I'm not sure they're lunatics - there are some great people over there, after all, but the "real issue" I was trying (and perhaps failing) to get at is how the site will function moving forward. If ResetERA wants to be a platform for social change first and foremost, instead of being the mainstay forum for the gaming industry, then fine. I applaud that. People taking a stand is a positive for me because at least they're doing something. But they better decide if they're a political platform or a gaming forum sooner rather than later.
Because, to me, having trans issues become the announcer in the echo-chamber is bad only because it drowns out so many other issues. I'll defend to the death those user's rights to articulate their case (and often they have a really good one!), but god we have so many larger fish to fry than CDPR in this industry. I wasn't asking to spite people; I was asking to try and provoke a response which obviously just ... got me banned instead of instigating some communication. When a minority voice drowns out all others, to me, that is dangerous. Beware the man who has read but one book etc., etc.
So why was there no upheaval over Ubisoft games? Seems to me to be a fair question but the only people responding took the acid tab long ago, I suppose.
Ironic since they have been harassing their own members in regards to the game.![]()
The women who reviewed Cyberpunk 2077 for GameSpot and Polygon are being harassed and threatened on social media
I believe this is worthy of its own thread rather than being drowned out in other Cyberpunk threads, as it already was in the OT yesterday. For context, the GameSpot and Polygon reviews, written by Kallie Plagge and Carolyn Petit respectively, both shine a spotlight on the representation and...www.resetera.com
Here's a new thread from our favorite self-appointed white knight. Not surprisingly, much of the thread is blaming the harassment on CDPR themselves and anyone hyping the game who's not explicitly making a statement on this.
And loooooooots of "fucking gamers" self-loathing about their hobby.
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Some real gems in here.
One of her views that I thought was ridiculous that people were calling her transphobic over is the "women menstruate". If you menstruate you are biologically a woman even if you identify as a man or a two spirit rabbit. She's right. That's a fact. It's not transphobic.I mean of course, but I know a lot of trans and non-trans people (myself included) that find JK's views and endorsements as transphobic. But yeah, people, no matter what they identify as, are going to have a diversity of opinions.
Yes, era has a huge problem and it's not just the trans community or the trigger happy mods. it's the actual userbase that loves misery and wants to inflict it upon other users. I had the misfortune of getting on the wrong side of both MS and Sony fans on the site and I later found out that both sides had their discords mass reporting all of my posts criticizing either company. it's like they got off on getting people banned. Mods there have admitted that they get so many reports that they only moderate stuff that got reported instead of actually engaging in discussion and learning the posters. so when they see the same guy get reported all the time, they pull the hammer down fast.![]()
Indeed, it has.
Question: Why the fuck do so many people here make claims like "99% of resetera users are great, it's the tiny handful minority that ruins things"?
I mean look at the below thread. 8 pages of people blaming CDPR for all mean social media comments reviewers, and demanding they need to make a "statement". Not a SINGLE fucking post of pushback or mentioning how absolutely absurd this concept is. Every single person agrees that its all on CDPR's head. Na, it's not a minority. And the rest are cowards.
When I said "those people are lunatics" I was referring to Kyuuji and the other handful of fanatics.. everyone else is just rallying behind them without using an ounce of critical thought. Noone seems to recognize there are extremists in every group of people (and trans are no different). These people are looking for things to be offended by, will twist thing around inorder to be offended and if you actually analyze what they're complaining about you can clearly see that it's not rational.
Again CDPR has done nothing transphobic. There have been other trans on twitter saying the same thing. They don't agree with anything Kyuuji has complaining about.
Gamers amirite...Ironic since they have been harassing their own members in regards to the game.
Gamers amirite...
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Are you REALLY trying to equate forced slave labor in china to the massive suffering that the TransERA community has to endure on a DAILY basis in this country, ESPECIALLY when they ARE FORCED to play MASSIVELY TRANSPHOBIC GAMES on a routine basis and they get NO SUPPORT or RESPECT from the RESETERA COMMUNITY OR MODERATION TEAM?
