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[Dr_Ifto]

People need to get a grip. These are nothing burgers. I thought politics was banned on this site.

 

[viveks86]

The PERSONAL choice of not buying the game has nothing to do with pushing for its cancelation. We won't call names in their social accounts or open any .org campaign. Just not buy and move on.

How is that even comparable to "the wizard game" situation?

Yeah I wouldn't call it cancelation as you aren't trying to ban the game.

But making such choices based on an individual's personal opinion is really silly. At least if you did it if the the company openly declares that as their official stance, then you are sending some message. This is just starving yourself over someone else's stupidity. Something the companies actually can't control.

Hate speech is still protected speech. It is actually against US laws to fire someone for their personal opinions. They can come up with some other excuse to do so, but they can easily get sued for it for wrongful termination.

But yeah, if your conscience is so sensitive to farts-in-the-wind, then it's your prerogative at the end of the day. A good way to save money too!

 

[lestar]

Just looks like free speech to me.

Indeed, but free speech doesn't mean free of consequences

 

[kruis]

I wonder if this will include visa revoking for ones already here.

This is too much. I hate the people who gave a thumbs up when they heard Charlie Kirk was killed, but on the other hand, I don't want a government keeping tabs on all those leftish idiots all over the world who pushed that like button and punishing them for their thought crimes. I don't want to live under a social credit score system where the government can remove your civil rights without you actually breaking any civil laws.

 

[Arsic]

Tossing this and my two shirts today lol.

Time to get a new piece of art for above this window.

 

[The_Mike]

It's rather ironic that the side which is religious only offers thoughts and prayers to kids being killed on daily basis. Yesterday a Colorado school was shot up.

Knock off with your "ironic" bullshit. It applies to both sides.

I'm not Christian or even living in the US.

So. Offering thoughts and prayers are equallibg getting shot over having a different opinion.

That some mental gymnastics in here.

I'm jumping out of this thread. I'm shocked people are allowed to be this hateful in here.
Matter if fact, I'm probably more surprised that we have this many hateful people in here. I thought they all left with Era, but probably had their account on hiatus until they could cheer deaths over people they disagree with.

Smfh

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

This is too much. I hate the people who gave a thumbs up when they heard Charlie Kirk was killed, but on the other hand, I don't want a government keeping tabs on all those leftish idiots all over the world who pushed that like button and punishing them for their thought crimes. I don't want to live under a social credit score system where the government can remove your civilian rights without you actually breaking any civil laws.

This. It's honestly just to give attention to the diehards who are upset and want something to happen. There's very little actual substance to this, but like a lot of things we do now, it "sounds good".

And, not that this thread is really about video games at all at this point, but how is this in any way "conservative"? Is it the party of original interpretation of the meaning of the Constitution and civil liberties, or not? TJ might have some questions for sure, if he were around for this. I think this a lot nowadays, but I honestly don't recognize this party as the one that existed in 2000 or even 2004. I don't even know what it's supposed to be, any more.

 

[ReyBrujo]

What? Free speech with consequences?
Are you really a mentally challenged psychopath, or just a troll choosing the wrong time trying to be funny?

There's nothing to reply to in your attack.

BUT, people around you might, and no one is gonna guarantee the outcome.

"Might", sure. But he puts it as a "must". "Feel free to say what you want but get banned". That's not freedom of speech, that's literally the opposite of freedom of speech.

 

[Romulus]

The tolerate left.

 

[Perrott]

Just to be clear, David Cage and Quantic Dream were found innocent / not guilty of all the different court cases and both internal and external investigations made by their national, regional or municipal institutions and auditors.

Oh, absolutely -- and I cannot wait for Star Wars Eclipse.

I was just taking that situation as an example of the separation between choosing to boycott a work over the wrongdoings (alleged or not) of what by all accounts was the creator of the product vs a no-name artist in the trenches.

 

[SScorpio]

This is too much. I hate the people who gave a thumbs up when they heard Charlie Kirk was killed, but on the other hand, I don't want a government keeping tabs on all those leftish idiots all over the world who pushed that like button and punishing them for their thought crimes. I don't want to live under a social credit score system where the government can remove your civilian rights without you actually breaking any civil laws.

