Sgt. Pinback
(L3) + (R3) | Spartan rage activated
I get it, 'representation'. But, it's just fucking creepy. It's a mental illness that has mutated into a fashion statement, and shoving it in video games is just really weird and fucked up.
Dragon Age: The Veilguard lets you choose top surgery scars in character creator
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Madflavor
Member
Isn't the whole point to be a fantasy game and pretend to play something you're not?
Why do they need to bring real world shit in to it. You want to play a dude? Play a dude.
Also this explains a lot.
This is a fair take. If there was a genre that had any business allowing you to play whatever race and gender you want, it's RPGs.
Although to be fair, you could take that "fantasy" argument into a different direction. Because it is kinda funny that in a setting where all kinds of different schools of magic exist, people still gotta be put under the knife to transition. This is a setting where shape shifting, blood magic, and necromancy exists among other things. So you could easily make an argument that Top Surgery Scars do break immersion.
Is it a big deal? No I think it's a small stupid thing. But it's a thing that just comes across as clumsy pandering to a tiny minority crowd.
GHG
Member
Cool story, good luck supporting your Nazi agenda. Ignored along with the thread. Hope the mods ban your bitch ass ✌
You know, I had a bit of empathy up until the point where you went straight for the resetera playbook.
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shoplifter
Member
Not buying this garbage unless I can have phalloplasty scars on Xir's arms
WHERE ARE MY PHALLOPLASTY SCARS, BIOWARE?
WHERE ARE MY PHALLOPLASTY SCARS, BIOWARE?
delishcaek
Member
it's over boys
the west has fallen
I bet 5 bucks that you can make the belly/waist bigger than the tits!
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
Holy shit, this thread became a spicy meatball.
It's so rare to see mod text in a post here that I forget the mods actually mod sometimes. You guys like summoned the Dragon twice. Big ups. Major mana.
Uh...all the people who are like "this doesn't have anything to do with trans ideologies, you're stretchiiinggg," like...you guys are the people who are going to get scammed out of your entire life savings over with the phone with a guy in India when you're an elderly person. This is like dead body, dude next to it with a smoking gun levels of no duh.
It's not a big deal, sure. It's easy to ignore, sure. We weren't going to play it, anyway. Sure. Wait-
If it didn't have a bunch of pandering and modern day escapism sponges in the form of contemporary social fads that will age like milk in relevance as time goes on - we might have given it a go. Maybe some of us were big fans before waiting years and years only to be met with Fable ass Shrek looking plastic characters in a stage based game where you can see your titty scars if you manage to see fucking anything through the purple wall of constant particle effects on screen. And maybe those feeling excluded for those reasons are angry.
Or like me, and have never played DA but think the entire thing is fucking clown-on-pony hilarious.
It's so rare to see mod text in a post here that I forget the mods actually mod sometimes. You guys like summoned the Dragon twice. Big ups. Major mana.
Uh...all the people who are like "this doesn't have anything to do with trans ideologies, you're stretchiiinggg," like...you guys are the people who are going to get scammed out of your entire life savings over with the phone with a guy in India when you're an elderly person. This is like dead body, dude next to it with a smoking gun levels of no duh.
It's not a big deal, sure. It's easy to ignore, sure. We weren't going to play it, anyway. Sure. Wait-
If it didn't have a bunch of pandering and modern day escapism sponges in the form of contemporary social fads that will age like milk in relevance as time goes on - we might have given it a go. Maybe some of us were big fans before waiting years and years only to be met with Fable ass Shrek looking plastic characters in a stage based game where you can see your titty scars if you manage to see fucking anything through the purple wall of constant particle effects on screen. And maybe those feeling excluded for those reasons are angry.
Or like me, and have never played DA but think the entire thing is fucking clown-on-pony hilarious.
Dazraell
Member
They'll add "was / were" in a patch after the game will underperform
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Not seeing it. Could be 80+ though.
GnomeChimpsky
Member
The "easily ignorable" stuff gets kinda hard to ignore when the game is friggin littered with it.
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ahtlas7
Member
ChorizoPicozo
Member
I hear a coupe of positive impressions...lets see if the game actually flops or if it is just "white noice".
Senua
Member
Connificent
Al Pachinko, Konami President
it's over boys
the west has fallen
You can have a bigger bulge than that! Bunch of freaks
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
Holy shit, dude. No one is raging, past that weird past couple pages. We're laughing at this shit. Laughing.
If it's not at stuff you approve of, that's free speech, homie. I'm glad people are playing.
darrylgorn
Member
The amount of time some people dedicate to character creation is disturbing.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
The red flag was when cash/longfellow referred to us as 'y'all'.
nkarafo
Member
It's the message. DEI/Self inserts/virtue signal above lore and story.
Shows the developer's intentions, priorities and standards. Gives you an idea how the rest of the game will feel.
