YeulEmeralda
Linux User
I am still getting emails from Xbox Live despite that I haven't owned an Xbox since 36...
Steam hits 40m concurrent users.
- Thread starter MarV0
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
Lots and lots prankster uncles and people who don't buy games apparently have Steam running everywhere. 40 mil is fake news.
Alright boys, what are we fighting about?
And yes, 40 mil concurrent is how many people have Steam running. In game is a different figure. I think 12.5mil was brought up as highest in game.
This is still pretty large number of people that
a)Have Steam loaded and so vast majority will have games on Steam so can be marketed to buy more games
b)Most people who do have Steam loaded buy games and play games through Steam.
Topher
Identifies as young
As always, about saying something positive about the wrong platform, and without asking for permission.
Folks don't need to ask for permission to disagree with others in threads either my man.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
of course it matters.
Because steam is installed in a ton of pcs. Doesn';t mean these are active accounts.
-You can have people who just have their PC on (I would wager that is most of this number
-Accounts sold with 1 game (popular to sell cheap games this way)
-VPNS
-Bots
-Cards bot accounts
Right now, 10 million people are "playing" actively
But the same rules apply to these people. Tons of these are bots accounts, 1 time use accounts etc etc etc.
The 40mil number means nothing. Means my mother got her shitty laptop on and my nephew installed steam in it and it autostarts for 2 years now.
Does not equal playing or money spending accounts
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SweetTooth
Gold Member
I agree and I cannot for the life of me see a reason why would anyone exclude them without being seriously racist or ignorant.
Senua
Member
You'll enjoy the post below yours from Rofif, the walking meme
nemiroff
Gold Member
Exactly, brother.
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bender
What time is it?
More like column Deez Nuts.
Topher
Identifies as young
of course it matters.
Because steam is installed in a ton of pcs. Doesn';t mean these are active accounts.
-You can have people who just have their PC on (I would wager that is most of this number
-Accounts sold with 1 game (popular to sell cheap games this way)
-VPNS
-Bots
-Cards bot accounts
Right now, 10 million people are "playing" actively
But the same rules apply to these people. Tons of these are bots accounts, 1 time use accounts etc etc etc.
The 40mil number means nothing. Means my mother got her shitty laptop on and my nephew installed steam in it and it autostarts for 2 years now.
Does not equal playing or money spending accounts
lol.....didn't see that chart. These are still impressive numbers so it doesn't diminish that the milestone at all. Not the massive flex over other platforms that some thought it was, perhaps.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Where were you past few days when I upgraded my cpu to 5700x3d and enthusiastically shared my benchmark results and didn't whine at all? Even monster hunter benchmark ran kinda fine.
This is it. You always do this. You ignore everything good I have to say about pc and only pick the parts you don't agree with to drive your pcmr fanboy narrative.
A walking meme why? What did I say to upset your hyper intelligence in this thread? Nothing I said is false.
it's 10 mil playing. not 40. And out of that 10mil, real people is obviously less. We don't know how much.
Is facts and statistics also counting towards hating a pc?
You should know that You are one of most blind pc fanboys there is. You are more of a blind pc fanboy, than average ps fanboy is.
Understand that we don't care. Enjoy your pc or whatever the fuck you play that satisfies your ego. But know that other people can and will disagree because you are wrong way more often than you think and nobody likes you
edit: I don't think I remember having a single good interaction with you in past year or two. You are a blemish on this forum and all you do is bitch and moan.
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Topher
Identifies as young
It's a good post with real data. Don't agree with the "bot" stuff though.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
what group? who is upset?
UnrealEck
Member
I believe the word is 'gooner' these days.
There are a lot of factors that people for some reason don't even think about. By the way, you can also add a whole army of trading bots that don't play but just spin and trade cases and other things continuously through Steam. They don't even launch games, they just play the "Valve Best Game ever Made = Cases", but it's better not to even go there.of course it matters.
Because steam is installed in a ton of pcs. Doesn';t mean these are active accounts.
-You can have people who just have their PC on (I would wager that is most of this number
-Accounts sold with 1 game (popular to sell cheap games this way)
-VPNS
-Bots
-Cards bot accounts
Right now, 10 million people are "playing" actively
But the same rules apply to these people. Tons of these are bots accounts, 1 time use accounts etc etc etc.
The 40mil number means nothing. Means my mother got her shitty laptop on and my nephew installed steam in it and it autostarts for 2 years now.
