Dirt 5: Digital Foundry Console Comparison - PlayStation 5 vs Xbox Series X/Series S + Performance - Every Game Mode Tested
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ethomaz
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What video Cherno exactly watched?
IMO I really don't see anything that looks better than PS4/XB1 racing games... the opposite Dirt 5 seems to have worst graphics than Forzas on Xbox One and GTS/DriveClub.
kuncol02
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There are clearly CPU problems on XBox. Every CPU bound scenario has abysmal performance (even when other modes are better than PS5 like in DMC5). That drops cannot be explained by hardware differences especially that XBox CPU is in theory faster than PS5 one. Even with PS5 optimizations like offloading IO it should be around same speed.
That would explain all that:
Mobile Suit Gooch
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MasterCornholio
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I'm seriously wondering if there's something in the hardware that's causing this. I can understand API problems causing some issues but so many of them?
And in Microsofts defense they probably released the consoles during the holidays because they didn't want to give Sony a head start. Just allowing Sony to have the market to themselves for an entire year would be very bad for Microsoft. I believe they made the right decision releasing the systems.
Epic Sax CEO
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Evilms
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*Image quality mode
■Ce mode focuses on improving the details of the world.
■Les shadows in high res, ambient occlusion, display distance.
■Toutes versions target 4K in dynamic. So from 1440p to 2160p.
■La S series reaches 1440p but mainly 1080p or much less.
■La PS5 version has a medium resolution and higher texture filtering.
*Resolution mode
■Cible the 4K and most often comes close to this resolution.
■La S series is most often in 1080p.
■Les details like ambient occlusion, shadows... etc. are lower than the image quality mode.
■La S series has other cut areas such as amount of grass.
*Performance mode
■Cible the 120Hz with dynamic scaling.
■900p at 1440p on average on PS5 & Series X.
■570p for Series S.
■Le level of detail on PS5 is much higher than the two Xbox versions in this mode.
■Les car details, geometric details, grass, tessellation, environmental geometry take a big hit on Xbox consoles.
■DF thinks this may be a bug. They've been told that developers are looking into it.
■Ce mode focuses on improving the details of the world.
■Les shadows in high res, ambient occlusion, display distance.
■Toutes versions target 4K in dynamic. So from 1440p to 2160p.
■La S series reaches 1440p but mainly 1080p or much less.
■La PS5 version has a medium resolution and higher texture filtering.
*Resolution mode
■Cible the 4K and most often comes close to this resolution.
■La S series is most often in 1080p.
■Les details like ambient occlusion, shadows... etc. are lower than the image quality mode.
■La S series has other cut areas such as amount of grass.
*Performance mode
■Cible the 120Hz with dynamic scaling.
■900p at 1440p on average on PS5 & Series X.
■570p for Series S.
■Le level of detail on PS5 is much higher than the two Xbox versions in this mode.
■Les car details, geometric details, grass, tessellation, environmental geometry take a big hit on Xbox consoles.
■DF thinks this may be a bug. They've been told that developers are looking into it.
GaviotaGrande
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La what.
Freelance Yakuza
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ethomaz
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It is a Spanish translation from the summary I stole from ERA.
geordiemp
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Epic Sax CEO
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And yet, the performance isn't improving as much as it should even running with lower quality, right?
Coulomb_Barrier
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Abou that.
Holy mackerel.
I know we've been conditioned at this point to view the PS5 as the most powerful console, but this is a generational gap in performance here. MS will likely patch it, but I dont think they can achieve parity as they're so far behind.
Bojanglez
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That's like a generational leap in graphics.Abou that.
Bernd Lauert
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Framerate mode on XSX seems to be running at XSS settings. Once that bug is fixed, the XSX is still the best console to play this game on if you have a VRR compatible TV. I love my LG ngl.
geordiemp
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Vaztu
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Thirty7ven
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The hits just keep on coming.
sircaw
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Jesus, that is fucking Terrible.
What a difference. That can't be like that haha, it has to be a bug. can it ?
Tripolygon
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Remember when PS4 had minor issues with low AF in some game?
skneogaf
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Resolution modes are unnecessary in my eyes as image quality mode always looks better and is very close to what the native resolution mode puts out anyway.
Soo I'm my eyes on console versions get rid of frame rate mode as next generation consoles are too weak for 120hz and get rid of native resolution mode as its pointless.
Soo I'm my eyes on console versions get rid of frame rate mode as next generation consoles are too weak for 120hz and get rid of native resolution mode as its pointless.
Black_Stride
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His Dirt 5 video obviously?
You said Forza 4, an X360 game(the best Forza game btw) but this is what Forza 4 looked like.
As I said you just forgot what that game looked like and at what resolution because at the time 720p60 was super fine.
It cant go above 120 so what improvement were you expecting exactly?
MasterCornholio
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So what happens when the PS5 gets VRR?
Will both versions be the same then?
And for those without VRR screens which versions should they pick up?
Rolla
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oldergamer
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Im curious about what they said sony is doing with torn frames. They said that ps5 is adding in duplicate frames after torn frames? How does this improve visual quality? How does that affect the frame counting?
Is this happening on other games too?
Is this happening on other games too?
Riky
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Unfortunate bug, hopefully be fixed soon.
How about PS5 framerate tanking to the low 90's though, in 120hz mode it gets outperformed by both Series X and S, I saw as low as 91fps in that one race, shocking drops and with no VRR would make the game unplayable.
Chan
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I think so too, must be a bug. But it tears even in that mode.
Bitmap Frogs
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Remember when PS4 had minor issues with low AF in some game?
This is damning and it ain't the "bugged" 120fps mode...
THE:MILKMAN
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Abou that.
DF are saying this is a bug, which would make sense as it is just so bad/obvious, but did they ask and get a response from Codemasters? Rich did say they were looking into the tone mapping bug in SDR on PS5.
oldergamer
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That does looks like a bug.I just spilled my tea. Thanks
MasterCornholio
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You ever played Bloodborne?
geordiemp
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I play on a OLED thats 2 years old, so I either play on the wolrds most powerful console or need to buy a new TV
BluRayHiDef
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There's no reason to get rid of them; extra options don't hurt.
BlueXImpulse
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The left is definitely Series X and not Series S?
Snake29
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Yet again, another win for the best place to play multiplats.
Well, it will always be the best place with the DualSense.
Coulomb_Barrier
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thugstools vs professionaltools
Ha they've even cut back the friggin grass on Xbox to keep performance up.
Insane Metal
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Another bad AF situation. As to those headlights, that's clearly an LOD bug indeed. Anyway it does seem to have the best version on PS5.
oldergamer
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Dude these are launch titles. Launch titles are never the most optimized games.
geordiemp
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Maybe devs will make ps5 render in lego mode so it can then beat xsx frame rate ?
When ps5 and XSX are rendering the same thing, ps5 is more powerful.
Rolla
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Xdrive05
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Yeah, no, that's not a bug. That's "optimization" to get the XSX to run at those frames, that they didn't need to do for PS5 to run at those frames.
"Oh look an entire rendering mode is running last gen settings. Bob forgot to carry a 1. Oh well let's ship it."
I hate to be that guy, but this sounds like DF carrying water for Microsoft.
"Oh look an entire rendering mode is running last gen settings. Bob forgot to carry a 1. Oh well let's ship it."
I hate to be that guy, but this sounds like DF carrying water for Microsoft.
BluRayHiDef
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They needed a SKU that they could price at $299; a more powerful SKU would have been too expensive. The Series S is literally the best that they could do for their targeted price point.