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[ULTROS!]

Era should really make a game though. Like by the members of Era, rather than explaining the morals of a game and why it’s wrong.

And watch the game fail catastrophically.

 

[Rex_DX]

g23, welcome to your new home. It is mostly nazi-free. Ish.

 

[nush]

If politics prevents you from doing your job then it is a problem.

Imagine if someone said they wouldn’t play a game and gave it a subpar review because they are conservative or a Christian. People would go nuts on them calling them all kinds of shit. This Gamespot reviewer and her SJW friends would be right there doing so! They would calling them fat and stupid and dangerous and in need of deplatforming just like “professionals” are doing to the Quartering right now.

Ive no sympathy for these pro censorship attention seeking hacks.

These "journalists" have had four years o perfect the #fuck trump "actual article" #fuck Trump for easy clicks and engagement. In four years you can hire a lot of people that think exactly like you, so you know you are right. Post election and with tough times the wakeup call is starting to happen that you're alienating half your (US) audience with that shit.

 

[ConanTheKing]

I can't really do screenshots but check out this post. Do these people always shower with their clothes on?

If you can't handle seeing your own digital avatar naked then good luck trying to get sex.

Am I missing something but why the hell am I naked in the mirror and the first time you go see the doc, in the chair when I see myself outside of my body? Is that supposed to happen or is there a settings option I can toggle? I’d prefer to see myself clothed.

Cyberpunk 2077 |OT| Welcome to Night City (READ THE OP BEFORE YOU POST) OT

Epileptic PSA: There are reports that animations and flashing lights in this game can cause seizures. Read this article for more information Why is there controversy surrounding CD Projekt Red and Cyberpunk 2077? CD Projekt Red has a history of transphobia. This is well documented at this...

www.resetera.com

 

[ULTROS!]

Oh fuck off with that oppression olympics bullshit.

Yes, trans people are ABSOLUTELY a highly marginalized group, but their visibility is also relatively new even if they've existed as long as gender has. Their suffering has been far more internal than external because dysphoria of any kind fucking sucks. This is not to downplay mental health issues, they need to be taken seriously, but when you talk about the most marginalized group out there, there's some SUPER stiff competition. Yes, it sucks that trans rights are not at the place they should be, but their right to life hasn't been threatened in the same way so many other groups have, at least not on a legislative level to any great degree. My extended family has dealt with pogrom after pogrom, and this was AFTER a few of them survived the Holocaust. And even if they want to talk about the modern day, there is an ACTIVE genocide happening in China this very instant, which is to say nothing of other global conflicts on a lesser scale.

I hate that I even have to make these comparisons because I still want progress, but when you say shit like "the most marginalized group", you gotta back that shit up. And half the time they aren't even conforming to their own alleged commitment to intersectionality and they just go "look at how oppressed this white trans trust fund kid is with a good job and large following!" That's not being progressive, it's covering your eyes and finding the easiest way to appear as so while not having to think about things too much.

I wonder if they heard of the Rohingya. Now those are very marginalized as they are stateless and killed.

 

[notseqi]

g23, welcome to your new home. It is mostly nazi-free. Ish.

'Ish'? How dare you?
I'm doing my best here, comrade.

 

[cormack12]

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I think Reeee is on suicide watch (for the 12th time).

 

[Dunki]

HUH? Did I miss something? Is Steam now offensive?

User Warned: Inappropriate terminology

Just pre-loaded on Steam - don't forget to do so fellow PCMR. More reviews are coming in with high scores despite all the bugs.

 

[cormack12]

8 million preorders, wtf

 

[Charles Brandon]

HUH? Did I miss something? Is Steam now offensive?

User Warned: Inappropriate terminology

PC master race is reppin the nazis according to them

 

[djinferno807]

HUH? Did I miss something? Is Steam now offensive?

User Warned: Inappropriate terminology

The term "PCMR" is offensive to survivors of the console wars. Please rephrase you stupid nazi.

 

[FunkMiller]

I guess their position will depend on if they're more on the liberal or conservative side. I know a lot who don't consider her to be a transphobe, but then I tend to be more on the conservative side and listen to more conservative trans people - yes they exist too.

