TLOU Remake PS5 Footage
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MasterCornholio
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I think you need to learn what a remaster is first.
mckmas8808
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These type of responses are my top 5 most hated viewpoints by the gaming community. It's so ridiculous that it's mindblowing that people like this exist sometimes. It's a freaking remake of a game. They made a better version of one of the best games of that generation. They are selling it soon......BIG DEAL! If this is a cash grab, then practically every remake is a cash grab. Like what the hell are we talking about here?
Do we like games or do we not like games?
squidilix
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You mixing some FMV with GameplayGame looked great on PS3. Best looking game of that entire generation.
But I don't think anyone's saying the PS5 version doesn't look better than the PS3 version. It's just not a 2x generational gap (PS3 to PS5), it's Factionless, and costs more in terms of retail price than the PS3/4 versions.
In my opinion it's indisputable that the PS4 version's cutscenes are better than these real time character model equivalents on PS5. The character models look off in this version.
Overall, I don't see the point in the existence of this game. ND are doing nothing except risking fatigue (TLOU2, TLOU RR and then Factions all within a 2-3 year period).
Many people forget 90% of cinematics on TLOU1 is full FMV on PS3 and PS4... on TLOUp2 and TLOUp1 they are full real-time rendering
Salz01
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I know of topic, but wish they would release a 60fps patch on current gen.This one gives me strong Mafia Remake vibes. Just add some color.
mckmas8808
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Tommi84
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But most of the pictures are from rendered cut-scenes and not realtime. The last one seems to be gameplay and the difference is clear.
GymWolf
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Bigger sandboxy locations maybe.
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Banjo64
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I know, that's why I said;
In my opinion it's indisputable that the PS4 version's cutscenes are better than these real time character model equivalents on PS5. The character models look off in this version.
I don't care if it's real time cutscenes or not, just whichever one looks best - and the cutscenes in the PS4 version look better than the PS5 version.
The difference in gameplay is clear, but not 2 generations clear.
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Topher
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That would make sense as Part 2 had larger areas like that.
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DeepEnigma
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"Cash grab" is the new meme in the great console war. For something nobody forces you to buy with a gun to your head. In a corporatized industry under a capitalistic economy, no less.
Pedro Motta
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It's funny as hell, everyone saying this is PS4 tech, but no other platform has a game that looks better than this one with PS4 tech. lol
mckmas8808
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Yes. This is how mad I am right now:
Sure. We all know you are scared that this "Remake" may sell more than your favorite game this year. Let that fear go.
I see. I didn't realize last week that it's a new thing "they" are using nowadays. I've never seen so many people so made at a remake in my life.
Banjo64
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Even Sony's own Horizon Forbidden West looks more current gen. And that game is open world with dynamic lighting.
You must be confusing me with someone else. I know it's difficult right now with so many people with the same avatar. Better luck next time. I have no doubt that this remake will sell very well. I'm buying it day one, when it releases "shortly thereafter" on PC to get that definitive experience.
crunchyBiscuits
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And it's not like anyone is being forced to buy anything either lmao. It must be 20 bucks because I own and played the last two versions!
Good! Go play those last 2 versions, then!
Ellery
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Naughty Dog threads on Neogaf are pretty wild and in recent years the hatred sadly has amplified (everywhere. not just Playstation threads) where a war is fought and the ammunition is overblown opinions that have completely lost it's relevance to reality, but only act as moving the goalpost into the opposite direction to bring balance to the perception of games and consoles.
Somebody does something? Lets go nitpick and be mad in every single thread regarding <insert topic> even though something is completely optional and I am not even interested in to begin with.
Sad state of affairs.
ChiefDada
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I love HFW and it is very accomplished visually but c'mon this is silly. And I wouldn't even expect it to be better fidelity wise since it's open world as you mentioned.
Bruno_Arrais85
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70 bucks for the same game?
Topher
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Incorrect
"We've implemented modernized gameplay, improved controls, and expanded accessibility options in this single-player experience to allow even more individuals to enjoy the game. Effects, exploration, and combat have all been enhanced. Leveraging the PS5's powerful hardware, we also implemented 3D Audio*, haptics, and adaptive triggers. Both returning fans and new players alike will have the opportunity to experience both The Last of Us Part I and its prequel story Left Behind in a whole new way. "
The Growing Future of The Last of Us
The latest on the upcoming online experience, The Last of Us on HBO, and The Last of Us Part I.
blog.playstation.com
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MasterCornholio
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I have my doubts on that since TLOU Remake isn't open world. More linear games tend to have better visuals. If the Remake is built from the ground up it can definitely surpass HFW in terms of visuals. But of course HFW is still extremely impressive especially on PS5.
baphomet
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They're not making an entire new lighting system for only the PC version.
