Dragon Age: The Veilguard lets you choose top surgery scars in character creator

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You live in a fantasy world that doesn't exist. Stop listening to right-wing grifters on YouTube dude.
I live in a world where I read the meetings minutes from local school board meetings where multiple parents of different backgrounds bring these books that are in the school libraries of the local school district to the school board and read excerpts from the books and ask the school board how they can justify these being in middle schools. Those excerpts from the books include vivid descriptions of lewd sexual acts. Try again.
 
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Not in any country that's not AMERICA, so LMAO.

Get your country in order and stop blaming videogames, we see you Jack Thompson
I'm British.

And I'm doing the opposite of blaming video games, I'm saying that the suggestion games influence behavior in such significant ways as to get someone to shoot up a school or, IMO even more ridiculously, change their gender, is always agenda driven nonsense - sorry if that was too nuanced for you. I'll dumb it down next time.
 
... The industry is at this state 'cause companies are giving waaay too much freedom for people to use their millionaire budget

It's baffling, really

Executives pay no attention to how their money is being spent? "Here's some money, let's see what you got 5 years from now".

I wouldn't mind it if there was some context for this inclusion. A game like The Sims, makes sense to have all the options imaginable for the character creator.

But to think that an individual in the DA universe would care about removing their tits ...
 
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We are about to see the first back-to-back-to-back-to-back mega-flop for major AAAA Western games

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"Speak with your wallet" seems to be working. These videogames are a dime a dozen. Along with this game in October, Y's X: Nordics is also releasing. Am very much looking forward to playing that. There is always something else to play not even including most of our extensive backlogs of unplayed games.
 
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I didn't say BG3 was as woke. BG3 was a progressive game but its characters weren't all about that fact. And yeah, it was also a great game.

And IP is not a guarantee looking at some of the Marvel, DC and Star Wars games.
It's a tired argument to bring up past games that have woke or progressive values... the point is there has been enough chip damage to where a huge portion of the gaming audience has had enough. Activist game designers flew too close to the sun and now people are outright rejecting it. Same thing goes for shit like Star Wars and Marvel.
 
We are about to see the first back-to-back-to-back-to-back mega-flop for major AAAA Western games

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The only one I'd vaguely consider buying is Shadows, if the buzz is positive after release. The protagonists don't inherently bother me. But I've mostly lost interest in the franchise after Valhalla and prefer to not play overly bloated and repetitive games designed to incentivize MTX timesavers. The revisionist history politically correct elements in Valhalla weren't great either and stood out a lot more than the revisionism in previous AC titles, so that's an active concern as well.

The rest are easily ignored.
 
Notice how this woman is fine with making the bulge size large and admitting to "having fun with it" But if anyone wants a chest slider for female characters in games like Xenoblade Chronicles X, they try to ruin you for being "misogynist"

Rules for thee but not for me.
Forget tits. I want a HUGE. Vagina on my character. But that would literally kill women so gamers lose.
 
... The industry is at this state 'cause companies are giving waaay too much freedom for people to use their millionaire budget

It's baffling, really

Executives pay no attention to how their money is being spent? "Here's some money, let's see what you got 5 years from now".

I wouldn't mind it if there was some context for this inclusion. A game like The Sims, makes sense to have all the options imaginable for the character creator.

But to think that an individual in the DA universe would care about removing their tits ...
you just have to use their own arguments against them here. "it's a video game, it's not real, Game X has never taken realism seriously".

well in that case in magic land with all the magicians and orcs and goblins and dragons, could they not just magic away the evil boobies? isn't there a potion to change gender? It's a video game, it doesn't have to be realistic right?
 
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max chest and max glutes, but at least you can increase the bulge size astronomically
It really does feel like there's a different type of hatred for the female form at these developers.

Some sort of brain rot where "if I can't look like this in real life, I won't let any of the characters as well!"
 
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Coming soon on Bloomberg: "Dragon Age: Veilguard failed to meet expectations"

Fans of DA: Origins: Yeah! Same!

Everyone else: then what the fuck where you expecting after the back-to-back-to-back flops?
 