I‘m pretty liberal, but I genuinely don’t see that the things she’s said and done have been transphobic. All I can see is that she’s trying to defend women’s rights and scientific realities. A conversation for another place and time, but I’d genuinely like to her sensible argument about why people feel,she is transphobic, without all the screeching stupidity Ive only ever encountered about this topic in the past.

One of her views that I thought was ridiculous that people were calling her transphobic over is the “women menstruate”. If you menstruate you are biologically a woman even if you identify as a man or a two spirit rabbit. She’s right. That’s a fact. It’s not transphobic.

If I am someone who (rightly) criticises people on the far right for their denial of proven, factual science (evolution through natural selection) then I would be a massive hypocrite to not also criticise people on the far left who equally deny scientific fact (human biology).

I constantly find it quite incredible that the far right and the far left have joined up in an attack on rationality and science, from their different perspectives.

 

[nush]

PC master race is reppin the nazis according to them

well, the clue was in the name...

 

[Topher]

Shit folks.....my banning suddenly seems begin

I‘m pretty liberal, but I genuinely don’t see that the things she’s said and done have been transphobic. All I can see is that she’s trying to defend women’s rights and scientific realities. A conversation for another place and time, but I’d genuinely like to her sensible argument about why people feel,she is transphobic, without all the screeching stupidity Ive only ever encountered about this topic in the past.



If I am someone who (rightly) criticises people on the far right for their denial of proven, factual science (evolution through natural selection) then I would be a massive hypocrite to not also criticise people on the far left who equally deny scientific fact (human biology).

I constantly find it quite incredible that the far right and the far left have joined up in an attack on rationality and science, from their different perspectives.

Yep. Go to far left or two far right, you'll eventually end up in the same place.

 

[ivan.k]

I think Reeee is on suicide watch (for the 12th time).

8 millions, holy shit

 

[RoyalLaFlame]

Hahahaha Kyuuji playing the game is fucking hilarious. How blind can they all be? No one has the balls to call her/him out.


Never change Kyuuji, never change. Keep being an hypocrite, we all love the show here.

Fuck, looking at that forum, I'm proud to be an altrighter. I voted left, living in a socialist/communist country, come from a socialist country, realize the struggle of minorities, against oppres...wait wat

 

[nush]

Wait for it.....

 

[kyussman]

8 million pre-orders......damn!.....good to know Era's campaign against the game has been so successful,lol.

 

[TVexperto]

this is already the 4th most successful pc launch on steam.all thanks to the free marketing from kyuuuuuni

 

[ULTROS!]

8 millions, holy shit

Maybe they meant 8 million bugs.

 

[Roger Rabbit]

Hahahaha Kyuuji playing the game is fucking hilarious. How blind can they all be? No one has the balls to call her/him out.


Never change Kyuuji, never change. Keep being an hypocrite, we all love the show here.

It's no surprise. The most rabid virtue signallers who get off on telling other people what to do can usually find an excuse for breaking their own rules.

Gotta find something to pass the time now that the thread about the actual gameplay has taken off and it's just the occasional bedwetter having a whinge in the transphobia thread.

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

"Honestly, people have been way too soft on CD Projekt RED. Their games are misogynistic and racist and now transphobic. The sex cards in W1, the brutal sexualized violence against the witches in Witcher 2, the all-whiteness of Witcher 3, and now with Cyberpunk being all about appeasing horny cis-het boys, it's high time that they're viewed as a deeply conservative video game company."

CDPR is a transphobic company. It's time we stop making excuses for them.

And I'll do that. Sorry if I offended anyone by bringing my concerns here. Just wanted to discuss the recent ruling and felt like this was the appropriate place to start a healthy discussion and atleast try to find a compromise. I've actually learned a ton about trans issues reading this whole...

www.resetera.com

 

[michaelius]

Indeed, it has.

Question: Why the fuck do so many people here make claims like "99% of resetera users are great, it's the tiny handful minority that ruins things"?

