Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Transcripts from the most recent FTC leak. It didn't go anywhere, of course, but still an interesting discussion so worth sharing here to see what GAF thinks.
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Microsoft discussed/theorized the possibility to circumvent Sony with xCloud on PS5's web browser
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
PS5 doesn't even have a public facing web browser so this wouldn't have gone anywhere.
That and they would have just blocked it on their frontend anyway.
That and they would have just blocked it on their frontend anyway.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
It really is dumb that there’s no web browser. My fuckin Dreamcast had one. I still have the disc.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
They have, but it's hidden. You can access it by sending yourself or a friend a chat message with https://www.google.com, it will embed and then you can click to open the hidden web browser.
There's even a simpler method than that without needing to message anyone.
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Pelta88
Member
"We have seen through telemetry someone has already tried it - but it crashed because their browser didn't support controller in the way we expected 
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Microsoft does not care about gaming. They only care about forcing their way onto the competition's platform. Not through games, which is a legitimate pursuit as a publisher. But through nefarious, disgusting, corporate cloak and dagger manoeuvres.
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Microsoft does not care about gaming. They only care about forcing their way onto the competition's platform. Not through games, which is a legitimate pursuit as a publisher. But through nefarious, disgusting, corporate cloak and dagger manoeuvres.
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dem
Member
i have 300mb too and it works like butter, its not xclouds fault
Well it is and it isnt.
If the product doesn't work everywhere... its a problem.
DonF
Member
dem
Member
They need more data centers. I'm in the middle of Canada... i have no idea where the nearest xcloud servers are. But i guarantee they are far.
IF the product doesn't work.. its still an MS problem.
They need to get it working everywhere.
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RagnarokIV
Battlebus imprisoning me \m/ >.< \m/
Do it boys. Get gamepass EVERYWHERE. Keep the subs up, and the juicy games flowing.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
It is Microsoft's fault for not putting servers everywhere
The only way to play decently is to live into the server
ManaByte
Member
"We have seen through telemetry someone has already tried it - but it crashed because their browser didn't support controller in the way we expected
Microsoft does not care about gaming. They only care about forcing their way onto the competition's platform. Not through games, which is a legitimate pursuit as a publisher. But through nefarious, disgusting, corporate cloak and dagger manoeuvres.
How dare they want to let people access games from any web browser.
T4keD0wN
Member
Are they too stupid to realize that almost every tv that PS5 is very likely connected to has a browser?
Anyway, cant they just, you know, release their games on Playstation if they want to reach their userbase?
Or release "a game" that has a fully functioning browser built-in?
Do i have to do the thinking for these overpaid clowns? Ill take my payment in gold Phil (real gold, not xbox gold)
Anyway, cant they just, you know, release their games on Playstation if they want to reach their userbase?
Or release "a game" that has a fully functioning browser built-in?
Do i have to do the thinking for these overpaid clowns? Ill take my payment in gold Phil (real gold, not xbox gold)
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Zuzu
Member
It could also be because there isn’t a server close enough to him. It’s Microsoft’s responsibility to bring the service to the customer not the customer’s responsibility to move house to use the service properly. MS might need to build more servers.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
Kinda sad how they are desperate to increase gamepass subs
But we saw reports that susbscriptions stopped growing and I hope we get a bigger decline from now on
existensmaximum
Member
Serious question: why would you use one instead of just using your smarphone, PC, laptop or whatever? I've never ever used a web browser in a console.
Guerilla Munch
Member
Maybe instead of all these comically Bond villain tactics they could maybe just try to produce some good fucking games.
Dick Jones
Banned
Years ago it would have been dumb not to have but now what's the point when everyone has smart phones & tablets?
yurinka
Member
There's one, but hidden. Which means almost nobody uses it, so it's dumb to try to find some business streaming games there.
Most people don't know they can connect their tv to internet or that it has a web browser. Or well, they simply use it on the phone/tablet or PC so don't see the point of using a browser on a tv or console.
