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ArcaneNLSC
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Mr. PlayStation
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IbelieveInGenerations
Banned
Holy shit! What an amazing work.
I am actually more excited for this than any New PS5 vídeo now.
user1337
Member
I always get stuff from Shopto. Just depends on when you registred interest, since their PS5 page went up in May/June for people that wanted to put their names in. Then its all first come first serve...exactly the same as everywhere else.
Mine is confirmed for day one, as I registered interest back in June, and reconfirmed my interest 2 weeks ago when they contacted me (and my brother, and my friends; we all got day 1 confirmations).
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
How is that apologetic? You are looking a one line out of an entire 20 minute video where the video directly says the textures not being lit kills detail and that a lot of the textures are unimaginative. Along with being a cross gen game that isn't scaling well due to the low levels of detail on textures and lighting.
BlueXImpulse
Banned
While it's disappointing that this is a cross gen title. The visuals haven't at all been compromised this is one of the best looking games ever.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Their page actually went up in January 24th, that's when I preordered mine.I always get stuff from Shopto. Just depends on when you registred interest, since their PS5 page went up in May/June for people that wanted to put their names in. Then its all first come first serve...exactly the same as everywhere else.
Mine is confirmed for day one, as I registered interest back in June, and reconfirmed my interest 2 weeks ago when they contacted me (and my brother, and my friends; we all got day 1 confirmations).
FranXico
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Poor Cherno begging for Xbox Series X next-gen gameplay to look at. He's going to have to wait a while longer.
Loxus
Member
PS5's UI Will Let You See Game Missions, Multiplayer Without Launching Titles
PlayStation 5 will have a "revamped" user interface that will show players multiplayer matches they can join or single-player missions they can complete without booting up the game.www.gamespot.com
And people say "Sony's lack of communication is becoming an issue"
Sony well show everything when the time comes at their own pace.
They show the Specs, Console and Price at their time,
Not every time Xbox show something PlayStation has to.
I think we need to stop comparing everything to Microsoft.
FranXico
Member
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Yeah let's ignore the bad textures too that were called out.
Aceofspades
Banned
True, I believed that at one point, but that doesn't change what I said I think about the differences between the two being minimal. Even if we ended up with 13TF PS5 and 11TF Xbox, the difference is still negligible.
PropellerEar
Member
I don't think we will agree on this, what you underlined sounds to me like just more apologies.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Sony warriors taking one sentence out of a 20 minute video as proof positive of their paranoid delusions?
Shocked I tell you. SHOCKED!
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Genuinely curious and I'd like to try and understand how calling something unimaginative is apologetic?
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FranXico
Member
There were so many things wrong with that demo, why spend so much time talking about lighting, but then nothing about geometry, resolution, effects, pop in? That was a goldmine of follow-up videos to talk about all those flaws. Disappointing.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
All of that was talked about.
FranXico
Member
Not for as long as lighting. They could have made more videos for sure. Was looking forward to them.
Garani
Member
He got bored by the PS5 tech advancements and calls for XBox Series stuff to react to.
Shall we sent him the Dirt 5 gameplay captured on Series S? It’s the only legit stuff we have at hand.
TBiddy
Member
It must be easy being a Youtuber these days. Just find a single line that you can construct drama about and then rant for 20 minutes. No one gives a shit if what you say is right or wrong, as long as it fits their point of view.
FranXico
Member
Yeah, it's at 120fps. He's going to say "at such a high framerate (for console), what did you expect? "
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
So the argument has went from they were apologetic and didn't call out the bad things, oh wait they did, but they talked about lighting more than the other bad things.
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FranXico
Member
I'm not calling them apologetic, you must be confusing me with someone else.
People expected them to either summarize all, or be equally thorough in all aspects.
Ideally, Alex could have done a summary of everything that's wrong together with John. Could have potentially been even more educational, too.
Aceofspades
Banned
Anyone who thinks DIgital Foundry is neutral simply weren't around during Xbox One launch in 2013.
I should be more specific, its Richard and Alex with strong and clear Xbox bias. John and Thomas are more professional and neutral.
I should be more specific, its Richard and Alex with strong and clear Xbox bias. John and Thomas are more professional and neutral.
Loxus
Member
The PS4 Pro is living proof your wrong buddy.
Angel of BOOM!
Member
My cousin bought PS1 with Virtua Fighter and alien Trilogy, and after I saw it in action, next day I went to the local game store to trade in my SNES and all the games for PS1.
PS
Good times!
Do you think you'd do the same from seeing faster loading times (and framerate) on games you'd already played and own?
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
That's what their tech analysis are for when the product is out.
If you don't agree with the video subject that's fine. But you specifically said the video didn't talk a out resolution, LOD and pop in, which it did.
So exactly what's your point? You wanted more content talking about the bad aspects? Ok that didn't happen. That doesn't somehow change DF perspective on the demo that was shown which was that the lighting, textures, LOD and pop in was bad.