REALLY? Is this REALLY the HILL YOU WANT TO DIE ON?
YEAH HIS POST IS TONE-DEAF AF. READ THE FUCKING ROOM.
Come on guys if you're going to make a parody and mock ResetEra then you actually have to exaggerate a little.
You're just saying stuff they'd say word for word!
Did you just assume my gender and ethnicity?Are you seriously parody policing these white male cisgendered content creators? Heterophobe!
A bit on/off topic I guess..
Why does the new Nintendo OT also come with a trans warning?
Is this a new trend? Every thread or OT has to have a trans intro?
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And why trans specifically? Why not also gay, lesbian, black?
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Banned (Permanent): Calling people gamers
Wait...did he really get permabanned for that comment or is this in jest (hard to tell these days)?
This is a great fucking post and clearly shows their hypocrisy. You've got literal slave labor in china right now and they are actually making PS5s and other consoles. No one cares over there. I mean even I dont care considering i bought three PS5s. and thats just the men. the women are getting married off to chinese men outside of their religion. literally forced rape, and again, no one cares.
everyone gets it. you cannot get outraged over every bad thing that happens on this planet. we have to keep going or we will never be happy. the problem with era is that the trans community has turned into hateful bullies. they dont give a fuck about anything other than cancelling people. cancelling games. cancelling fun. i have never seen a minority be so toxic. we went through decades of civil rights in the u.s, decades of anti-gay sentiment as well as anti-muslim fervor after 9/11, but I did not see any of these minorities behave the way these people have done.
What they did to JK rowlings is awful. All she said was that kids shouldnt be allowed to change their sex before they even hit puberty and that was apparently blasphemy. that young lesbians girls being recruited and brainwashed into getting a sex surgery is something we should look into because actual women who have done that regret ever getting a sex change.
LGBT rights in this country have never been better. their biggest fight is that people are making did you assume my gender jokes. i wonder if they have even read up on how poorly the gay community was treated after the aids epidemic.
Banned (Permanent): Objectification, Boy's club rhetoric
Taysan said:I'd be down for that too that's a great idea actually.Hilarious_Bearious said:
I can't speak for others here, but personally I'd love it if this site did a similar treatment for Ubisoft game threads. Limit to one OT, giant ass warnings at the top of every page, link to a well-written OP about the issues at hand. I'd sign that petition in blood right now.
So ... got banned from ERA ... and after a nice (kiiiinda deserved) lambasting posters are actually agreeing with my whole point ... what is this?
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For context: the kinda-stupid 800 words I posted to get banned:
So, I have been reading and reading. Damn, near a week now.
Cyberpunk 2077 is problematic and is nigh on banned from approved discussion and this situation (the polite term) has been begging the question: Has there been any discourse on how future releases are to be treated moving forward? Surely, if this CD Projekt Red game deserves this amount of scrutiny, most of the upcoming major releases should be treated the same, right? Logic would dictate. Is this enthusiast games forum open to banning discussion of, say, GTA VI? You know that game is going to be a powder keg for this community. Why hasn't discussion of Ubisoft products been banned as well for so, so, so many reasons? Fallout '76 also seemed to be problematic. Shouldn't that have been a prohibited title along with other Bethesda releases? Or on that note should not all Microsoft-published games be banned from discourse what with the ZeniMax acquisition? Guilt by association is convenient; the guillotine silences all.
One interpretation for Cyberpunk 2077 necessitating thousand-word mod posts (and lord knows how much effort and back-and-forth from the poor moderation staff) would be that trans rights seem to trump misogyny and good, old-fashioned racism on this website, though that is not my take, I see the argument and I see the debate team hats coming out. Isn't Ubisoft an equally hateful company when compared to CD Projekt Red? More so? Harry Potter games are just a given for the ban-pile, I assume, probably releasing with a promised "text-only," mod-written thread, if at all. God forbid we get a Kingdom Come sequel.
