Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Wow so clearly if they had went ahead with CES show unveil it would have costed a lot more than $599.
Fictional MSRP. First time I see the temporary MSRP tactic to be honest. Shady as fuck.
They almost did it also for RDNA 2 which the reference card was pretty much the only one at MSRP and they wanted to stop production. Now they're just saying that this was a bonus for early buyers and prices are going up soon.
I'm so fed up with GPU prices. If this fucking AI bubble can burst by switching to some quantum CPU or something, for the love of god, bring back gaming GPUs.
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iQuasarLV
Member
Yea I have been on zero sleep to be up for the 6am launch and am surly as fuck, couple that with the only friend to land a purchase submission got an email cancelling the order. I am dead sure these cards never had an online $599 presence. Right there at 6am and the webpages refresh to sold out with a single F5 is bullshit. They're just now double dipping the rebate coupon and the hiked up street price. I hope AMD demands receipts of this shit.
SolidQ
Member
I'd assuming they wasn't ready for RTX 5070ti price. In half year Prices will be normal
CLW
Member
Yeah if ONLY there was one within FOUR HOURS of my home and I live in a fairly large metro area of 1.5 million people
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
It means they expected 5070 Ti prices to be higher? wow
SolidQ
Member
Yeah
They also expected BlackWell will have much higher perf, that why they cancel top Sku's
UnderVolt + 9070nonXT
Miyazaki’s Slave
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64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
"comparable value" the "comparable value" you took away and sold for 1200 dollars you frauds!!!!!!!!!!Whoopsie...(this am and this pm)!
Damn it. Didn't mean to quote myself.
SoloCamo
Member
This will be the card that will make me retire my 6900XT. 4k performance being it's sweet spot is perfect for me on a 4k60hz setup. Will be nice to have the newer features too. Was going to get a 7900XTX but I missed the boat at launch and held onto the 6900XT. With a tuned memory 11900k I'll probably ride the combo out for a few more years.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
If PT at 60fps is your objective, I wouldn't bother with the 9070 XT.
Nankatsu
Gold Member
So basically retailers are limiting early stock (since they bought them at a higher price) until AMD lifts the MSRP good guys policy, allowing them to sell the cards at a higher price in a short future?
This is clever way to fuck over Nvidia, but considering it fucks the consumer in the process too...
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Lisa Su is obviously farming the rx 9080xt strategically, they want a bad ass release for it to change the equation.Bruh you beat me by a second
Reviews are pretty high, 10/10 from IGN
Radeon RX 9070 XT (ASUS TUF OC) review
We review the Radeon RX 9070 XT (ASUS TUF OC). The most striking improvement lies in the number of AI and ray tracing (RT) accelerators, which have seen a noticeable boost compared to previous generations. The RX 9070 XT packs 64 RDNA 4 compute units, 64 RT accelerators, and 128 AI accelerators.www.guru3d.com
AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT Review - IGN
www.ign.com
AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT Review: Best Bang for Buck at 4K
At $600, AMD's Radeon RX 9070 XT is just where it needs to be to compete for 4K gaming against the Nvidia GeForce RTX 5070 Ti.gizmodo.com
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FingerBang
Member
The situation in Europe is ridiculous. A friend of mine ordered a 9070 for €670, the xt were alll over 1000. In the UK I still see XT pop up at around 660/670, which is a fair price.
It's obvious AMD prioritizes their bigger markets, but overall it's a positive. For people worried about "fake" MSRP, let me tell you what will happen.
Jensen will realize he looks like a douche and magically find the stock so both 5070 and 5070ti will start appearing at retailers and get closer to MSRP.
AMD will lose their advantage and their cards will go below MSRP.
In 3-4 months you'll be able to buy any xx70 card for less than MSRP
It's the same situation for Nvidia, that's why you can't find their GPUs anywhere.
It's obvious AMD prioritizes their bigger markets, but overall it's a positive. For people worried about "fake" MSRP, let me tell you what will happen.