What rights are being violated? The support of terrorism has always made you ineligible to travel to many countries, and we've had several students on visa having them revoke for just this reason.

 

[Senua]

People need to get a grip. These are nothing burgers. I thought politics was banned on this site.

 

[Lokaum D+]

Guess yall don't like their free speech either?

This country is so ass backwards

lol, you see, we like free speech so much that your sorry ass isnt banned from here even with this stupid take.

 

[Celcius]

Tossing this and my two shirts today lol.

Time to get a new piece of art for above this window.

Y'all, there are crazy/wild people who work on ALL games that have opinions that we don't.
Are you guys really going to stop gaming because 1 or 2 devs that worked on a game you were looking forward to had bad takes?

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Just to be clear, David Cage and Quantic Dream were found innocent / not guilty of all the different court cases and both internal and external investigations made by their national, regional or municipal institutions and auditors.

To be clear, the guy's obviously not the best employer to work for, and where there's smoke there's fire. There wasn't a vast conspiracy to ruin a standout guy.

 

[Atrus]

On one hand being from the UK and being an outsider looking in. Its hard to feel sorry for the guy when he said shit like this



Practice what the preach and all that, but on the other hand when did social media become open for people directly linked to a businesses to say shit like this?

People like that usually mean other people should die, never themselves.

 

[Lokaum D+]

Y'all, there are crazy/wild people who work on ALL games that have opinions that we don't.
Are you guys really going to stop gaming because 1 or 2 devs that worked on a game you were looking forward to had bad takes?

its not about stop gaming, its about choosing what he want to play and support.

If you are cheering assassination on your social media, with your company logo on it and the company does nothing i can only assume that the company supports your massage and some ppl just dont want to support a company that is ok with the assassination of innocent ppl.

 

[Bojji]

"Might", sure. But he puts it as a "must". "Feel free to say what you want but get banned". That's not freedom of speech, that's literally the opposite of freedom of speech.

Yep. I think that those people should lose their jobs and corporations that hired them should think twice before hiring someone radicalized like that.

But I don't think they should be prosecuted by law for this.

 

[Black_Stride]

Twisting my words like a proud leftist.

Want my address as well and time on when I'm home so you can put a hoodie on and load your Glock before knocking politely on my door?

<---- Not American, not leftist, never even seen a Glock in real life let alone held or owned one.


I wont twist your words ill post them verbatim.
:
I'm not against free speech, but there's consequences, and cheering for death of people should be a consequence and a bannable offense.


How would word that without it meaning you want to silence people who express their free speech by "cheering" that Kirk is dead.




P.S
You still havent posted anyone in this thread who is cheering that Kirk got murked?

P.P.S
Check the ban page, mods are taking people out.

 

[IFireflyl]

That's a contradictory statement.

<---- Not American, not leftist, never even seen a Glock in real life let alone held or owned one.


I wont twist your words ill post them verbatim.
:
I'm not against free speech, but there's consequences, and cheering for death of people should be a consequence and a bannable offense.


How would word that without it meaning you want to silence people who express their free speech by "cheering" that Kirk is dead.




P.S
You still havent posted anyone in this thread who is cheering that Kirk got murked?

P.P.S
Check the ban page, mods are taking people out.

I don't know why you bother responding if you're not educated on the subject matter, and you don't have the decency to look up what freedom of speech means. Freedom of speech means the government cannot censor or punish speech simply because it is offensive, unpopular, or critical of the government. It has nothing to do with private individuals or companies. If you go to work and tell a customer to suck a dick, you're almost certainly getting fired. It's not because you didn't have freedom of speech. It's because the private company that you work for has their own rules regarding what language can be used. A kid can tell their mom to eat shit, and their mom is likely to backhand them into the past. Free speech, but with consequences.

 

[Celcius]

its not about stop gaming, its about choosing what to play

What's your favorite game? I'm sure we can find one or two of the devs that worked on that title also having bad takes

 

[Pelao]

My hot take is that murder is bad.