If these numerous releases are even approved for discussion, what about the users who play them and comment? Did they happen to get a copy from Amazon.com? This is a company that openly exploits its workers to the point of suicide. This is a company that uses forced-labor camps in Uighur China. Literal slave labor. Surely users who use Amazon, WalMart, Cost Co., Best Buy, LG, Toshiba, Verizon, Apple, TCL, Sony, Microsoft, Ford, Corsair, MSI, Valve, Intuit, FIS, Google, Razer, Qualcomm, Alphabet, Facebook, Instagram, Intel, AT&T, Cisco, Comcast, Toyota, GE, Adobe, Netflix, nVidia, AMD, Texas Instruments, Samsung, Insignia, General Motors, Philips, Oculus, Hewlett-Packard, or IMB products deserve a permanent ban because using these problematic company's products condones these problematic company's practices? These transgressions should surely be more prominent on this forum than say, a Mix It Up ad, the treatment of prisoner stereotypes, or sexual character designs, right? These are companies who actually make money from slave labor, yet this forum is writing 7,000-word posts about the lack of inclusiveness in a microcosm of a pass-time that requires users to throw money at the companies listed above (though, to be fair, I may have left one or two off that list but surely you get the point). This seems like a double-standard and this seems like hypocrisy and this seems like bullshit.
I guess my question is this: is equality important to the folks who frequent this website? I appreciate the political ramifications of this site's treatment of the year's biggest game release, but it needs to do the same for all titles moving forward or this becomes a hollow, one-note hill to die on, and, congratulations, people here picked a hill to die on, but it was the wrong damn hill.
And I guess my point is this: why does the opinion of a minority group get carte-blanche to dictate policy on this site, when there are issues in play that affect every single person here, not just a percentage? Where are the torches and pitchforks for the death toll a release like the PlayStation 5 induced? If you want to take a stance, good; take that stance, believe in something; fight the power. Good for you. Remember though, there are often much larger issues at play, and your time could be better spent on a street corner protesting the things you believe in rather than cross-checking which ResetERA users cross-post on NeoGAF. Set the bar a bit higher for yourself.
I mean not to belittle the politics of this community but more-so the manner in which it chooses to push them.
So. What do we do about upcoming games? Is there a discussion about this? And more importantly for the average ResetERA user: is there a transparent discussion – perhaps a sticky? - between moderation staff and the general users about what this website is rapidly devolving into that does not involve "trials by Discord," doxxing, or behind the scenes chicanery?
I'd like to know. Maybe a few others would, too.
Much love to every single one of you.
He's two faced.I'm not a huge TaySan fan
I kinda get why some of y'all were going after him so hard now
I only recognise Dumbledore. Who are the others?
Oh, I see. It's not a screenshot from Hogwarts Legacy then.
Dude was utter torture. I was amazed he was so active on this board and almost want to give him props for that alone and being open minded.I'm not a huge TaySan fan
I kinda get why some of y'all were going after him so hard now
The GameSpot girl literally said she didn't upgrade weapons, buy outfits, or do side quests because she didn't want to help the cops. Wtf? If you don't like RPGs, why the fuck are you reviewing one.
A legitimate question I never got to fire off over there: how many of you have actually been in prison?
I have. And people are really fucked up in there for the most part.
Also a decent question: does anyone in here known the difference between prison and jail? This separates some people.
If politics prevents you from doing your job then it is a problem.That's just fucking stupid, why must they ram their political agenda into *everything* ? - Politics is important, yes but it doesn't need to make up EVERY PART OF YOUR LIFE & definitely doesn't need ramming into a video game review.
A bit on/off topic I guess..
Why does the new Nintendo OT also come with a trans warning?
Is this a new trend? Every thread or OT has to have a trans intro?
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It's the assumption that I should care about this while playing that dumb game which is wrong here.