ShaiKhulud1989
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Well, who said that he is a GOOD acquisition lawyer? Let alone the one who have dealt with this amounts of money and regulation hurdles.Gotta love the "acquisition lawyer doesn't know what he's talking about" takes
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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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DeepEnigma
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Both already do.
Nothing1234
Banned
CMA doubling down, love to see it.
I guess he's only a BAD lawyer when he says things some people don't wanna hear....
dotnotbot
Member
Gotta love the "acquisition lawyer doesn't know what he's talking about" takes
Well, there were other acquistion lawyers saying CMA's expertise has no match and is considered the best in general so opinion is just an opinion.
Topher
Identifies as young
Somehow he is entirely oblivious that the EC is in 100% agreement with the CMA in the threat to competition in cloud gaming. The disagreement is in the remedies.
You didn't read what I said. Factually, Microsoft will be able to change or negate these deals after the 10 years has expired. There is nothing not true about that.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
I can see that both Bill Gates and Margrethe Vestager are in the Trilateral Commission - ain't that convenient...
Bill Gates, too? Well, that makes this ruling (potentially) very "convenient" indeed.
Almost as if something else other than the actual merits of the deal were considered in making the decision. Something you can probably do a lot of shopping with, now what would that be?
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Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
What I find most fascinating is (from the Verge article) that
This in theory (if not limited to 10 years) would be awesome and almost paves the way for universal game licenses. I wonder in practice though what value this has if MS don't make versions of the game for Linux and MacOS (or any other OS you can think of) and potentially does things like alter DirectX ways that keeps games unplayable on alternatives using compatibility layers.
This in theory (if not limited to 10 years) would be awesome and almost paves the way for universal game licenses. I wonder in practice though what value this has if MS don't make versions of the game for Linux and MacOS (or any other OS you can think of) and potentially does things like alter DirectX ways that keeps games unplayable on alternatives using compatibility layers.
LordCBH
Member
I guess he's only a BAD lawyer when he says things some people don't wanna hear....
Unfortunately for him, the CMA’s decision holds more weight than his analysis from across the Atlantic.
GHG
Gold Member
Oh......so now Hoeg weighs in?
This can only mean one thing, you know who's about to come back right?
Topher
Identifies as young
I guess he's only a BAD lawyer when he says things some people don't wanna hear....
You only think he is a GOOD lawyer when he says things you wanna hear...
Yep.....that's pretty much how lawyers work.
Nothing1234
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ChorizoPicozo
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nah. you are not.
X-Wing
Member
Neither Sony nor Nintendo have the infrastructure for that and neither of them can match the level of investment and presence Microsoft has on that front.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Realistically if they identify the same problems but EU approves it, doesn't it mean that it makes a stronger case for the appeal? because the same issues have been cleared and approved by another big regulator.
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ShaiKhulud1989
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I'm still waiting for his track record of successful big-tech acquisitions of close-to-similar scale. I mean dentist and gynecologist are both specilize in treating cavities, but there's a catch about their medical area of expertise.I guess he's only a BAD lawyer when he says things some people don't wanna hear....
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
ATVI up 1% still 10 points below the crater the CMA left.
Unknown Soldier
Member
LMAO the EU though, approving the merger after CMA already blocked it. I hope that MS money helps them sleep better at night. They probably sleep super good on the bed of money they get from FIFA but greed knows no bounds. It's a good thing Brexit happened or ABK would be a part of MS now and the next on the chipping blocks would be EA, Ubisoft, and Take 2.
You said "And at the end of those 10 years, Microsoft holds all the cards for cloud gaming and can make whatever changes they want. CMA ain't buying it, thankfully."
This reads as Microsoft will control cloud gaming, and I said no it is not true because there are strong competitors that can impact cloud gaming if they wanted to. I probably read that incorrectly then, because cloud gaming can still be competitive after those 10 years, and MS would not hold all the cards.
Varteras
Member
Of all the things that were posted multiple times in this thread over the months, seems kinda weird to call this one out.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
let's go MS. let's go!!!! For the gamers, for the industry....for the disruption!!!!
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Just an ordinary day at Twitter.
