prinz_valium
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from Satya Nadella himself.
For comparison:
Ps Now is at 1 million
EA Access is at 5 million
For comparison:
Ps Now is at 1 million
EA Access is at 5 million
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Xbox Game Pass has more than 10 million subscribers.
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prinz_valium
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That's still $10 million each monthAt $1 each
Musky_Cheese
Banned
I have it on Xbox and PC. Well worth the monthly charge.
FYI in the Site Giveaways is a free month. Also NBA 2k20 for Xbox.
FYI in the Site Giveaways is a free month. Also NBA 2k20 for Xbox.
GHG
Member
They already do, they just aren't as aggressive with it. They barely do any marketing it outside of within the PlayStation ecosystem and first party games don't launch on the service.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Nice news. Gamepass is on fire, and no, everyone isn't paying $1. I've been on Ultimate for awhile, and while I haven't paid full price, I probably have averaged close to $10 a month.
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
It's a LOT more money than that, since contrary to popular Sonyfan belief, a helluva lot of people that try the $1 one month trial end up loving it and they stay pay $10-$15 (ultimate) per month. It's by far the best deal in gaming and and worth far MORE the full monthly price.
Craig of War
Banned
I have Gamepass Ultimate till 2022 using the free Microsoft Rewards points that i have save up over the years it is the best deal in gaming history im happy it is growing a lot.
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TheSpecialOne
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Nope, I got 13 months of gamepass ultimate for 1 dollar. They had a conversion earlier where if you paid $1, it would convert your remaining XBLG membership to Gamepass Ultimate for $1 up to 36 months. Lots of people stacked 3 years of XBLG and then purchased Gamepass Ultimate for $1. So no, not $10 million a month at all. It's a great service but it surprises me how those who claim to be enthusiasts are often divorced from the reality of the matter.
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Craig of War
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Yes a quick search on google will tell you everything you need to know about Gamepass it also available for PC
SoloKingRobert
Banned
I pay monthly for Xbox Game Pass Ultimate Edition for £10.99 per month. Best Deal in Gaming.
Smoke6
Member
Still doesn't add up for this to continue being a thing? Out of all the AAA titles that are on game pass and still they won't reveal sales numbers even after the fact in relation to this service is very telling!
I'd hop on this too while I could but I don't see it lasting much longer!
congrats to them tho!
I'd hop on this too while I could but I don't see it lasting much longer!
congrats to them tho!
Craig of War
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Are you from the future? how do you know it won't last lol and I hope it last till atleast 2022 cause that when my subscription runs out lol
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Sales of what?
OptimistPrime
Member
$10-15 a month to not own a bunch of games can definitely work financially. If it gets enough long-term users like Netflix, this will be very profitable for them.
FranXico
Member
The bulk of their revenue is going to be coming from GP going forward.
Uzupedro
Member
Not wanting to be a jerk, after all the Gamepass is very good and few criticisms can be made of it(I just don't sign because I play very little), but comparing the numbers with EA Access, aren't they close? At least here in Brazil, EA Access is a worse service and the price, although cheaper, does not pay in comparison to the gamepass. I expected a much bigger difference between them.
prinz_valium
Member
And in your reality jokes do not exist?
Also the majority just pays $10 or $15 each month.
You paid $61 for 13 months Ultimate by the way.
Unless you got a deal. Than it may be $31. But that's not revenue loss, but maybe sales and marketing expenses, because Microsoft gave a rebate to a retailer.
And guess what. I paid $0 for 30 months of Game Pass Ultimate, because I use Microsoft rewards. But they sill make add revenue on that and get accounting benefits.
That is the reality.
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Its really cool if you have multiple xboxes. I've got a XB1 X in the livingroom and two XB1S in bedrooms and have plenty games for everyone to play in there respective rooms. Money saver.
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Smoke6
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this maybe over $100mil a month (ballpark figure but very close)
tripple A games cost damn near that to develop and that's not including marketing (we're talking triple A games here)
now take a look at all the game that are triple A that are on game pass thats not being SOLD. Which of course is a majority of them hence why I said we haven't seen sold thru numbers from Microsoft in quite a while for almost any of its games!
no numbers sold for crackdown 3, gears 5, forza, and that pirate game!
to support and sustain all of that just for some subs and to flaunt this number seems odd when we know a good chunk came from those deals they were tossing around all last year!
like I said it's great news for them as these numbers for some reason means more to them than selling thru!
I would have been a subscriber for games I may have not purchased of it wasn't for this service.
feel better now, as this was not a console war post just to let you know. It's more to do with how is this sustainable given the content they're releasing
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EA Access is available on more systems though (PC, Xbox, and PS)
Flintty
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A lot of us here did the same. But how many of the total are casual gamers who just sign up on the Xbox dash without taking advantage of loopholes like that? I'd wager a rather lot.
Arkam
Member
Your PS Now number is way off my friend that from before they did that big push last fall with all those commercials.
Jtibh
Banned
Psnow is the same as gamepass just maybe not as up to date given xbox exlusives are day one on gamepass , something sony would never do .
