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If there was an 80s action film and a character in the movie was doing the exact stuff musk has been doing the past few months, no one would have any confusion about whether or not he's the bad guy. We'd just be waiting for the movies hero to deliver justice.

I wonder if you have burned some Teslas or not recently. "Hero delivering justice"

Elon's stated timetables and price point for consumer release of Optimus are absurd, however.

Yeah, his timelines have always been extremely generous. You can easily add 1-2 years to them at least. I wonder if even Robotaxis will deliver this time around or not.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Are you serious?

The Republicans didn't get the reputation as the party of big business for nothing. Which party wants to reduce environmental and safety regulations? Which party wants to reduce the power of unions? Which party wants to privatize more of the public sector? Which party wants to give more tax cuts to those billionaires and lower the corporate tax rates of the companies those billionaires run? Which party wants to make it easier to donate unlimited amounts of money through Super PACs via court cases like Citizens United and other such means?

Now ask yourself what do billionaires like more? That stuff I just laid out or the opposite of that stuff?

Your knowledge of American politics is a decade out of date





A lot changed after 2016 and almost every previous assumption about American politics is now wrong

 

[Punished Miku]

Your knowledge of American politics is a decade out of date





A lot changed after 2016 and almost every previous assumption about American politics is now wrong

You have to be the single most dishonest poster on here. It would be a true shock if you managed to type a full post without linking to X.

"Every democrat accusation is a confession" This is some scientology shit you repeat to insulate yourself from any outside influence. It is literally cult like behavior.

If anyone is talking about a specific thing like Republicans, or Bernie Sanders, or Musk, and you have to completely change the entire conversation to Kamala Harris instead, it means you have no response. Make a thread on Kamala Harris and stick to the topic. I doubt many people will defend her. You are one of the only people that ever brings her up.

 

[Toons]

I wonder if you have burned some Teslas or not recently. "Hero delivering justice"

I've not. I've also not fired tens of thousands of people for no reason either though.

 

[Rentahamster]

Republicans stopped being the party of big business since long time ago. Businesses love power and republicans haven't had power for years and years. Democrats accumulated so much power that at this point almost every (if not every) industry has been supporting democrats - from traditional hollywood to big tech. Hell, even the military industrial complex stopped being republican's forte and switched to democrats. Big pharma? Democrats. Republican influence has been on decline for years and years, and arguably only Trump was kinda able to bring them to power again (and again). GOP has been a lame duck pushover for years with the only support from Israeli lobby but that's it.

You didn't engage with my thought experiment. I'll go through it line by line.

Which party wants to reduce environmental and safety regulations? - This is Republicans
Which party wants to reduce the power of unions? - This is Republicans
Which party wants to privatize more of the public sector? - This is mostly Republicans
Which party wants to give more tax cuts to those billionaires and lower the corporate tax rates of the companies those billionaires run? - Both parties are funded a lot by rich donors but for the most part Republicans push tax cuts for the rich more than Democrats do.
Which party wants to make it easier to donate unlimited amounts of money through Super PACs via court cases like Citizens United and other such means? - More Republicans support Citizens United than Democrats.

Are any of these not factual? Next, my final question - Now ask yourself what do billionaires like more? That stuff I just laid out or the opposite of that stuff?

All those policies I laid out - they help billionaires. That's why they donate to Republicans more than Democrats. They want policies that are favorable to them.

Your knowledge of American politics is a decade out of date

I don't believe it is. Your sources are inaccurate. All you need to do is check Open Secrets.

Who are the biggest donors in the 2024 election? Top 7 donated to Republicans.

Who are the Biggest Donors?

Who are the biggest donors in the 2024 election cycle? See the details.

www.opensecrets.org

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/biggest-campaign-donors-election-2024/

The top notable megadonors for Republicans dwarf the Democrats.

https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2024-11-05/the-biggest-political-donors-of-the-2024-election

 

[Unknown Soldier]

You didn't engage with my thought experiment. I'll go through it line by line.

Which party wants to reduce environmental and safety regulations? - This is Republicans
Which party wants to reduce the power of unions? - This is Republicans
Which party wants to privatize more of the public sector? - This is mostly Republicans
Which party wants to give more tax cuts to those billionaires and lower the corporate tax rates of the companies those billionaires run? - Both parties are funded a lot by rich donors but for the most part Republicans push tax cuts for the rich more than Democrats do.
Which party wants to make it easier to donate unlimited amounts of money through Super PACs via court cases like Citizens United and other such means? - More Republicans support Citizens United than Democrats.

Are any of these not factual? Next, my final question - Now ask yourself what do billionaires like more? That stuff I just laid out or the opposite of that stuff?

All those policies I laid out - they help billionaires. That's why they donate to Republicans more than Democrats. They want policies that are favorable to them.



I don't believe it is. Your sources are inaccurate. All you need to do is check Open Secrets.

Who are the biggest donors in the 2024 election? Top 7 donated to Republicans.