Jensen will realize he looks like a douche and magically find the stock so both 5070 and 5070ti will start appearing at retailers and get closer to MSRP.
AMD will lose their advantage and their cards will go below MSRP.
In 3-4 months you'll be able to buy any xx70 card for less than MSRP
There won't be a 9080xt, but I think you can expect a 9070xtx or 9075xt which might be a super OC'd version, maybe with more VRAM. They aren't making a bigger chip, there's too much money to be making in AI/datacenters.
It's the same situation for Nvidia, that's why you can't find their GPUs anywhere.
ValiantInstance
Member
I didn't realise that the Sappire Nitro model uses a 12 pin to 3x8 adapter. Just bought a native 12 pin for my PSU. I'm sure the adapter works fine but too many cables for my liking.
winjer
Member
Unless you are over clocking hard, that 3rd rail wont be used much.
Each 8pin can deliver 150W. And the pci slot delivers 75W.
ValiantInstance
Member
Yeah it's not so much the power draw but if Sapphire have gone to all the trouble to have a magnetic shroud over the thing to make it look tidy the least I can do is not have a mess of cables underneath it
GHG
Gold Member
UV
Details of the undervolt?
SolidQ
Member
Here found. Just need translated to English
Sapphire NITRO+ RX 9070 XT Gaming OC 16G (RECENZE)
Dlouho oÄekávané vydánà nové generace grafických karet spoleÄnosti AMD je koneÄnÄ tady. PrávÄ dnes totiž konÄà embargo na informace kolem nových grafických karet Radeon 9700/XT z nejnovÄjÅ¡Ã generace RDNA 4.0. Na GPUreport zaÄneme hned zhurta, protože si v dneÅ¡nà recenzi otestujeme...
www.gpureport.cz
Bry0
Member
Wow! I will have to try thisUV
ThisIsMyDog
Member
we need to go back to Q2 2010
GoldenEye98
posts news as their odd job
I wonder if the power efficiency between AMD and Nvidia chips is why AMD can't make bigger chips?
SolidQ
Member
They can, but they didn't expect, Blackwell so bad. just ada + GDDR7.
When you making product, you need to be sure you can sell it. N4C was very expensive chip. it's was 144CU/550W
Boss Mog
Member
At this point AMD should just issue a BIOS update that undervolts the card by default.UV
As I understand it, they can't do that, because the success of undervolting depends on the silicon lottery.
DenchDeckard
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Topher
Identifies as young
Don't want to pull an ONQ but I was saying all of this in the other thread
eh?
Bry0
Member
I love that this is a thing.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
If you look at my posts from January and Feb I was telling people that the prices are not viable for the msrps people were hoping for.
It's amazing isn't it! LolI love that this is a thing.
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SolidQ
Member
there no detail reviev between models. Maybe HUB in future will do
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I want a nitro + card
ValiantInstance
Member
Whoa was not expecting that. Not even a 4K bench either which the 9070 XT performs better in. I am very happy right now considering I can sell my old card for around 500.
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ValiantInstance
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One more set:
Unknown Soldier
Member
I actually think Jensen is having issues with RTX 50 series supply right now, there is no way the situation is normal with the "missing ROPs" issue and the trickle of GPU's literally 1 or 2 at a time into the channel
It's also possible that this is not an issue and that Jensen has decided he will continue to prioritize the $100k+ AI products over the $2k consumer product, even though the supply of AMD product into the retail market is like 100 times larger than the supply of Nvidia product
AMD might actually gain a ton of market share instantly because they simply have multiple orders of magnitude more product to sell than Nvidia, and Jensen might be perfectly fine with it
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Whichever one you can buy for MSRP.
For me they turned out to be Asrock. Would I get it if I had a choice? No. But I am not paying $200+ for some random Asus card.
SportsFan581
Member
I'm impressed by the RT performance, they managed to hold their own against the nearest Nvidia GPU (5070). Granted Nvidia phoned that one in, but still it's holding up a lot better than the 7000 series.