I mean look at the below thread. 8 pages of people blaming CDPR for all mean social media comments reviewers, and demanding they need to make a "statement". Not a SINGLE fucking post of pushback or mentioning how absolutely absurd this concept is. Every single person agrees that its all on CDPR's head. Na, it's not a minority. And the rest are cowards.

The women who reviewed Cyberpunk 2077 for GameSpot and Polygon are being harassed and threatened on social media

The quartering's audience is manchildren who've long since lost all sense of having an actual identity beyond vapid consumerism.

www.resetera.com

Everyone trying to defend CDP is getting banned so if you want to stay on that site you need to keep your mouth shut.

 

[ivan.k]

"Honestly, people have been way too soft on CD Projekt RED. Their games are misogynistic and racist and now transphobic. The sex cards in W1, the brutal sexualized violence against the witches in Witcher 2, the all-whiteness of Witcher 3, and now with Cyberpunk being all about appeasing horny cis-het boys, it's high time that they're viewed as a deeply conservative video game company."

CDPR is a transphobic company. It's time we stop making excuses for them.

And I'll do that. Sorry if I offended anyone by bringing my concerns here. Just wanted to discuss the recent ruling and felt like this was the appropriate place to start a healthy discussion and atleast try to find a compromise. I've actually learned a ton about trans issues reading this whole...

www.resetera.com

Bunch of virgins convinced themselves that sex is bad.

 

[BadBurger]

Wait for it.....

You know that guy is super unemployed. Like negative employed, on disability unemployed.

 

[Gifmaker]

Wait for it.....

Pity. This read like a thought-out and kinda reasonable post, until that last sentence, where he reveals his generalizing mentality. So his entire argument was insincere from the start as well, all because he wanted to close with a middlefinger to GAF. Hey Yossarian, newsflash for you: typing posts on a videogame forum is not "fighting a fight". Also, citations needed please on how trans people are directly affected by CP2077. Like, please explain in detail the chain of events that leads from people playing a videogame to trans people supposedly being killed in the streets. Also, not stopping a crime does not necessarily make you complicit in it. This point of your argument is wrong, too. It's that fucked up "all or nothing", "with us or against us" mentality. Which is wrong. Full stop. I can entirely not engage in your so-called "battles" and still not be your enemy. As I can work towards the same goals as you without being your ally at all. Grow the fuck up.

 

[nush]

You know that guy is super unemployed. Like negative employed, on disability unemployed.

Another reetard that's a valuable member of society.

 

[Ronja Räubertochter]

I've also signed up here because of my experiences on resetera. First I was quite sold on the idea of a rather left-leaning forum but good lord, these are not leftist who are dominating the discourse on that forum but full out crazy people. They constantly whine and insult in their big CDPR-hate thread, banning anyone who even slightly diverges from the party line and have the moronic audacity to wonder why their "discussion" doesn't catch fire in the mainstream game media. Honestly, I'm all for social justice but if Cyberpunk 2077 with their explicit possibilities to create your character outside the gender norms is treated as transphobic then everything is transphobic. And even on the warning-label infected new official CP2077 thread people won't just discuss the game, they draw a direct line from CDPR's alleged transphobia to the bugs and glitches of the the release version of the game. It's exhausting. I've observed NeoGaf for a couple of days and didn't see anything like the sturmfront right-wing mob its painted as on resetera so I've decided to come here. Thanks for having me.

 

[Saruhashi]

LOL. Character Creation in Cubepunk.

"Other characters will refer to V with male pronouns (ie He/Him)"

I reckon this is the first time I've ever seen a video game even acknowledge the "pronouns" thing.

The game allows you to assign masculine or feminine voice tone to your character regardless of body type. Pronouns are connected to voice tone.

Again, I am not sure I've ever seen this in a game, for sure not in AAA.

So they are actually dragging and banning discussion on one of the very VERY few games that actually tries to provide something that they've always wanted.

Hilarious.

 

[M1chl]

Wait....are you trolling or something?

 

[nush]

Wait....are you trolling or something?

Nooo, it's really real.