Who are the Biggest Donors?

Who are the biggest donors in the 2024 election cycle? See the details.

www.opensecrets.org

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/biggest-campaign-donors-election-2024/

The top notable megadonors for Republicans dwarf the Democrats.

https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2024-11-05/the-biggest-political-donors-of-the-2024-election

Your answer is based on intentionally incomplete information

https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presidential-race

How do you think Kamala Harris had almost 3 times the amount of donations from committee sources that Donald Trump did? It's because there were more TOTAL wealthy donors to the Democrats than Republicans, which is exactly what my linked Twitter post said. The Top 3 donors are only interesting from the standpoint of who is whaling the most on elections, and for the record Michael Bloomberg spent $1 BILLION of his own money on his failed run for President so that dude has technically "donated" more than anyone else, just to himself

 

[Quixz]

You have to sit back and admire the way Elon navigates through business, the guy just seems to be making crazy moves that are continuing to bring in more billions.

 

[a'la mode]

The whole point of moonshot projects is to advance what "today's tech" means. Asimo was a novelty item. ML and CV are far enough along now that building a viable operating system is possible.

Elon's stated timetables and price point for consumer release of Optimus are absurd, however.

Sure, you could argue that it's pushing tech forward a bit, but it's still missing applications. After all the whole point is that Optimus is not presented as a research project, but sold and marketed as an appliance, to be readily deployed into nebulous tasks at home and in the factory.

No one has just defined those tasks or even suggested what it could be better at than today's solutions or specialized robots. Great, your bipedal robot managed to amble from point A to point B - you just still need to figure out what the heck it's supposed to be doing at point B.

 

[Rentahamster]

Your answer is based on intentionally incomplete information

https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presidential-race

How do you think Kamala Harris had almost 3 times the amount of donations from committee sources that Donald Trump did? It's because there were more TOTAL wealthy donors to the Democrats than Republicans, which is exactly what my linked Twitter post said. The Top 3 donors are only interesting from the standpoint of who is whaling the most on elections, and for the record Michael Bloomberg spent $1 BILLION of his own money on his failed run for President so that dude has technically "donated" more than anyone else, just to himself

Intentionally incomplete? I don't think so. I'm actually trying to be intentionally complete and show the whole landscape.

My answer and sources show a much broader perspective than the Fox News clip and the X post. I'm looking at the overall picture. In the case you just pointed out, yes the candidate committee money is higher in Harris' lane. But why is that? One reason is that Republicans are more likely to use opportunities given to them through Citizens United to utilize soft and dark money, whereas the hard (more strictly regulated) money goes to the Democrats. Harris here of course has more hard money so her candidate committee money is higher, and when you look at the details, 40% of it came from small individual donations. When you look at the details of Trump's source of funds, only 29% comes from small individual donations.

Furthermore, just look at the business/labor split among contributions. That's also very telling. The vast majority of labor donations goes towards Democrats. While both parties are generally terrible on labor in the modern era, as you can tell by how much the "business" number dwarfs the "labor" number, the Democrats are still better for labor interests than Republicans are.

https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/business-labor-ideology-split

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Intentionally incomplete? I don't think so. I'm actually trying to be intentionally complete and show the whole landscape.

My answer and sources show a much broader perspective than the Fox News clip and the X post. I'm looking at the overall picture. In the case you just pointed out, yes the candidate committee money is higher in Harris' lane. But why is that? One reason is that Republicans are more likely to use opportunities given to them through Citizens United to utilize soft and dark money, whereas the hard (more strictly regulated) money goes to the Democrats. Harris here of course has more hard money so her candidate committee money is higher, and when you look at the details, 40% of it came from small individual donations. When you look at the details of Trump's source of funds, only 29% comes from small individual donations.

Furthermore, just look at the business/labor split among contributions. That's also very telling. The vast majority of labor donations goes towards Democrats. While both parties are generally terrible on labor in the modern era, as you can tell by how much the "business" number dwarfs the "labor" number, the Democrats are still better for labor interests than Republicans are.

https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/business-labor-ideology-split

I think it's funny that you try to show me a chart where you are talking about a business/labor split and highlight $67 million to Democrats and $9.2 million to Republicans by "Labor"

And then you completely ignore the $2.1 BILLION to Democrats versus the $1.6 BILLION to Republicans by BUSINESS

I don't think you are proving anything resembling what you think are proving

 

[Rentahamster]

I think it's funny that you try to show me a chart where you are talking about a business/labor split and highlight $67 million to Democrats and $9.2 million to Republicans by "Labor"

And then you completely ignore the $2.1 BILLION to Democrats versus the $1.6 BILLION to Republicans by BUSINESS

I don't think you are proving anything resembling what you think are proving

It proves exactly what I said it in the post. Both parties are pro business, but Democrats are more pro labor than Republicans are. It's pretty obvious when you look at which political parties are trying to make it harder to unionize, and which parties are trying to keep the minimum wage low.