 

[TintoConCasera]

The tolerate left.

why are they always fat and ugly? where are the leftist qt3.14s at?

 

[Arsic]

Y'all, there are crazy/wild people who work on ALL games that have opinions that we don't.
Are you guys really going to stop gaming because 1 or 2 devs that worked on a game you were looking forward to had bad takes?

From what's posted here it seems too many folks in sucker punch are fucked.

Like my prior post said.. I'm not even republican. I separate art and artist often. But this is people openly celebrating a guy killed in cold blood in front of his wife and kids.

This isn't something I can just put blinders on to enjoy my little vidjagame. The industry has hundreds of things to play every year. I'm not losing sleep over missing out on sucker punch games lol.

And I'm not stopping gaming. Just focusing on people who deserve my money.

It's basic shit "if you have nothing nice to say don't say anything at all."

I'll reverse course if sucker punch decides to fire a clown or two because of their gross behavior.

 

[Xtib81]

Wow that's crazy. They should be held accountable and be fired.

 

[mathheeww]

Are you implying it's worth the bandwidth?

does anyone still pay internet with data cap in 2025? couldn't be me

 

[Lokaum D+]

What's your favorite game? I'm sure we can find one or two of the devs that worked on that title also having bad takes

bad takes are different than cheering assassination, this goes beyond bad take.

 

[Xtib81]

That being said I'm not American and I know they love freedom of speech more than anything, so isn't it legal to say whatever the hell you want in this country?

 

[SuperC]

The tolerate left.

Most of them are mentally ill who take SSRI drugs, these drugs make people lack humanity and empathy

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

No chance Sony can be pressed in to firing these clowns ?

 

[The_Mike]

How would word that without it meaning you want to silence people who express their free speech by "cheering" that Kirk is dead

I don't think I'm capable of explaining it to you because you will just continue to use your hateful ideology.

You will always use my own words against me no matter what I'm saying.

You refuse to understand it because you want to be a troll.

 

[Negotiator101]

I'm in shock. But one thing is sure, I will never buy any games from the developer that are cheering this. It's a crazy world we live in.

Well it's not really the developer rather an individual within that has made this very stupid comment. We all work with people who's opinions don't align with our own, the Studio as a whole I'm sure don't think the same way.

 

[Celcius]

No chance Sony can be pressed in to firing these clowns ?

I just have to say it's ironic to post this with Ronald McDonald as your avatar and user name haha

 

[Radical_3d]

I love that usual Sony apologists are defending devs (and blaming the victim) just because they work for Sony. So stupid...

I am not, tho?

 

[Draugoth]

I don't really understand why these people open talk about politics on the internet, they should follow the example of Manga artists and shut the fuck up and focus on the games, there's hundreds of people following what they post on social media.

 

[JORMBO]

From what's posted here it seems too many folks in sucker punch are fucked.

Like my prior post said.. I'm not even republican. I separate art and artist often. But this is people openly celebrating a guy killed in cold blood in front of his wife and kids.

This isn't something I can just put blinders on to enjoy my little vidjagame. The industry has hundreds of things to play every year. I'm not losing sleep over missing out on sucker punch games lol.

And I'm not stopping gaming. Just focusing on people who deserve my money.

It's basic shit "if you have nothing nice to say don't say anything at all."

I'll reverse course if sucker punch decides to fire a clown or two because of their gross behavior.

That's where I am at too. I see several people from their team openly cheering on an assassination of a guy that had a wife and kids. I have more games then I can play. I can easily skip this one. In addition to that, when teams start to fill up with these types of people the end product usually ends up being mediocre anyways. We've seen several example of that recently. So throw together these types of psychopaths, Sony's mediocre output this generation and my limited time and this game is not worth buying to me.

 

[Draugoth]

I clicked on this thread hoping for a totally different vibe in here

We already have a tits celebrating thread, where's the ass celebrating thread?

 

[Saber]

Are you guys calling for a game to be cancelled because of their personal views?



Isn't this exactly the things you hate about the left?

No. Don't be stupidly obtuse.
What people are asking is to those people to be held accountable. The least it could be said about the game is that people no longer wanting to buy it, but its their decision.