 

[lunnuyu]

i hear some angry screams over at ResetEra

 

[nush]

Pity. This read like a thought-out and kinda reasonable post, until that last sentence, where he reveals his generalizing mentality. So his entire argument was insincere from the start as well, all because he wanted to close with a middlefinger to GAF. Hey Yossarian, newsflash for you: typing posts on a videogame forum is not "fighting a fight". Also, citations needed please on how trans people are directly affected by CP2077. Like, please explain in detail the chain of events that leads from people playing a videogame to trans people supposedly being killed in the streets. Also, not stopping a crime does not necessarily make you complicit in it. This point of your argument is wrong, too. It's that fucked up "all or nothing", "with us or against us" mentality. Which is wrong. Full stop. I can entirely not engage in your so-called "battles" and still not be your enemy. As I can work towards the same goals as you without being your ally at all. Grow the fuck up.

Check out the replies.

 

[Bulby]

Jesus f'ing Christ. First off, I havnt been back of Gaf in years. Ive used Resetera for news since its launch.

Ive just been looking for Cyberpunk impressions cause Im on the fence about the game. I guess Im pretty behind on all the uproar about this game.

Try to read the OT but its got more warning signs than I care to scroll through. I check the Kinda Funny OT as Im a fan of their vids. It just been people blasting them for not bringing up trans issues in their impressions. I go to the Easy Allies OT, someone in there is also blasting them for not bringing up the trans issues.

Its. fucking. bonkers.

The site has always been nuts. Ive been banned multiple times. For hilarious reasons. Most recently I got a body shaming warning for asking why Boba Fett is now so fat. And it wasnt just a warning. I had to 'agree' to their warning to get this giant paragraph off the top of every page.

But I have never seen them go this hard with shutting down anything that doesnt 100% agree with them or talk about the exact things that they want to hear. Its fucking absurd.

 

[Daffy Duck]

wait what?

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Every time I watch this scene from American Psycho, it reminds me of Era...



Anyone else feel it?

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

Pity. This read like a thought-out and kinda reasonable post, until that last sentence, where he reveals his generalizing mentality. So his entire argument was insincere from the start as well, all because he wanted to close with a middlefinger to GAF. Hey Yossarian, newsflash for you: typing posts on a videogame forum is not "fighting a fight". Also, citations needed please on how trans people are directly affected by CP2077. Like, please explain in detail the chain of events that leads from people playing a videogame to trans people supposedly being killed in the streets. Also, not stopping a crime does not necessarily make you complicit in it. This point of your argument is wrong, too. It's that fucked up "all or nothing", "with us or against us" mentality. Which is wrong. Full stop. I can entirely not engage in your so-called "battles" and still not be your enemy. As I can work towards the same goals as you without being your ally at all. Grow the fuck up.

Look how the freaks are patting themselves on the back tyring to convince themselves they "won" the argument, especially now that the guy got banned. Wow, they sure showed him... delusional idiots.

 

[Guileless]

Gender identity zealots endlessly shouting about ''trans people being killed in the streets due to a videogame' are doing actual harm by needlessly terrifying mentally ill people.

 

[Petaya Berry]

I think that "whataboutism" is a falacy, but that happens all the time on Resetera when is convenient for them.

But not when someone uses that to some logic.

O'brien would be proud.

 

[Kayhan]

 

[Gifmaker]

Look how the freaks are patting themselves on the back tyring to convince themselves they "won" the argument, especially now that the guy got banned. Wow, they sure showed him... delusional idiots.

It's really ironic. REEE is the most bigoted place I've seen yet on the internet, and they don't even realize it. They should take a step back and realize that if you are frothing at the mouth out of bloodlust and the wish to murder your enemies, maaaaaybe you are not exactly the good guys. But it's okay because the people they want dead so desperately are evil. Because the world is so black and white.

 

[Buggy Loop]

wait what?

Oh you did not know? Kyuuji, who is playing the game non stop, even changed time zones to play early, got her copy from a code gift. Probably one of her loyalists, so that she does not appear to be participating into buying a vile product from « FUCK CDPR ».

