Avowed art director calls Elon Musk a "sad little shit" over Avowed gender pronoun complaints, indicates more of the same in final product
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FoxMcChief
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So Dr. Disrespect and Matt Gaetz post there?
It's to Twitter/X like what ResetEra is to NeoGaf.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
So we're not buying games because someone was mean to Elon fucking Musk online now? Okay. That's definitely not fucking nuts at all
You read this thread and that's all you got out of it?
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
IllegalLemon
Member
You know you fucked up, when AsmonGold starts covering your shenanigans, and Asmon has a sizeable following and is more than capable of influencing potential buyers to keep away from that pre-order button, hopefully Mo1stCritical doesn't get in on the fun, it's going to get a lot worse for the game if a bigger YouTuber starts covering it.
Joshmyersbv
Member
Okay, I don't wanna hear anybody say that pronouns aren't a big deal when Obsidian is literally making content creators sign NDAs to prevent them from showing off character creation.
They knew that this would cause a problem and they tried to hid it. There is absolutely no reason to have this stuff in the game unless your game sucks and your hoping to improve review scores by being inclusive (Which worked for Veilguard).
They knew that this would cause a problem and they tried to hid it. There is absolutely no reason to have this stuff in the game unless your game sucks and your hoping to improve review scores by being inclusive (Which worked for Veilguard).
Fbh
Member
So having the option of being called they/them isn't pushing a woke agenda?
IMO RPG's should be all about options. There is nothing particularly wrong with making a character creator inclusive and allowing as many people as possible, even the ones with mental disorders, to create a character that represents them. That's the whole point of an RPG.
IMO when it becomes pushing an agenda is when you start shoving these elements in my face and, in the case of an RPG, limiting the ways I can interact with them, like Veilguard:
-Where there are top scars but you can't give characters big boobs or asses
-Where there is an annoying and often mean non binary character and you are forced to interact with her, can't really be mean to her or push back on most of the stuff she says, and actually need to remain friendly with her to get the best ending.
-When the entire writing shifts from dark fantasy with tons of choices all over the moral spectrum to modern soy fantasy where you can't be bad or mean and everything is infused with Disney/Marvel dialogue.
Aguero9320
Member
Must admit I didn't read the whole thread because all I hear is Charlie Brown's teacher "wah waaah wah woke wah waaah wah DEI wah waaah wah boycott wah waaah wah give it to me hard, Elon'...You read this thread and that's all you got out of it?
It's like trying to read and make sense of the Unabomber's manifesto in here these days, but I get the general gist.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
He deleted his twitter account so the retweets will be gone as well.
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Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Jesus Christ.
Musk is retweeting what is obviously bullshit for the lols. Knowing full well that Nadella/Microsoft can't respond because if they do then they'll have to respond to every RT that claims any fiction about the company.
Musk is retweeting what is obviously bullshit for the lols. Knowing full well that Nadella/Microsoft can't respond because if they do then they'll have to respond to every RT that claims any fiction about the company.
The Cockatrice
Banned
They'll all move to bluesky and ignore everything.
IllegalLemon
Member
Perfectly valid and reasonable statement that I find it hard to disagree with. I'm a sucker for fantasy RPGs though, which is why I couldn't resist hovering over that pre-order button. But, if I see even one more of those far leftist woke posts from the game devs, you can bet for sure that I'm cancelling my pre-order without giving it a second thought.
Pretty much. And you can't even defend hogwarts with "good game" argument, it was just generic soulless take on a generic soulless ubisoft template
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Kacho
Member
I didn't even play it. What grown man cares about Harry Potter? lol
sorry if you care about Harry Potter bros
So you think that an Art Director at Microsoft Game Studios who is openly and publicly saying there are 'too many crusty white dudes' in gaming isn't also discriminating when hiring artists for his team?
He's retweeting obvious truth, not bullshit. Or at least it clearly has elements of truth.
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
We can't enter AI in gaming development fast enough.
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Yes we canSo we can pick and choose when to be outraged.
Well, enjoy your bisexual Tieflings
And theres nothing you can do about it
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Topher
Identifies as young
How is this "obviously bullshit"?
ChorizoPicozo
Member
you and half a dozen people too.
Zacfoldor
Member
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I think an Art Director can have a personal view and say things without describing the company policy of a division of one of the biggest companies in the world.
It's extremely disingenuous to try and claim one is evidence for the other. Especially once the account that's decided it is the one with as dubious as past as the one quoted.
GHG
Member
Considering "AI" is largely ruled and manipulated by US big tech, that will only make matters worse.
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
This guy has to have committed career suicide, right?
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Now Phil and Satya might have to announce a PS5 port of Avowed soon to recover some sales and money10 million views so far
/s
ChorizoPicozo
Member
GHG
Member
What he said was in direct relation to a hiring policy. He also happens to be in a position where he would have oversight of any recruitment process for the positions he described.
This goes far beyond any "personal view".
GHG
Member
You're assuming people have the capacity to know what "makes sense".
If you've never seen what you're asking for (and/or have no basic knowledge about the topic you're enquiring about) how would you know whether or not what the AI is spitting out is truthful or accurate?
If you are in a state of incognisance, the first result will do, why waste any more time?
Laptop1991
Member
It's just another one at this point lol, as if these meltdowns ever work!, well it tells me what i need to know about the game lol.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Yeah, I'm looking at the document now and it's.............something.
I take back what I said.
Musashipan
Member
I hope that crappy game flops and Microsoft quits the game market
violence
Member
Is this like self segregation?
Kacho
Member
Possibly for being a PR liability.
It's not just this guys job being at risk. It's everyone at Obsidian if the game bombs. That's when the tough business decisions come into play. Don't want to become the next Tango Gameworks.
twilo99
Member
This has been the main problem with all of this for years now .. it's either "you have to agree with me" or else you are a "nazi" , it's like the ideology needs constant affirmation from everyone otherwise it looses credibility or something.
There is no middle ground.
Musashipan
Member
I hope that crappy game flops and microsoft
Kacho
Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
When the molly kicks in mid sentence.
GHG
Member
Well aren't you glad that you've managed to contribute a few chapters then.
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near
Member
I get that. But what doesn't make sense is the actual screenshot.
If you make a post on twitter, and I (Josh Sawyer) repost it, it would be on my profile (Josh Sawyer's profile). The screenshot isn't from Josh's profile, it's from someone else's profile, so it shouldn't say Josh Sawyer retweeted on the actual retweet. Does that make sense? Even if Josh did retweet it and deleted it from he's profile and its gone now, that screenshot isn't proof that Josh retweeted it to begin with.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Skifi28
Member
AI doesn't solve these issues. It will be as biased as they want it to be.
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proandrad
Member
What does reward eligible mean?
lmimmfn
Member
It is up to the company to determine if and when it should be racist or not.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Why on earth would you ever fucking want that? Nothing would change, if anything things would get worse.
Just replace these wastes with people with actual passion for the design and the art. They're out there, it's just that they're not being hired.