Right now months later we have spiderman on psnow and other big titles like control just case4 etc.
You can download all ps2 and ps4 games so you dont have to stream if you dont want to.
BUT and this is the big but , psnow is not available in europe and other parts of the world outside north america and some countries that i wouldnt know about.
So it will never have the user base like gamepass.
And it also doesnt have 1 dollar first month .
Man i have several friends who create every month a new account just to pay 1 dollar a month. They dont care for achivments and what else they just want to play the games for free.
It would seem if you were correct than you would huge gains in content and services revenue, these numbers I would say at best have been flat at best. Some quarters you had huge drops. Now content is mixed in, but really all you're doing is putting money from one pocket to another.
There is little doubt that gaming at Microsoft has been basically in steady decline for 5-10 years, that is why you have these random numbers that come out.
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Craig of War
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Lets leave the money numbers for Microsoft a trillion dollar tech giant company to worry about ok you and me as gamers we can just enjoy the games and as long as MS is making profit they will keep it going no need to worried about games sales when they MS themself are putting it on Gamepass day 1 so for us the consumer with Gamepass that is great and we can just enjoy it.
NoMoChokeSJ
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Gaers Tactics just came out it.
Smoke6
Member
how do? I laid out just their tripleA offerings and that was just a few games. Can you imagine the whole library?
aren't devs and publishers in this to make a profit right? So that means in order to get these games on game pass that MS would have to make them whole basically and then some correct?
kinda like that service bestbuy used to offer to get discounts on games when they released.
to the other poster I didn't quote, if you're saving money then that means someone is losing money correct?
becasue we could round up all the numbers for the games that went immediate to game pass and how they faired before game pass and after!
I mean, for this to work it has to be priced much higher and even Netflix wasn't doing so well for a while, actually covid-19 saved them to be honest!
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Okay so they have you engaged into their service for a year or more and that's somehow a failure? I'd say they knew exactly what they were doing. And it's not like you aren't paying them. So instead of $15 a month, they are giving you ultimate for the $10 you already paid. Game Pass is set to blow up next gen.
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FranXico
Member
This kind of subscription services has to be subsidized upfront in order to succeed. You have to burn a lot of money before turning a profit from it.
Very few companies can afford to do that.
Keep in mind, once habit settles in, people will even keep paying every month even though they no longer actually play games. Similar to what happens with Netflix.
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
I have way less than ZERO interest in dealing with any of your usual anti Game Pass FUD. How many times have you been banned for derailing Game Pass threads? Go find another hobby.
12Dannu123
Member
Sorry but Sony cannot sustain such a service.
Thirty7ven
Banned
People debating revenue are missing the point. If you believe most people are paying 10 to 15, you're dumb as a brick, and if you believe it matters to MS if people are paying 3$ or 15$ at this point in time, you're missing the point.
10 million subscribers is promising growth, if they get to 20 by next year everyone else will be jumping in hard on the numbers game.
They have done it before with Xbox Live, looks like they might be doing it again.
10 million subscribers is promising growth, if they get to 20 by next year everyone else will be jumping in hard on the numbers game.
They have done it before with Xbox Live, looks like they might be doing it again.
Smoke6
Member
This is the best reply I have seen from this and you articulated it well! Thank you!
farmerboy
Member
How so?
OptimistPrime
Member
The business appeal and value of a popular streaming service people pay for monthly is much greater than the success of an individual title. Each individually released title is a financial risk (is there an audience? Will our development decisions pan out?). Whereas if you're instead building a streaming catalog, one dud isn't going to hurt you. People will buy Gamepass for $120 a year regardless of whether this year's COD is better than Halo Infinite or whatever.
Getting people to go out and spend $60 twice a year on a completely new product is much harder than asking people to keep spending a recurring $120 for a service they've come to know and like.
Well, the you can get all upset, but logic would mean that service revenue should be going up... revenue has been going down for years since Game Pass came out.
Seems like you are the one attempting to derail, you offered your thoughts... you got a challenge, instead explaining yourself... you continue down the road of insults.
Answer.
At the end of the day, moving content revenue to service (rental) revenue is all that is going on... there is no uptick in this revenue category since Game Pass has been launch 3 years ago. This seems contrary to your pov, not saying we have enough data though.
Logic would seem like if you have huge amounts of paying customers and they are not simply moving money from one pocket to another... eventually you should see a huge uptick in revenue. That hasn't happened.
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CrustyBritches
Gold Member
The $1 deal just gets you hooked, like a free sample from a drug dealer. Game Pass is the best value in gaming. I have Ultimate, although I pretty much just play on PC. Just for the MS games it's worth the price, but throw a whole massive collection on top of it and it's undeniable.
Arkam
Member
Still impressive. Even if half the subs are PC that would still be a solid percentage of the user base on a premium sub. Just look at how many people get XBX/PS and dont pay for XBL/PSN. And that shit is needed to fully utilize many games.
Why not?
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Bingo. It sure worked that way with me, I'm hooked.