It really does feel like there's a different type of hatred for the female form at these developers.

Some sort of brain rot where "if I can't look like this in real life, I won't let any of the characters as well!"
It's not even that. Shit like this is a middle-finger to gamers and the "male gaze".
 
Dragon Age is getting ripped to shreds everywhere for this. Even people on Reddit are struggling to be enthused about the game.

I watched the latest IGN preview and it felt more like damage control for BioWare. "Call out how jarring the Qunari heads look. We're self-aware about it."
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Anyway, the game looks a tad bit oversaturated, but I think the graphics are pretty good. I just can't get past the cast of characters and my assumption that the writing will be complete trash. Pretty bummed I can't be excited for a new Dragon Age.
 
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Why are they like this. I was looking forward to this even with a bit of gayness to it. I have a strong feeling the writing in Veilguard will be full of preachy awfulness with contemporary references ("Building a wall against the wood elves is wrong" *Everyone disliked that*) and some evil doctor refusing to cut some child dwarf's dick off refusing them transformation into their true god-like being.
 
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Dragon Age is getting ripped to shreds everywhere for this. Even people on Reddit are struggling to be enthused about the game.

I watched the latest IGN preview and it felt more like damage control for BioWare. "Call out how jarring the Qunari heads look. We're self-aware about it."
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Anyway, the game looks a tad bit oversaturated, but I think the graphics are pretty good. I just can't get past the cast of characters and my assumption that the writing will be complete trash. Pretty bummed I can't be excited for a new Dragon Age.

What a difference between now and a game that came out years ago:

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They looked cool in Dragon Age 2 and now...not so much. I'm guessing the developers wanted to make their own interpretation of the Qunari, unfortunately.

Agreed about not being able to get excited for a new Dragon Age game. It was such a long wait too.
 
Not surprising the character creator options, and the options for women being severely limited. Insidious misogyny has always been a rampant part of the TRA movement, where they often want to control how women present themselves or views on femininity. The concept of being a woman is very often rooted in a humiliation/degredation fetish (women are "lesser" than men so they get off as being seen as a woman as humiliation), so they often have pretty nasty opinions about actual biological women and their views and concerns. Even Contrapoints has spouted some eye raising stuff against women.
 
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I think they should not release this game because it will bomb harder than Concord

This is Bomba before release lol
 
This game isn't for me. It's such a departure from previous titles that it feels like a new IP. Definitely a no from me.

I can't say I'd be shocked if this flops. Bioware have been underperforming for years. This could be the game that finishes them off.
 
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I mean BG3 and Hogwarts were fairly "woke" and were great games.

And of course Spider-Man 2 and Last of Us 2 were woke and sold very well. Although personally I am not a fan of these two games.

1. There's a difference between woke and progressive. Games like Spider-Man 2 and TLOU2 have stories with progressive themes. It's not just window dressing. Those games are about self-actualization and identity and having a place in the world, and therefore

2. Political or politically-tinged themes belong some places and not others. Where they fit, and are done well (TLOU2, Life is Strange, Death Stranding, Bioshock) the games are richer for it and tend to sell well. When they're hamfisted bullshit (Concord), we get annoyed and the games tend to bomb.

Put more simply - there's a difference between pronouns on a selection screen and Lev.
 
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1. There's a difference between woke and progressive. Games like Spider-Man 2 and TLOU2 have stories with progressive themes. It's not just window dressing. Those games are about self-actualization and identity and having a place in the world, and therefore

2. Political or politically-tinged themes belong some places and not others. Where they fit, and are done well (TLOU2, Life is Strange, Death Stranding, Bioshock) the games are richer for it and tend to sell well. When they're hamfisted bullshit (Concord), we get annoyed and the games tend to bomb.

Put more simply - there's a difference between pronouns on a selection screen and Lev.
Personally I think TLOU2 and especially Spider-Man 2 crossed that Progressive to Woke lines, but either way these were certainly games that sold well.

It's going to be interesting to see sales of the next games in the franchises.
 
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Personally I think TLOU2 and especially Spider-Man 2 crossed that Progressive to Woke lines, but either way these were certainly games that sold well.

