what you saidAnyone remembers this gem? Xbox 360 spec leak in April 2004, 1.5years before it was released.
Xbox 360 tech a decade old - Xenon System Diagram leaked April 2004
I recall the diagram being called fake by some of the press and individuals. GameSpot Rumor Control April 30, 2004 RUMOR #2: A technical diagram of the Xbox Next has been leaked. Source: Chinese hardware site GZeasy.com. The official story: "Microsoft does not comment on rumor...forum.beyond3d.com
You can see how far they are designed and locked from this. Some things can change (mem amount and clocks, but chip design no).
Racer!
Member
Then they did not have PSN revenue like they have now. Not to mention, counting for inflation 200$ in 2006 is 250$ in 2020. 150$ would be fine.
There might be 4
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
The recent "leaks" have really focused on Xbox 12TF and PS5 at around 9TF.
When the official specs are released some time next year, I can't wait to see how close these so-called leaks are to the real console.
But I know what's going to happen............ MS and PS5 both release 10.5TF consoles so neither projection was close..........
"But, but, it's the info I had at the time. I was right. Trust me. MS and Sony changed it at the last minute"
In other words, these rumour mongering asstards will always claim they "were right" at some point in time, as if they are trying to bat 1.000 at all times.
Lone Wolf
Member
Will not happen.
Hawking Radiation
Member
Lol they're eating each other again over at Era
Matt really whacked the hornets nest over there.
Matt really whacked the hornets nest over there.
Racer!
Member
It would be a really smart investment into their own platform.
DeepEnigma
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Rightisright
Banned
Lol.
Matt looks like he is downplaying everything now.
It's just a toy.
Matt looks like he is downplaying everything now.
It's just a toy.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I agree.
MS has sold about 50M Xbox Ones and Sony about 100M PS4s. That isn't much different than last gen where both 360 and PS3 sold about 85M each.
This gen, console makers are breaking even or making a touch of profit. No more digging a grave the first few years subsidizing gamers with $100+ of costs.
So the companies know gamers will still buy them. At the start of the gen (2013), gamers who know about tech even all agreed these are gimped laptop CPUs and getting 1080p all the time is a stretch. Even PS4 OG can't do 1080p all the time. Yet gamers still bought up consoles.
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Racer!
Member
I think you need to educate yourself. Its a huge cashcow for Sony.
Its not about digging a grave or subsidizing gamers, its the opposite. Its about securing future revenue. Its about conquering as much as possible of the current market and expanding it.
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Gamernyc78
Banned
PS3 loss was devastating because it was so high but I think they'd take upwards to a $100 loss if pushed just not more than that.
policestationx
Banned
Matt is having a meltdown on Reera 
Looks like this GitHub leaks is starting to hurt some people, even the OP wanted to move away from the discussion in the new op.
Bless Komachi and rogamer
Looks like this GitHub leaks is starting to hurt some people, even the OP wanted to move away from the discussion in the new op.
Bless Komachi and rogamer
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Hawking Radiation
Member
Or perhaps he's fed up with one side fighting with the other when they post there.Matt is having a meltdown on Reera
JordanN
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Link to post?Matt is having a meltdown on Reera
It's about time we get one last drama before the new years.
Rightisright
Banned
Its So funny. He is lamenting about how all this speculation about the specs is tearing apart his community, yet apparently he knows the specs and could put an end to all this craziness by just putting the real facts forward. But no, becuase they are just toys.Matt is having a meltdown on Reera
CyberPanda
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CyberPanda
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Sure it's digging a grave.
The PS3 era was Sony's worst financials for their gaming division.
Sony didn't subsidize gamers with PS4 and still sold a ton and financials have been the best ever.
So why rock the boat with PS5 console losses?
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Rightisright
Banned
And people took him seriously as an insider with all the specs.
Please.
policestationx
Banned
This AMD internal testing leaks really caught the so called insiders pants down.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Haven't kept up..... what did asstard Matt say on Reeeee which showed he was BS'ing being an insider?
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