Does not equal playing or money spending accounts
This is like creating a topic every time about Google breaking another record for the number of accounts. (How Many People Use Gmail? Gmail has over 1.8 billion active users globally, accounting for approximately 21.95% of the world's population).
But how many real people are playing at the moment, these are really interesting figures. But we will never know the exact figures, they are extremely difficult to calculate without direct access to the database, and Valve is unlikely to publish them openly, there are no reasons for this.
MMaRsu
Gold Member
Let me guess, fanboys of plastic boxes?
Fess
Member
That's a good post, I get your point.
But 30 years is so far into the future and now we're just getting started on AI and all the tech advancements that'll come through that. I'm thinking everything will be different. Maybe Nvidia will be king of the hill or some China company or Musk and we'll have a chip connected to our brain pushing images directly to our eyes or maybe it'll be holograms or controlling robots fighting on a colosseum arena on a space station or some other sci-fi thing.
Whatever it'll be I don't think Steam will be around as a launcher, except for retro gaming like playing on Commodore computers today.
Grildon Tundy
Member
Does this count people logged on to Steam but not playing a game?
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Probably the same ones who celebrate any time there's a game that performs like crap on PC like it's some kind of victory for PlayStation.
bender
What time is it?
of course it matters.
Because steam is installed in a ton of pcs. Doesn';t mean these are active accounts.
-You can have people who just have their PC on (I would wager that is most of this number
-Accounts sold with 1 game (popular to sell cheap games this way)
-VPNS
-Bots
-Cards bot accounts
Right now, 10 million people are "playing" actively
But the same rules apply to these people. Tons of these are bots accounts, 1 time use accounts etc etc etc.
The 40mil number means nothing. Means my mother got her shitty laptop on and my nephew installed steam in it and it autostarts for 2 years now.
Does not equal playing or money spending accounts
Actively playing is a much higher percentage than I would have guessed.
Senua
Member
Not disputing the facts, I just don't see the need to downplay the concurrent user milestone every time there's a thread about it.
"The 40mil number means nothing. Means my mother got her shitty laptop on and my nephew installed steam in it and it autostarts for 2 years now."
Pure hypotheticals again. Pulling the bot stuff out of his hairy arse. Just typical rofif stuff in every PC thread.
I find most of your posts hilarious and retarded, you've given me lots of entertainment over the years which I appreciate, I love you rofif. shame it's not mutual!
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
they doubled their CCUs in 5 years. spin it however you want, the growth is insane.
UnrealEck
Member
Yes.
Concurrent people playing games was just short of 13 million (that's not necessarily at the same time the 40m CCU was broken)
Also some people can be playing other games off of Steam so the number of people playing PC games (AAA, AA games) would be higher than 13m too.
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Mortisfacio
Member
Yes. 40 millions concurrent, 132+ million MAU (not sure what this last month was, 132 is from January) includes people on their PC simply with Steam open and signed in. I for example would count this last week playing mostly WoW on bnet and Avowed on PC GamePass, but Steam is open.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
the 1.3mil ccu for monster hunter is most likely fully real number. Game is too new and too expensive for trading bots.
So that's a real number and it's a great number.
I just don't see the need to flex a meaningless 40mil number that says us nothing and is artificially inflated to unknown degree
Yes, no one even doubts the success of MH, I also believe that everything is clean there, the game has always been mega popular in China, this is the only region where MH MMORPG were released, which the rest of the world did not receive. So everything is fine there, MH will soon have other problems, it seems like the game code was cracked, so the first cheats will be soon, I think within a couple of weeks, the same thing happened in MH Word, Capcom did not really fight with it
Ainem Enamas
Member
Steam it up!
Topher
Identifies as young
lol....."moms and bots" ain't the most compelling argument, I agree. The numbers speak for themselves and it is an impressive milestone. At the same time, PSN didn't need to dragged into the OP either.
Senua
Member
I missed that lol
Holammer
Member
I'm getting a new computer tomorrow, I'm giving my old one (13600k/32GB/1080GTX) to my old mother and installing Steam on it.Also important to note that many prankster uncles have been installing Steam on old ladies computers and have been for years. These numbers are included in the concurrents and likely invalidate the whole thing.
So she can play Dx-Ball2. Another Steam user added for the cause!
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HRK69
Gold Member
You couldn't be more wrong about that
You don't know how many are bots etc. you are just speculating that there are "tons" (whatever that number means).
