OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Who is this Lulu? She comes off as nothing more than a cheerleader.
Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
We don't need semantics.
The "enthusiasts" will be a dying breed. They don't want physical, MS laid those cards on the table too soon in 2013. Companies had to back it up a bit and do the death by 1000 cuts approach.
Unknown Soldier
Member
LOL this is the same EU that is forcing Apple to allow sideloading on iOS that's going to be super fun when the first virus gets distributed that way
LordCBH
Member
PC. But do go on. Regale us with more bullshit of how this anti-consumer merger will benefit us all.
graywolf323
Member
so the EU basically came to the same conclusions as CMA but decided it was okay for Microsoft to build a monopoly and possibly harm competitors because hey they offered 10 year deals (that from what we've found out weren't very fair in the first place)?
wow…
wow…
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
Yeah there's always lawyers on both sides of any dispute and lawyers will argue any side for the right amount of money
He's not an expert on this matter. Just a lawyer with opinion like anyone else
jm89
Member
If sociopath had a human form.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Activision/MSFT's AOC persona for the gen z derps.
As someone who has actually used streaming services over the last few years, the EU almost has this right. They just need to remove the 10 year time limit and push it to all puiblishers. If I could buy a game on steam/psn/xbox and then have a license to use it on any streaming service I want this benefits me the consumer. That's what all this shit is supposed to be about right?
Dick Jones
Banned
Romania,She added emoji flags, so precious
she means Ukraine 
It's a joke about the Star Trek Enterprise logo cloud company
suspicious mind
Member
EU coming with facts and common sense as expected. Uk went full retard with brexit and blocking this.
Now it will get really political. The fact that 1 regulator can block deals like this is simply not tenable.
The cma wanted to block this deal from the beginning and were looking for excuses its painfully obvious.
Now it will get really political. The fact that 1 regulator can block deals like this is simply not tenable.
The cma wanted to block this deal from the beginning and were looking for excuses its painfully obvious.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They want sideloading so they have an easier time getting into your shit, Orwellian big brother style.
By the time 10 years .Sony might control the market anyway
splattered
Member
What a wild ride this has been.... i LOVE it haha
In the end maybe CMA is the only one blocking it? Who knows.
Maybe in the end MS actually gets this to go through somehow and heads implode across the internet.
Fun times.
In the end maybe CMA is the only one blocking it? Who knows.
Maybe in the end MS actually gets this to go through somehow and heads implode across the internet.
Fun times.
Topher
Identifies as young
Because they can't yank those licenses back after 10 years and force everyone to use their cloud services going forward if they want to continue to stream those games.
Wonderful contribution to the thread.....as always.
Pelta88
Member
Note Lulu's change in tone.
Previously she hasn't slighted the UK regulators. Now she's doing it in a round about way, fully ware that without the CMA the deal is still dead. I'm guessing somebody, somewhere, told her to sit her goofy ass down somewhere. That or she's reading gaf's acquisition thread extensively.
Previously she hasn't slighted the UK regulators. Now she's doing it in a round about way, fully ware that without the CMA the deal is still dead. I'm guessing somebody, somewhere, told her to sit her goofy ass down somewhere. That or she's reading gaf's acquisition thread extensively.
Lol. People here really think that remedies means that Microsoft needs to provide free access to COD for PS Plus?
Nope. It just means that if Sony has cloud service that lets you play games that you own (outside of PS Plus library) and you own COD on your PSN account, Microsoft can't block access to COD through PS streaming.
Same for PC based sub services. If you own your game on Steam/Battle.net and you have cloud service like GeForce Now/Boosteroid, Microsoft needs to provide free license. Which is literally how GeForce Now is working now.
Nope. It just means that if Sony has cloud service that lets you play games that you own (outside of PS Plus library) and you own COD on your PSN account, Microsoft can't block access to COD through PS streaming.
Same for PC based sub services. If you own your game on Steam/Battle.net and you have cloud service like GeForce Now/Boosteroid, Microsoft needs to provide free license. Which is literally how GeForce Now is working now.
Topher
Identifies as young
If the FTC agrees? Where you been?
splattered
Member
This doesn't negate the CMA's decision so.....
Dunno... aint over till it's over i suppose.
People on here thought for SURE EU was also gonna block it, so i guess now in Microsoft's eyes there's still hope.
And they have more than enough cash and time to burn trying to turn it around.
Nothing1234
Banned
Another year of this is so funny.
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
The first FTC hearing will start in August. CTA appeal will take 1.5 to 3 years.
EC was never relevant. That's why Brad and Lulu went nuclear on UKs decision. It basically tanked any sensible timeline and almost nullified any chances to proceed.