 

[The_Mike]

Well it's not really the developer rather an individual within that has made this very stupid comment. We all work with people who's opinions don't align with our own, the Studio as a whole I'm sure don't think the same way.

You really don't think that the other people in the company shares his opinions?

They are making games about hating white people and pushing political agenda in their games.

It's a developer problem

 

[Lokaum D+]

Well it's not really the developer rather an individual within that has made this very stupid comment. We all work with people who's opinions don't align with our own, the Studio as a whole I'm sure don't think the same way.

imagine if someone at the same studio came forth cheering at George Floyd death, what do you think it would happen to this person before noon ?

 

[Js562]

It's a damn shame people support another man being killed in front of his wife and friends. That's free speech for you but you won't catch me me saying shit like that. Both sides have bad takes but killing a man is a whole another story beyond freedom of speech. Then there's the gun debate and I always tell people it's always a dumb little shit that does the shooting ruining it for somebody else that carries with more gun laws.

 

[viveks86]

Y'all, there are crazy/wild people who work on ALL games that have opinions that we don't.
Are you guys really going to stop gaming because 1 or 2 devs that worked on a game you were looking forward to had bad takes?

It's a nice painting though. I'm literally looking at my walls right now wondering if it can find a home here.

 

[Black_Stride]

I don't know why you bother responding if you're not educated on the subject matter, and you don't have the decency to look up what freedom of speech means. Freedom of speech means the government cannot censor or punish speech simply because it is offensive, unpopular, or critical of the government. It has nothing to do with private individuals or companies. If you go to work and tell a customer to suck a dick, you're almost certainly getting fired. It's not because you didn't have freedom of speech. It's because the private company that you work for has their own rules regarding what language can be used. A kid can tell their mom to eat shit, and their mom is likely to backhand them into the past.

I know freedom of speech does not equal freedom of consequence.
I see why GAF has a No Politics rule.....


Im out of this debate.

 

[Thanati]

This is too much. I hate the people who gave a thumbs up when they heard Charlie Kirk was killed, but on the other hand, I don't want a government keeping tabs on all those leftish idiots all over the world who pushed that like button and punishing them for their thought crimes. I don't want to live under a social credit score system where the government can remove your civilian rights without you actually breaking any civil laws.

Agreed. Just like the right-wing people who laughed and celebrated when Pelosi and her husband were almost killed or when they mocked the assassination of Democratic lawmaker, Melissa Hortman .

 

[Negotiator101]

imagine is someone at the same studio came forth cheering at George Floyd death, what do you think it would happen to this person before noon ?

I agree the person who posted that is not a good person but you can't think the whole studio thinks the same way, at least I hope they don't. Watch this space because I imagine the developer will face serious repercussions for this.

 

[Bojji]

I am not, tho?

I saw first 3-4 pages, don't know what happened after that (didn't notice your posts).

 

[Fake]

That's where I am at too. I see several people from their team openly cheering on an assassination of a guy that had a wife and kids. I have more games then I can play. I can easily skip this one. In addition to that, when teams start to fill up with these types of people the end product usually ends up being mediocre anyways. We've seen several example of that recently. So throw together these types of psychopaths, Sony's mediocre output this generation and my limited time and this game is not worth buying to me.

What I don't understand is, even if they don't like the guy, they could easily opt to remain in silence.

But they don't. Thats the scary part.

 

[Sephimoth]

ChatGPT:

In the U.S., free speech protections are very broad.

• Incitement: Speech directly calling for imminent violence isn't protected (per Brandenburg v. Ohio).
• Cheering/gloating: As distasteful as it is, celebrating someone's death usually is protected, since it's not a direct call to action.

So yes — free speech typically covers gloating, but not actual incitement.

IMO that should be amended via executive order. Cheering or gloating kind of enables it (and similar onward cases)?

 

[Radical_3d]

I saw first 3-4 pages, don't know what happened after that (didn't notice your posts).

 

[OccamsLightsaber]

There is a little confusion between cancellation (traditional) and cancellation (new meaning) going on here I think.

Is the new meaning...Canceling pre orders?