Even if a user isn't actively playing, being logged in keeps them within the ecosystem, seeing sales, promotions, and recommendations. This keeps Steam's marketplace thriving.
Even if half of Steam's users are ghosts, they still spend more on games than most platforms living players
JayK47
Member
I'm impressed. I wonder how Xbox, Nintendo, and PS compare. I was an early adopter of Steam and was a huge skeptic of going digital. It has been a bumpy ride, but at the moment they have the best PC game store front by 100 miles. No other competitor comes close. The competitors efforts are laughable and half the time they end up going back to Steam with their tales between their legs. The Steam Deck is the coolest handheld since the original Gameboy. I love it and I never thought I would.
reinking
Gold Member
I fought it when they started screwing around with Counter-Strike. I actually hated Steam at first. Eventually, it grew into a marketplace that I wanted to use.
Mortisfacio
Member
Not that I've seen. There's a lot of individual games like Helldivers 2 sold more on PC and I think SH2 had more PlayStation sales (might be misremembering this, but was some game around this time) but I haven't been able to find any estimated figures for overall spend by platform.
Regardless, I just appreciate that Steam actually provides these numbers publicly. I wish Xbox, PlayStation and Nintendo were more transparent with their numbers.
MrTroubleMaker
Member
Look at all those Chads
Holammer
Member
Most developers don't share such numbers (trade secret), if they do, it's oft obfuscated & vague. If they have shareholders? Sure, but it's not detailed files for individual games.
I remember how From Software reported details sales numbers once when they were new to PC, I don't think they have done so since? Maybe Sony/MS discourage it.
Some indies like stardew Valley & Terraria update regularly. I would consider it clever marketing, as it helps the trending algorithm and results in more sales.
people! Most of them have to deal with 
windows!..Yes, but little timmy playing on his dads laptop is a legit user, its dad when he boots up his machine and has steam installed with auto login that is a slightly dubious count, not the other way round which somebody was alluding to. The kid is an active user on steam and there is no reason why they shouldn't count. Stating this fact upsets some people though, the usual people.
MarV0
Member
It really did need to be included in my opinion especially after reading the first few comments.
40m concurrent PC gamers is such an enormous number that the overwhelming majority of people cannot comprehend it.
When consoles used to report concurrent users they were around the 2m mark
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
It really did need to be included in my opinion especially after reading the first few comments.
40m concurrent PC gamers is such an enormous number that the overwhelming majority of people cannot comprehend it.
When consoles used to report concurrent users they were around the 2m mark
I don't think we ever got concurrent numbers from Sony but last we heard they have 118M MAU between ps4 and ps5. Good numbers.
Of course, we also have to account for pranksters watching Netflix and the bot accounts for farming Fifa cards per
rofif
request.
Topher
Identifies as young
It really did need to be included in my opinion especially after reading the first few comments.
40m concurrent PC gamers is such an enormous number that the overwhelming majority of people cannot comprehend it.
When consoles used to report concurrent users they were around the 2m mark
Consoles have reported MAUs and units sold. I've never heard of them reporting "concurrent" users before. So we don't have apples to apples data to compare and that's why it shouldn't be.
Sentenza
Member
No, it's not. It's stupid to the point of being almost unintentionally comedic.
It's the type of nitpicking with the delusion of being insightful, more than anything because it doesn't recognize that ANY excuse they can come up with to downplay the number applies to other services.
"Oh yeah, they may be 40 million concurrent, but ONLY 15 are actually playing at a given moment".
So what?
What does these people think?
That when they hear about the "100 million monthly users" on a console service that does not include a MAJORITY of people who are just idling and not actively playing something?
That "200 million XBOX accounts" means people who are playing at the same time?
If you are watching Netflix or Prime Video by your Playstation or XBOX once in a month, you are already included in the users who logged their online services for that month.
The last official confirmation we heard for monthly users on Steam was 130+ millions back when the peak of concurrent users was more than 10 millions lower.
The last declaration about the total number of accounts was over 1 billion.
And the claim that everyone who installs Steam keeps it idling for years without touching it is also complete bullshit. I've been on the platform for 20 years at this point and one of the first things I do when I re-install it on a new PC is disabling the auto-startup at Windows boot.
As I do with pretty much any other non-essential client, incidentally.
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Topher
Identifies as young
I'm talking about the actual data. Not the other stuff. But I get your point. Wasn't a great post with all the nonsense. I was focused on the graph.
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