Garani
Member
That’s not what I am implying. I am just stating that we have only that capture and nothing from series x.
this is what it is as of now. Maybe tonight we’ll get an info dump from Microsoft, but this is all we have got.
Neo Blaster
Member
Because PCs have bottlenecks that were supposedly addressed by these consoles. Well, at least in PS5.
FunkMiller
Banned
BB running at 60fps and 4K is basically the only real backwards compatibility metric I give a rosy red fuck about.
PropellerEar
Member
Like I said, we probably wont agree on this.
The whole video is explanations on to of explanations.
Texture can be unimaginative and still look good.
One thing to consider/ask your self... what is the need from DF to make a explanation/apology(imho) video like this for this Flagship game?
mejin
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PlayStation China Hero Project showcase set for September 30
Sony Interactive Entertainment Shanghai will host a “Back to Campus” event on September 30 at 19:00 CST, which will feature a segment with the latest information on its China Hero Proje…
www.gematsu.com
Not like we have anything for tomorrow anyway lol
BlueXImpulse
Banned
PlayStation China Hero Project showcase set for September 30
Sony Interactive Entertainment Shanghai will host a “Back to Campus” event on September 30 at 19:00 CST, which will feature a segment with the latest information on its China Hero Proje…
Not like we have anything for tomorrow anyway lol
Hope to see this for PS5
Evilms
Banned
PropellerEar
Member
No... all about new games and new experiences.
I have hard time to going back to games I've already finished.
Always try to buy physical ... and those that I finish I share with my friends and family so don't have big collection of them anymore.
BC is a nice feature but not essential for me.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Where did the video say it can still look good? Bad textures can't be saved by lighting.
The video is 20 minutes saying that the entire lighting system for the game is a bad choice overall, combined with bad LOD, bad pop in and bad image quality.
Instead of saying the lighting is bad and moving on the video went into the dynamics of how the lighting actually works to light textures instead of simply saying it's bad lighting and gave various examples of how bad lighting can make textures appear entirely different.
DF is a tech analysis channel. Its literally what they do. Lighting is a key part of engines. What did you want from them?
Neo Blaster
Member
Calm down, m8, we've already seen how R&C and DS load, at most these underwhelming results will be restricted to unoptimized BC games.
PropellerEar
Member
I said it, unimaginative texture can still look good.
Totally my opinion, you can quote me on that
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mejin
Member
I remember the creator said this game would launch this year, but then covid happened.
At least, we could have some update tomorrow.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Doesnt really answer the rest of the reply.
So if an unimaginative texture can look good what's the difference between a bad texture and unimaginative. Tetxures are created. If it's boring it's not going to look good. That's the point of the texture.
ghairat
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jose4gg
Member
What DF did with Halo was atrocious, you see
Kingthrash
video on the same game, and
- Animations
- Reflections
- Destruction
- Attention to detail like when the ship is flying
- AI compared to the previous Halo.
- The vegetation that is completely plain and REPETITIVE
- Effects, like the protective shield master uses when in previous games was A LOT BETTER.
- Bombs that emit lights but don't have interaction with the rest of the lighting.
- Bombs explode and there is no signal of the explosion.
- Etc, etc,
He was able to point out everything that makes Halo look bad, to continue to say it was simply the lighting, and waste video without a single 800% zoom, without saying the resolution, yea, they didn't review that shit like they needed to.
- Where is the resolution
- Where is the FPS count
- Where is everything that makes you worthy of the trust that you put in every video you want to confirm you are trustworthy like they did with the RTX 3080.
You can't find the same level of detail when there is something weird going on, on the MS side.
But God forbid Insomniac with the puddles...
Kingthrash
video on the same game, and- Animations
- Reflections
- Destruction
- Attention to detail like when the ship is flying
- AI compared to the previous Halo.
- The vegetation that is completely plain and REPETITIVE
- Effects, like the protective shield master uses when in previous games was A LOT BETTER.
- Bombs that emit lights but don't have interaction with the rest of the lighting.
- Bombs explode and there is no signal of the explosion.
- Etc, etc,
He was able to point out everything that makes Halo look bad, to continue to say it was simply the lighting, and waste video without a single 800% zoom, without saying the resolution, yea, they didn't review that shit like they needed to.
- Where is the resolution
- Where is the FPS count
- Where is everything that makes you worthy of the trust that you put in every video you want to confirm you are trustworthy like they did with the RTX 3080.
You can't find the same level of detail when there is something weird going on, on the MS side.
But God forbid Insomniac with the puddles...
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MrS
Banned
Strong disagree. They are the best in the biz. Ever reliable.
their page actually went up in November 2019. I preordered mine on January 16th.
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PropellerEar
Member
Now we are into semantics.
Unimaginative texture can be technically solid and perfectly good looking.
Angel of BOOM!
Member
Agreed. Sony will certainly want to dictate the ryhthm of their marketing (both the timing and the message itself) and not feel like they're being dictated to by MS.
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