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Luckily we don't have to wait long to find out. Judging based on the material showed us so far (official or not), Forbidden West definitely looks more impressive. From character models to environments, foliage, you name it. Remake is made using last gen tech and it shows. I'd like to be proven wrong by some crazy impressive gameplay demo released by ND.
TheTony316
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You mean the same company that sold cardboard for $60? Idk about that, lol.
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MidGenRefresh
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Game looked great on PS3. Best looking game of that entire generation.
But I don't think anyone's saying the PS5 version doesn't look better than the PS3 version. It's just not a 2x generational gap (PS3 to PS5), it's Factionless, and costs more in terms of retail price than the PS3/4 versions.
In my opinion it's indisputable that the PS4 version's cutscenes are better than these real time character model equivalents on PS5. The character models look off in this version.
Overall, I don't see the point in the existence of this game. ND are doing nothing except risking fatigue (TLOU2, TLOU RR and then Factions all within a 2-3 year period).
Original game had an amazing art style. Whoever was responsible for it... bravo.
SlimySnake
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Not everything, but textures and lighting literally make up 90% of what you see on screen and in FPS games, 100%. Dont care much about detail, MGS2 has more little details than most games released today. Im glad ND puts a lot of care into their art, but we are talking about next gen fidelity here.
TLOU2's character models might be more detailed in cutscenes but in gameplay I dont see a big upgrade over what we see in DS. The problem with DS is that they force you to play in non-human form with a stupid white aura around your half invisible character to reduce difficulty and it really hurts the graphics. The gameplay character models (not faces) are very comparable if not better than the TLOU2.
EverydayBeast
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A lot of remakes are ok'd by corporations.
Pedro Motta
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They both look great given their different approaches to art direction. Each one is unmatched on other platforms. I don't get the unfounded criticism.
GymWolf
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The human models in the hub like the black dude in armour or the lady (or really everyone) are pretty meh if i remember well, especially the faces, the highest definition helps but they are still not what i expect from a full nextgen game.Not everything, but textures and lighting literally make up 90% of what you see on screen and in FPS games, 100%. Dont care much about detail, MGS2 has more little details than most games released today. Im glad ND puts a lot of care into their art, but we are talking about next gen fidelity here.
TLOU2's character models might be more detailed in cutscenes but in gameplay I dont see a big upgrade over what we see in DS. The problem with DS is that they force you to play in non-human form with a stupid white aura around your half invisible character to reduce difficulty and it really hurts the graphics. The gameplay character models (not faces) are very comparable if not better than the TLOU2.
Tbh i wasn't that impressed with demons, it still looked extremely gamey for lack of better words, ratchet and horizon are way more impressive, and morales is not that far.
Tlou2 run on a ps4, the fact that we even have this discussion is pretty telling imo.
SlimySnake
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Thats because no matter what Jimbo and Drunckmann claims, this is NOT a PS5 game. It's a PS4 project that was started by a support studio and then taken over by ND because Neil and other ND heads had fucking nothing for them to work on. This was never a PS5 game.
Just because they are selling it as a next gen title doesnt mean much. Godfail, Deathpoop and Shitwire Tokyo were all sold as NEXT GEN only exclusives and they all look worse than every single Sony cross gen game released in the last 9 years.
This is what KZSF looked like on launch day 9 years ago.
This is Deathloop on PS5.
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Dont believe their lies. ND hasnt lost talent or skill in the last 2 years. They are just held back by a 2011 mid gen GPU and a trash netbook CPU. Once they finally release a next gen only game, it will be one of the best if not THE best looking game on consoles.
DeepEnigma
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Holy maxing gamma sliders, batman.Not everything, but textures and lighting literally make up 90% of what you see on screen and in FPS games, 100%. Dont care much about detail, MGS2 has more little details than most games released today. Im glad ND puts a lot of care into their art, but we are talking about next gen fidelity here.
TLOU2's character models might be more detailed in cutscenes but in gameplay I dont see a big upgrade over what we see in DS. The problem with DS is that they force you to play in non-human form with a stupid white aura around your half invisible character to reduce difficulty and it really hurts the graphics. The gameplay character models (not faces) are very comparable if not better than the TLOU2.
And yes, the facial animations alone on the TLoU2 gameplay models are still leagues better than anything out there. And better than most game's cutscene animations.
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Both look great. One looks like a game from last generation and one looks like a game from this generation. Nobody is criticizing anything.
I already explained why some people might have problem with the remake. They want to charge you current-gen price for a last-gen effort.