It's going to be interesting to see sales of the next games in the franchises.

But certainly you'd agree that they attempted more than just pandering and window-dressing?
 
1. There's a difference between woke and progressive. Games like Spider-Man 2 and TLOU2 have stories with progressive themes. It's not just window dressing. Those games are about self-actualization and identity and having a place in the world, and therefore

2. Political or politically-tinged themes belong some places and not others. Where they fit, and are done well (TLOU2, Life is Strange, Death Stranding, Bioshock) the games are richer for it and tend to sell well. When they're hamfisted bullshit (Concord), we get annoyed and the games tend to bomb.

Put more simply - there's a difference between pronouns on a selection screen and Lev.
Sp2 has literally a mission where a white old rich guy steal stuff from a black music museum and the boss fight against scream contain the biggest feminist rant i ever heard in a game and to include all of that verbal diarrhea where peter act like a soyboy cunt they made the fight the longest boss fight in the game.
It doesn't get much more in your face woke than that dude.
And let's not forget almost completely erasing the police from the game and i rememeber even someone trolling them in one occasion.

I can forgive tlou2 for the bigot sandwitch trash line that would be out of line everywhere except stuff like dustborn or the deadnaming bullshit, but sp2 was unbereable, self-actualization my ass.

And of course you know all this bullshit is not from the heart when sony cut most of it for the arab version of the game.
 
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This game will be a super flop lol.

Too many good games in October to even bother to care about this anymore. Enjoy selling this to the 400 concord fans.

Metaphor refantazio will save games in 2024.
 
But certainly you'd agree that they attempted more than just pandering and window-dressing?
Oh, sure, they were very serious in their "message" and the games narratives were wrapped around that.

Veilguard though is just meh, seems to be pandering for the sake of pandering. Because in a world where people can turn into demons or heal from deadly wounds, we have "top surgery scars".
 
I watched gameplay footage last night and it actually looks fine overall, eased some of my concerns. I am still concerned but I'm going to take a leap of faith. Personally, I want this game to sell well because there were rumors and concept art floating around of an Origins remake, and I'm scared that this game flopping will lead them to cancel the remake.
 
Sp2 has literally a mission where a white old rich guy steal stuff from a black music museum and the boss fight against scream contain the biggest feminist rant i ever heard in a game and to include all of that verbal diarrhea where peter act like a soyboy cunt they made the fight the longest boss fight in the game.
It doesn't get much more in your face woke than that dude.
And let's not forget almost completely erasing the police from the game and i rememeber even someone trolling them in one occasion.
The one moment I remembered was a sidequest where some dumbasses stole the school team's mascot and you had to find them by doing some weird shit with lasers to discover hidden messages from a group who called themselves "Bipoc artists" and was responsible for stealing that mascot. This was a huge wtf moment for me
 
The one moment I remembered was a sidequest where some dumbasses stole the school team's mascot and you had to find them by doing some weird shit with lasers to discover hidden messages from a group who called themselves "Bipoc artists" and was responsible for stealing that mascot. This was a huge wtf moment for me
Oh yeah, i think they refer to these bipoc artist as world class artists or some shit :lollipop_grinning_sweat:
 
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Being disgusted by DEI

Many of us simply will have nothing to do with DEI of any kind. Not bigoted at all, just see it for the poison it is and don't want it infecting our free time.
TIL that cancer is DEI. You're the exact kind of person I was talking about lol. You must not play many games then. Or are you just selective with your outrage because someone told you to be?
 
The more I hear about this character creator, the worse it sounds. I think the worst part is the lack of boob and ass options for women. Looking at the characters in the game, some look ok. But you cannot make a decent looking playable female character. That is just awful. They literally brag about how great the creator is, when it is probably the worst one ever.

I uninstalled Sims 4 when they added in top scars for free, while charging for everything else in the world. For fuck sake, it should have been paid DLC like everything else, then I could have at least had the option to not see it in my game. They forced it on me. And that is the problem. This shit is forced. I am so sick of it being forced on me.

And I agree, Bioware needs to get shut down after this. They are done. There is nothing of value left at that company.
 
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