 

[DeadMansParty]

Reeee: 8 million nazis preordered Cyberpunk, I just want to say fuck you to all those white supremacists out there who have killed us trans people with this game.

 

[RJMacready73]

Thought id mosey on over to the cuntdump and check out a few threads on Cyberpunk to see if the loons are getting their knickers in a twist cause its not representational enough or other such shite and came across this absolute fucking cracker on the front page that really just sums up that fucking cesspit..

Insomniacs "Spider-Man" representation of prisoners is extremely outdated.

Insomniacs "Spider-Man" representation of prisoners is extremely irking to me. When playing Miles Morales the other day I realized that almost anyone in an orange jumpsuit is hype aggressive and ready to fight Spiderman on a whim. This pushes the stereotype that all felons are dangerous monsters who are too dangerous to ever be on the streets. Similar issues exist in the Arkham games but it continues to irk me to see every criminal represented as an overly violent killer. This irresponsible representation existed in the original Spiderman too where, even worse, a real world location "Rykers Island" served as a level where every criminal was attempting to break free and kill you and cops. As a life long New Yorker who knows people who have been to Rykers for low level drug crimes, people who wouldn't harm a fly it's weird how insomniac essentially pushes these very outdated views of prisoners in their game. https://www.resetera.com/threads/in...on-of-prisoners-is-extremely-outdated.341179/

I mean what the absolute fuck... are these actual people!?? its a fucking comic book videogame set in a comicbook world where the prisoners happen to be the bad guys and mr fucking noncehead is getting upset that the representation isnt inline with the lovely people he knows that have been banged up for kiddie porn... what is with these people!??! im too fucking old for this shit or am i really this out of touch with you fucking young'uns

 

[Dunki]

LOL they are now going Straight up NAZI

So when do we finally make gamers a second class citizen? Anyone claiming to be a gamer should be forced to wear an armbinder in public, they have to live in Ready Player One inspired slums and their only method of internet connection are government issues 56k Modems, where the dial up tone is programmed to be twice as long just out of spite.

The women who reviewed Cyberpunk 2077 for GameSpot and Polygon are being harassed and threatened on social media

CDPR are intelligent, internet savvy people. They actively cultivated this audience, they helped amplify it to churn up hype for their edgy video game. The idea that they wouldn't understand the consequences of doing this is laughable.

www.resetera.com

 

[Buggy Loop]

Gender identity zealots endlessly shouting about ''trans people being killed in the streets due to a videogame' are doing actual harm by needlessly terrifying mentally ill people.

Is this even a thing in North America? The killing in the streets because you are trans I mean. I’ll be honest, I don’t know. I lived in Montréal a few streets from the gay village a good part of my life, one of the most accepted place for LGBT+ on earth.

 

[Dunki]

Is this even a thing in North America? The killing in the streets because you are trans I mean. I’ll be honest, I don’t know. I lived in Montréal a few streets from the gay village a good part of my life, one of the most accepted place for LGBT+ on earth.

NO It is not. Like 500 Trans people were killed worldwide this year.

The surge of violence against transgender people in the United States has passed a grim milestone. In just seven months, the number of transgender people suspected of being murdered in 2020 has surpassed the total for all of 2019. At least 28 transgender people have been murdered, or their death is suspicious, so far this year compared to 26 last year

Murders of Transgender People in 2020 Surpasses Total for Last Year In Just Seven Months

The surge of violence against transgender people in the United States has passed a grim milestone. In just seven months, the number of transgender people suspected of being murdered in 2020 has surpassed the total for all of 2019.

transequality.org

It is the same bullshit as with black unarmed people getting killed by police. They do not care about actual numbers and statistics

 

[RJMacready73]

NO It is not. Like 500 Trans people were killed worldwide this year.



It is the ame bullshit as with black unarmed people getting killed by police. They do not care about actual numbers and statistics

you cant be using facts round here.. oh wait we can handle fucking statistics in this place but dont be posting fucking facts over there

 

[Slurpy2k20]

Ladies and gentlemen, your resetera word of the day is:

Cultivate.
cul·ti·vate
/ˈkəltəˌvāt/
Learn to pronounce

Here we go....