??? The cloud gaming issue is universal. The presence of the Xbox console matters little. Xcloud is in all those countries.Then in all of them (including UK and EU) console harm has been denied, liquidated. And for that reason those countries have approved without conditions. Even Brazil where the presence of Xbox console is very significant.
They made Rational and correct decisions and, nevertheless, here you are censoring, making fun of and despising them just for the fact that they don't say what you want
In other words, the issue here is cloud gaming, which is universal and that is where different conclusions have been reached. Which has been the most rational? As said, subjectivity of each one.
The UE believes that these remedies are enough, they help competitiveness and the development of a nascent market. They are easily monitorable and controllable...
CMA thinks that these remedies require control and monitoring and they are not willing to spend means and resources on them...
I will not tell you what you sound like, among other reasons because it has already been clear from the beginning for everyone present of this thread....
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Is there a correlation between being a Twitter checkmark and being a rabid Xbox fanboy?
Bernoulli
M2 slut
Doesn't match the narrative that it's over for the CMA
That Microsoft will pull out of the UK
MS will buy the UK and the prime minister will close the CMA and approve the deal
mansoor1980
Gold Member
Nothing1234
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dotnotbot
Member
Brexit saved gaming, who would have thought
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mansoor1980
Gold Member
The industry will have 10 years with these advantages, Netflix was the pioneer at the mass movie streaming and no one cried it was wrong, competition came in and took their slices quickly.
Dick Jones
Banned
Yeah, I don't want to hear any rubbish about his bad ticker as an excuse to not discuss things. I accepted it at the time but his behaviour now shows he is disingenuous. He is a more restrained Foss Patents but that means he is still a shill for hire.Oh......so now Hoeg weighs in?
jm89
Member
Sounds like an own goal from MS.Everybody here dunking on MS for the longest time for investing, and talking about the power of the cloud, and now people here are calling it a legitimate threat to gaming, and gaming services.
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Varteras
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Lol right?
The CMA that is on the verge of being granted more power by the UK government within the next 12 months.
A market that is the biggest tech sector in Europe, the 6th largest economy, and one of only two that Xbox is competitive in.
A PM whose party just got thrashed in elections.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
People actually pay for that shit, so they can look more impotent than they are.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
I'm 100% they use bots or an echo chamber to boost their likes
Topher
Identifies as young
You've got Geforce Now and all these other cloud providers coming to Microsoft for licenses to ABK products including COD for 10 years. That is a massive amount of control in the cloud market as they will be dependent on Microsoft. MS will be able to yank all those licenses and consolidate these customers under xCloud.
People really need to stop with the Netflix comparisons. This ain't the same.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
People are dunking on the cloud because no enthusiast who tallks about VRR, 120Hz modes, low latency non v-sync, etc, etc, wants to stream games.Everybody here dunking on MS for the longest time for investing, and talking about the power of the cloud, and now people here are calling it a legitimate threat to gaming, and gaming services.
But, we do know the future in this globalism world is the WEF motto, "you will own nothing and like it."
Context and nuance are a thing.
James Sawyer Ford
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Thirty7ven
Banned
EC coming off as total cucks here, always behind the ball. At least play hard ball with MS, press on microtransactions, hell anything.
Netflix was a rental company and they got massive licenses in a short span. And how MS can own the market if they are giving away licenses for a decade? By that point every big and small developer would be putting their games into these companies, if it doesn't, it means its a very small market even after all these years.
jm89
Member
Honestly i think they may have given the CMA more ammunition on how bad these deals are.
FBeeEye
Banned
Guess that choice outside of this thread looking in now.
I can probably guess your console of choice.
MDSLKTR
Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That's not the future, that's now. Even if you 'own' something, it's license can be revoked and it can be de-listed within seconds on a publisher/platfom holders whim.
That being siad, the cloud push is not geared towards the 'enthusiasts' either.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Is this an appeal to authority?Gotta love the "acquisition lawyer doesn't know what he's talking about" takes
He's a lawyer, most of the time their job is to bullshit for their clients.
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dotnotbot
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CMA confirmed as a bunch of playstation fanboys
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