This is general problem with most non informed casual gamers, they are hivemind and don't actually know what they are talking about so they ruin things for the real gamers. These hivemind gamers regurgitate wrong information and hate. Thank god Naughty Dog made TLOU 2 and didn't listen to the hivemind…
wait TLOU 2 uses raytracing?
No, I'm talking about in general. Thank god Naughty Dog made the version of TLOU 2 they wanted and didn't change stances when it got attacked.
for the graphics?
I play games on a PS5 Pro or Xbox Series X and don't own a high-end PC.
I agree, picture should be crisp enough to not destroy the visuals, that's what upscaling technology is for…I play games on a PS5 Pro or Xbox Series X and don't own a high-end PC.
(A) 720p / Ultra Setting / HWRT (more Low-Resolution) / 30-40fps
(B) 1440p / Mid Setting / w/o RT/ 60fps
Between (A) and (B), I think (B) looks better when playing on a 4K TV.
This is because no matter how beautiful and cutting-edge the graphics are, if the resolution and frame rate are too low, they will appear blurry and incomprehensible to console players.
Yotei and DS2 look crisp and sharp in 4K TV on the base PS5 (even if some of the graphics tech is outdated).
It would be difficult to achieve high resolution, frame rate, and advanced lighting at the same time on a 10-12 TFLOPS console.
As an example, here are some screenshots of Hellblade 2 that I took when playing on Xbox Series X. *30fps Mode
most UE5 games on consoles are 1440p reconstructed to 4k using TSR. Not 720p in the 30 fps mode.I play games on a PS5 Pro or Xbox Series X and don't own a high-end PC.
(A) 720p / Ultra Setting / HWRT (more Low-Resolution) / 30-40fps
(B) 1440p / Mid Setting / w/o RT/ 60fps
Between (A) and (B), I think (B) looks better when playing on a 4K TV.
This is because no matter how beautiful and cutting-edge the graphics are, if the resolution and frame rate are too low, they will appear blurry and incomprehensible to console players.
Yotei and DS2 look crisp and sharp in 4K TV on the base PS5 (even if some of the graphics tech is outdated).
It would be difficult to achieve high resolution, frame rate, and advanced lighting at the same time on a 10-12 TFLOPS console.
As an example, here are some screenshots of Hellblade 2 that I took when playing on Xbox Series X. *30fps Mode
lol this screenshot looked next gen on my iphone screen. on my 4k tv, meh. Maybe i need to play these games on a 6 inch screen.From twitter. Some of y'all comparing Yotei to other sony 1st party cross-gen games are acting silly. TLOU/Horizon could never.
This looks good. Its the best area in the game.
That does look good no doubt, it's just hard to feel THAT impressed given how linear that section is. It's literally just walking through the water in a straight line.UE5 man. Amazing level of detail on the riverbanks. Also, Those incredible reflections holy shit.
yeah the game overall feels very dated because they kept the level design the same which in turn kind of keeps the visuals from having the same kind of impact. it doesnt have that scale we have come to expect since the ps360 era. of course, the final chase sequence is still as grand as ever, but the forest levels definitely couldve been expanded a bit.
Agreed, final chase is Kojima at his best!
This shot of the mountain looks incredibleFrom twitter. Some of y'all comparing Yotei to other sony 1st party cross-gen games are acting silly. TLOU/Horizon could never.
This. I thought the mountain shot was RDR2 while quickly scrolling by lol
UE5 man. Amazing level of detail on the riverbanks. Also, Those incredible reflections holy shit.
The second screenshot isn't great, but the first is very good, ngl. Sometimes Yotei looks as good as AA KCD2.I usually prefer it that way and don't use the clear sky compositions:
Lmao, more like 50%.Yeah, since I have yet to play a game that looks consistently great, I can deal with 5% crap visuals if the rest is fine or fantastic.
Just discovered the ugly coast of the Yotei grasslands, behold:
Of course it sucks that it ain't flawless, but it doesn't really matter to me, for I'm rewarded with greatness most of the time:
Nevertheless, if all remaining areas I haven't discovered yet look cheap, I'll be a bit pissed, that's for sure!
Here no1 has to state its not a crossgen, one look and even most casual gamer recognizes top quality visuals right away, no need for proof with photomode screenies, tiny gifs etc, every1 with eyes see it right away, proper current gen fidelityUE5 man. Amazing level of detail on the riverbanks. Also, Those incredible reflections holy shit.
Barebones implementation of rtgi in 2025 is better than the highs of horizon?
Shut up you douche wagon
Those two pics also show how scale wise Yotei is infinitely more realistic (would i dare to say photorealisticSorry Wolfy I know forbidden west is your baby but guerilla really shot themselves in the foot with their lighting setup for the game. I called it out some time ago that Horizon would age poorly because of it and here we are.
) than horizon, shadows or anything really.
Complaining about GOY while praising Horizon is odd to me. Horizon is one of the most visually inconsistent games I've ever played. Interiors had lighting that looked almost broken a lot of the time. GOY clearly has shortcomings, but using Horizon to argue against it doesn't really make sense to me.Sorry Wolfy I know forbidden west is your baby but guerilla really shot themselves in the foot with their lighting setup for the game. I called it out some time ago that Horizon would age poorly because of it and here we are.
Horizon has the excuse of being a 3 years old crossgen, yotei should destroy horizon.
It should do, but for some reason they seemed to have only been given a small budget. I'm glad they at least started to use rtgi, hopefully guerilla does the same with their next project because a lot of their lighting issues would be improved with rtgi.
Yes we get it, yotei looks good on large grass fields, it still look worse than this when you actually get close to thingsSorry Wolfy I know forbidden west is your baby but guerilla really shot themselves in the foot with their lighting setup for the game. I called it out some time ago that Horizon would age poorly because of it and here we are.
Horizon has awful mid distance detail that it tries to hide in fog but fails and far distance is easily worse than goy. Horizon has barely ps3 level lighting in caves and most other interiors. Horizon has obvious geometry, shadow and object pop-in when flying. I agree GOY shouldn have been pushed further tech wise, but Horizon is not any better and is worse in many areas.Yes we get it, yotei looks good on large grass fields, it still look worse than this when you actually get close to things
If guerrilla made a game almost 4 years inside nextgen and nextgen only, it would have rtgi, the game was crossgen, they had to cut something.
I think horizon is much better in many aspects compared to yotei so i disagree with that statement, unless you meant something different.
Sorry Wolfy I know forbidden west is your baby but guerilla really shot themselves in the foot with their lighting setup for the game. I called it out some time ago that Horizon would age poorly because of it and here we are.
Not if the budget was 1/3rd of horizon and the studio half the size
But still chained to a ps4 hardware.
Gorgeous.
Breathtaking!
Team Okami here.
Honestly though, we shouldn't even be debating this, the fact is GOY should have been a clear upgrade over a cross gen game from years ago and is part of why so many on this thread are disappointed with Sony this gen. Personally I think GOY is nicer to look at than horizon which had very obvious weak points to me and I think the art style is a bit garish in parts and I'm glad they're at least trying out RTGI. It's clearly sub-par on the geometry front and the water is especially poor. Great art direction shouldn't have to pick up the slack for mediocre tech, sony 1st party should be making full use of the hardware a full 5 years into the generation.
UE5 man. Amazing level of detail on the riverbanks. Also, Those incredible reflections holy shit.
Sorry Wolfy I know forbidden west is your baby but guerilla really shot themselves in the foot with their lighting setup for the game. I called it out some time ago that Horizon would age poorly because of it and here we are.
Exactly!