I couldn't care less. I will still buy it on PC because seeing Sony catalogue in my Steam library gives me an unhealthy satisfaction (plus it will be like ~40 EUR on CDkeys, so why not). Actually, after
Banjo64
posted screens of the PS4 remaster I will also buy that on the PS5 in case Sony gets any stupid ideas to de-list it. Art style on display there is amazing. A+++
Ezquimacore
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At least it was new cardboard
Banjo64
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That was the PS3 version I posted. But yeah, defo buy the PS4 version.Both look great. One looks like a game from last generation and one looks like a game from this generation. Nobody is criticizing anything.
I already explained why some people might have problem with the remake. They want to charge you current-gen price for a last-gen effort.
I couldn't care less. I will still buy it on PC because seeing Sony catalogue in my Steam library gives me an unhealthy satisfaction (plus it will be like ~40 EUR on CDkeys, so why not). Actually, after
Negotiator101
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It's already been reported that you get controls and movement from TLOU2 and the AI. With the new movement from 2 included (prone etc) they've expanded and altered some environments to accommodate that.
This is not a simple remake it's more a reimagining without changing the core story.
Negotiator101
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They are in it, the AI from TLOU2 (which is what they're using in this is far superior. Also the movement and control improvements have also been brought over from 2.
TintoConCasera
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Real curious to see the gameplay and how it fares against the original/remaster.
fun fact: I found it because it was already used here in GAF.
fun fact: I found it because it was already used here in GAF.
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Topher
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Both look great. One looks like a game from last generation and one looks like a game from this generation. Nobody is criticizing anything.
I already explained why some people might have problem with the remake. They want to charge you current-gen price for a last-gen effort.
I couldn't care less. I will still buy it on PC because seeing Sony catalogue in my Steam library gives me an unhealthy satisfaction (plus it will be like ~40 EUR on CDkeys, so why not). Actually, after
For me the updated graphics isn't the key selling point here. First and foremost is the gameplay. If ND is truly incorporating TLOU 2 gameplay then that's a major upgrade. ND still needs to flesh that out though. They need to sell us on the enhancements beyond just the graphics. They can price it at $70 if they want but no one has to buy it and I think it could flop if the changes they are incorporating don't measure up. But I think it is far too premature for anyone to be calling this a "cash grab" when we factually do not know the exact details of what is being enhanced. If it is what I imagine, TLOU 2 gameplay/AI with larger spaces to explore and all the weapon modifications then that will absolutely be worth $70 for me and I don't consider that a "last-gen effort".
rabbity-thing
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I feel like all of this would be a non-issue if they had just charged 30 bucks for the new remaster/remake. There was clearly a lot of work put into it, but not to the tune of a next-gen 70 dollar premium. The existence of the game isn't a cash grab per se, but the laughable price point they have chosen is. Just don't buy it at launch and wait for a sale. That's what I'm going to do.
MiguelItUp
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Oh no expectations here, but it would've been nice to see it. Still definitely curious. But I never expected to be blown away or something.
DeepEnigma
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It's an TLoU thread. There will always be issues.
SlimySnake
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Plus the PC version just might have ray tracing. Returnal's PC port is already adding it. It's possible Nixxes might add ray tracing to TLOU2 remake as well.I couldn't care less. I will still buy it on PC because seeing Sony catalogue in my Steam library gives me an unhealthy satisfaction (plus it will be like ~40 EUR on CDkeys, so why not). Actually, after
Oh I agree that its not NEXT GEN. Clearly looks inferior to the Matrix. Im just saying in comparison to TLOU2, it looks better thanks to the lighting and textures.
BP's interview with DF stated that they were using the PS5 IO to push something crazy like 4 GBps of data from the SSD to RAM at any given moment. Dont think you can do that on the PS4. That said, these Sony devs have been making misleading statements all gen so now im not so sure. At this point, lets just wait and see if they can at least match the original TLOU2 gameplay trailer visuals and animations. The character models of enemies got a major downgrade in the final game as well as the motion matching animations (apologies to that Ubisoft dev who called BS on that and was flamed by us all). I hope the GI also gets an improvement. It's possible that they took out prone for gameplay reasons but man if they take out dodging and dont add that dodge into car animation back in the game then Im gonna riot.
That looks much better. the lighting alone gives it much more depth and clarity. Always felt this scene was flat environmentally in the original. Joel's back doesn't look much different to be fair, but what more can you do to improve a tartan shirt?
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SlimySnake
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Add hero lighting. Also use better more detailed textures.
And yes, Boston looked straight up ugly in the original. Here it looks gorgeous and reminds me of The Order.
MidGenRefresh
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Yep.
We might have different definitions of generations. TLOU 2 is literally a last generation game. If TLOU 1 remake incorporates the same gameplay and AI it makes it a last generation effort.
It would be nice if Naughty Dog released a gameplay overview video to clear things up.
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This make-up suits you well. Your username might be DeepEnigma but your posts are as deep as a puddle and enigmatic only for the wrong reasons. I suggest a rebrand to ShallowConfusion.
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