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James Sawyer Ford
Banned
Most thought they'd approve it
If this decision mattered, Activision stock would have popped 15% today
Why 15% specifically? I'm curious as to how you modelled the fair price assuming the risk of failing a UK appeal.
Dick Jones
Banned
The deadline for the deal is July. ABK get 3bn if either Bobby or Lulu aren't responsible for fucking up the deal. Unless MS want to add another good few billion to that 3bn for ABK to continue the fight afterwards.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Depends on how confident Activision shareholders are with the appeal. They may not renew it which will lock their marketing rights/deals down for the next few years.
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Kilau
Member
Seems to be a modification of "extend" but with the same goal.
Kittehkraken
Member
I love how people are cheerleading the EU for common sense when they came to pretty much the same conclusion as the CMA regarding cloud gaming.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I love how people are cheerleading the EU for common sense when they came to pretty much the same conclusion as the CMA about cloud gaming.
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
I meant to say that if this EC decision created a substantial increase in likelihood of the deal passing it would bring Activision stock much closer to Microsoft's $95 purchase price, hence 15% increase
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
recognize your errors ya'll
Topher
Identifies as young
Eh....."people" have been speculating for months now so not sure where any of the "for sure gonna block" comes from. Ultimately, that "hope" begins and ends with CMA. Many of us were saying that even after the FTC decided to block the merger.
Ar¢tos
Member
Well well well, look who crawled out of a cave to post here after nearly 1 month of silence...
The fact that 1 regulator can block the deal is part of the acquisition contract, since it has to be approved by 4 specific regulators, so it was a known risk for both MS and ATK.
If MS didn't want the risk they could simply not go through the acquisition attempt.
dotnotbot
Member
recognize your errors ya'll
CATribunal probably isn't impressed by some no name clown @ them for no reason either.
suspicious mind
Member
All eyes on the cma now. There will be discussions about them killing off jobs and investments.
LordCBH
Member
Some poor social media manager probably logging on after getting a cup of coffee to see this psychopath popping off
HoofHearted
Member
Sure - I expect that when the remaining decisions from FTC, etc., are finalized - and assuming that "if" they're approved aligned with similar remedies - that we'll see the CAT appeal focus on the "irrational" aspect of the CMA decision....
But who knows?
More importantly ... Back to ma bourbon..
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Explain.
I love how people are cheerleading the EU for common sense when they came to pretty much the same conclusion as the CMA regarding cloud gaming.
The EU regulator applied the tools available to address it's concern for a long enough timeframe for the rest of the market to react. A decade is also enough time for the EU to craft new rules regarding digital licenses to further assauge it's concerns. The UK's decision to block the deal makes very little sense by comparison.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
that is very suspicious for you to think.
jm89
Member
Microsoft backs UK start-up in latest AI push
Microsoft splurged an undisclosed sum of equity investment in UK-based AI developer Builder.ai under a broader strategic partnership.
www.mobileworldlive.com
suspicious mind
Member
Thx for being so interested in what i have to say and why i havent said anything. Seems like you missed me.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Why? FTC case won't be heard until August.
The eyes should be on Activision, come July they have to make a decision.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
No no no, not those jobs.Microsoft backs UK start-up in latest AI push
Microsoft splurged an undisclosed sum of equity investment in UK-based AI developer Builder.ai under a broader strategic partnership.
Ignoring that these large acquisitions always come with lay offs and downsizing certain areas. Remember the 10K recently that impacted ZeniMax/Bethesda and many other Xbox areas?
Topher
Identifies as young
I think it is going to be harder to convince CAT that the CMA's decision is "irrational" when EC agrees with CMA on the danger to competition. Remember, CAT cannot overrule the remedy.
Varteras
Member
The jobs of Phil Spencer and Bobby Kotick man! THINK OF THEIR CHILDREN!
EU approving with remedies was a likely outcome. They're in general more open to behavioural remedies.
They still had the same concerns as the CMA, they just disagreed with the extent of the solution. This also means that it will hard for MS going to CAT and tell them that CMA's investigation was irrational.
The decision won't change the outcome for MS/Activision because CMA has blocked and FTC wants to block.
The problem is still the same, in July they will have to decide if it's worth going through at least an other year of this with no certainty of a positive outcome.
With CMA already slamming EU for their decision they're pretty much telling them they won't change their idea.
They still had the same concerns as the CMA, they just disagreed with the extent of the solution. This also means that it will hard for MS going to CAT and tell them that CMA's investigation was irrational.
The decision won't change the outcome for MS/Activision because CMA has blocked and FTC wants to block.
The problem is still the same, in July they will have to decide if it's worth going through at least an other year of this with no certainty of a positive outcome.
With CMA already slamming EU for their decision they're pretty much telling them they won't change their idea.
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Ronin_7
Member
FTC is blocking the trial is In August.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
$185m reasons!!!
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