MS prefers to don't release their games on PS to don't pay Sony the 30% cut. They are simply desperate to find GP users in any place they possibly can without paying any fee.
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dem
Member
Yeah.... I don't believe that... at all.
Theyre diverting a major percentage of the production of their console... for a niche product that only supports 5000 users?
Sure they are.
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xcloud supports a lot more than 5000 users.... that number was just for the UK and xblades are in 50+ azure servers nowYeah.... I don't believe that... at all.
Xcloud has a server capacity of 5,000 users..
Theyre diverting a major percentage of the production of their console... for a niche product that only supports 5000 users?
Sure they are.
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dem
Member
Fair. You're probably right about the UK.
I'd love to know the highest concurrent Xcloud user count. I bet its very low.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
"We have seen through telemetry someone has already tried it - but it crashed because their browser didn't support controller in the way we expected
Microsoft does not care about gaming. They only care about forcing their way onto the competition's platform. Not through games, which is a legitimate pursuit as a publisher. But through nefarious, disgusting, corporate cloak and dagger manoeuvres.
man, how is any of this nefarious?
They don’t block Geforce Now or Moonlight streaming or whatever on the Xbox browser. You’re going up in flames over execs wondering if the PS5 browser can run XCloud and thus could help attract more subscribers.
Where’s the ‘corporate cloak and dagger’ stuff here?
There’s a whole lot of strategy to be explored before talking about MS going third party.
And you truly think Microsoft will be allowed to release a stub for a web browser on PSN?
MarkMe2525
Banned
Your download speed has almost nothing to do with it anymore. It's your distance from hub, latency of your network, and noise level of your connection.
I have a Gigabit connection that xcloud used to not work on very well. Lots of macroblocking and unbearable input lag. I called my isp and they came out to replace my line to the house, and now it's an amazing experience.
ManaByte
Member
They heavily cut investment in the last FY for xCloud.
This is old news regurgitated to create a new type of outrage. We’ve known for a long time they were upgrading the server blades from XBO to XSX hardware at that time.
reinking
Gold Member
It is not MS fault but it is their problem if they want to push the streaming future.
dem
Member
Oh.. I'm positive its due to distance from the hub.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
I'm specifically talking about Phil going on record that they've cut the xCloud investment for Fiscal Year 2023 which is new information that came from the recent leaks.
Xbox Cloud Gaming investment is now 'zero' as Fortnite on xCloud flops
Microsoft appears to have given up on cloud gaming in the short term, according to surprising new information from the Xbox leaks.
metro.co.uk
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ManaByte
Member
From a clickbait story claiming “MS has given up on cloud gaming”. Like I said, we’ve known they were upgrading the server blades with XSX hardware previously. Once that was done you obviously don’t have to keep pouring money into it as they just need to be maintained now.I'm specifically talking about Phil going on record that they've cut the xCloud investment for Fiscal Year 2023 which is new information that came from the recent leaks.
Xbox Cloud Gaming investment is now 'zero' as Fortnite on xCloud flops
Microsoft appears to have given up on cloud gaming in the short term, according to surprising new information from the Xbox leaks.
how are they pushing it? its a bonus feature for ultimate users only, if they were pushing it they would have a streaming only box out already but they know the servers arent there to cope yet hence why that box is shelved for now
dem
Member
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JTCx
Member
MarkMe2525
Banned
The download speed has no bearing on the quality of the connection.
Edit: I should have said very little. I bad connection can limit your real world speeds.
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twilo99
Member
Even if Sony put a browser on the PS5, which I guess they claim it’s too much of a security concern for them, they will 100% block any sort of xbox experience on the PS5.
Can’t wait for Sony to launch their cloud service and see if Microsoft does the same on the Xbox, which has a chromium based browser.. I doubt they will block Sony’s service on it but we will see
Can’t wait for Sony to launch their cloud service and see if Microsoft does the same on the Xbox, which has a chromium based browser.. I doubt they will block Sony’s service on it but we will see
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