I'm not really upset though because i know this game will bomb.
Tokio Blues
Gold Member
I'm out
nkarafo
Member
My condolences but....
...what does that have to do with video games?
Why would you want that experience being reminded to you by a fantasy video game?
CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
Why is this even a thing in video games? There is no purpose behind it other than pandering to a very vocal minority.
I genuinely hope the game bombs as a result of this.
Stop the "activism" in video games. I don't care if the writers or Devs in the games I play are trans. I just don't want to see my video games riddled with utter banality.
I genuinely hope the game bombs as a result of this.
Stop the "activism" in video games. I don't care if the writers or Devs in the games I play are trans. I just don't want to see my video games riddled with utter banality.
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
Seriously. I had a stroke in 2017, I'm not petitioning for characters in games who have half their body numbed out. No, that's me. I turn on the console to be not me. Someone stronger, better looking, with skills I don't know in a world I don't live in. It's a fantasy, with all due respect, I want to go through caverns and dark forests, not hear about your breast cancer or floating gender.
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bender
What time is it?
But I heard it adds character
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
If you've upset Jaffe, you've probably done something right. He shipped one good game 19 years ago and acts like some kind of moral authority for all-time. One of the most completely disappointing "famous" developer stories the industry's ever had.
Cyberpunkd
Member
Fair point, and others are exactly opposite - they want their entertainment to mirror real life and deal with real life issues.
If the scar thing is true someone probably thought of it like: "we have non binary characters, we might even have a trans character, so then we have transitioning, right? So we have potential surgery".
Next up: hormone replacement potion.
Aenima
Member
Does the character get breast holes if the slider goes down from 100% ?
it's over boys
the west has fallen
FunkMiller
Banned
Dragon Age Veilguard: a super inclusive game for everybody... unless you happen to a be a woman with large breasts.
Fuck dem bitches.
bender
What time is it?
It could just be a generational thing. My mom had a bilateral mastectomy in the late 80s thanks to breast cancer and the only time I've heard reference to top or bottom surgeries is related to folks who are transitioning. Thankfully that's the only time my family has had to do will that. Language changes over time so it very well may be common parlance of our current time when talking about mastectomies.
lifa-cobex
Member
In a game where you can transform into a spider or a dragon....
Breast surgery is out of my spiritual knowledge. Just not enough MP I guess.
Breast surgery is out of my spiritual knowledge. Just not enough MP I guess.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
it's over boys
the west has fallen
Where's the, "it doesn't matter because it doesn't affect your enjoyment of the game" crowd?
Slowly but surely. One step at a time they destroy it. One pronoun there, another gender erasure there, and then they get rid of attractive women, straight people become a minority, and it just keeps going.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Exactly. They can transform so why the fuck would anyone have breast surgery when they can get a nice pair of tits without one scar?
bender
What time is it?
I just follow Youtube guides to create famous people so I've come around on them.
Phobos Base
Member
I guess women with large breasts aren't allowed to see themselves represented in games any more.
Tokio Blues
Gold Member
End of the road for Bioware.
Hopefully there is still developers who cares about gamers and money and not this sweet baby inc people.
Hopefully there is still developers who cares about gamers and money and not this sweet baby inc people.
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
Personally I am tired of the DEI nonsense and pandering shit. Note that I consider this different from actual inclusivity and equality.
I am tired of seeing it everywhere now days, work, entertainment including movies and games, politics (not that extreme right is better) and so on.
I am really tired of shit like this game and others crapping all over great past franchises. That's especially the case with Disney.
I just want to relax and play a game or watch a movie. I don't want to be preached to.
I am tired of seeing it everywhere now days, work, entertainment including movies and games, politics (not that extreme right is better) and so on.
I am really tired of shit like this game and others crapping all over great past franchises. That's especially the case with Disney.
I just want to relax and play a game or watch a movie. I don't want to be preached to.
laynelane
Member
I've never heard a women refer to her chest as "top" or "top surgery scars" with reference to a mastectomy. I've only seen that terminology used by trans people. However, perhaps over time, that expression is being used more in hospitals and other medical environments - especially since mastectomies are now performed for reasons other than cancer or risk of cancer.
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DelireMan7
Member
Honestly don't care. Some people will be happy and use it. And some will not use it and it changes nothing.
Anyway the game doesn't look that exciting. They have bigger problem to make it successful.
Anyway the game doesn't look that exciting. They have bigger problem to make it successful.
Spitfire098
Member
If the game sells like gang busters, do we file the game under the "ignore list" when talking about go woke go broke?
StereoVsn
Gold Member
I mean BG3 and Hogwarts were fairly "woke" and were great games.
And of course Spider-Man 2 and Last of Us 2 were woke and sold very well. Although personally I am not a fan of these two games.
captainnapalm
Member
Damn I'm speechless. Just when you think they can't possibly sink any lower.