Jez Corden - Day and Date is Coming (Sony on PC)

It wouldn't surprise me if we start seeing some form of salty people that try and start a campaign against Lord Gaben!
I think Valve's facilitation of gambling, especially underage gambling via CounterStrike, and the fact that your account essentially disappears when you die, would both be good places to start.

The gambling stuff is terrible, and your account is an asset with monetary value; not only should you be able to pass it to someone upon death, but you should be able to legally sell/transfer it anytime you like.
 


I think its just logical at this point.
Its literally cash on the table.

The ps5 user base is huge but its not growing beyond the initial base how do you then make it grow and significantly? You go to the platform withe the user base which is PC.

I do think it will be a launcher and they will probably be stubborn about it and then eventually decide to go on steam like Ubisoft Microsoft and EA before them. All of which had launchers sub services and cross saves. Steam is the best service with the best company backing them so they will need to bend the knee just like MS did when they waded into the console market.
So Sony suddenly don;t care about PlayStation sales? Because that's what will drop if they put day and date on PC especially as one of their competitors is moving towards PC rather than console. Then you have Steam Machines probably around similar prices also.

And with MS now going the 'expensive' route that may well increase the PlayStation userbase, perhaps not significantly but does it have to if its selling 120-150 million consoles each gen? The games eventually get released on PC anyway so those willing to wait won't change so I don;t really see any advantage at all for them to release games day and date on PC (unless its multiplayer/GAAS)

Basically, Sony don't have to play 'follow the loser' and copy what MS are doing.
 
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I think Valve's facilitation of gambling, especially underage gambling via CounterStrike, and the fact that your account essentially disappears when you die, would both be good places to start.

The gambling stuff is terrible, and your account is an asset with monetary value; not only should you be able to pass it to someone upon death, but you should be able to legally sell/transfer it anytime you like.

I mean, I think you should definitely be able to pass it on when you pass away.

Another amazing thing that Steam does though is family sharing. If I die, my kids and immediate family have the sharing of my account, unless they close it? how would they know you have died, i dunno.

Family sharing on Steam pisses over every other option on consoles etc. Its really amazing.
 
At 8 GB VRAM, you ain't play any Sony published title.

Funny because I saw Spiderman 2 being demoed on an AMD 5500 RTX 5060 8GB on a 4k TV with raytracing and DLSS and it was locked to 60 FPS. No frame gen. It looked great too.

Probably was lower settings than PS5 pro but looked nice and crisp.
 
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Its great that Valve literally didnt do anything but be more pro consumer and its all finally paying off.

These console manufacturers are all bending the knee and releasing their games on Steam and Steam just sat there laughing.

It wouldn't surprise me if we start seeing some form of salty people that try and start a campaign against Lord Gaben!

Precisely the rumours are Sony releasing their own launcher, so probably neglecting Steam.
 
They will have the games on steam within 6 to 12 months of the official launcher at first and then move to day one like every other publisher, within 5 years id say.
If they actually do cross-buy between PC and PS consoles, cloud etc..that sounds like a huge incentive that others don't have. Plus, they will probably be okay to sell a few less units on their own launcher if it means they get 100% of revenue for their games than on Steam and getting only 70% of revenue.
 
So Sony suddenly don;t care about PlayStation sales? Because that's what will drop if they put day and date on PC especially as one of their competitors is moving towards PC rather than console. Then you have Steam Machines probably around similar prices also.

And with MS now going the 'expensive' route that may well increase the PlayStation userbase, perhaps not significantly but does it have to if its selling 120-150 million consoles each gen? The games eventually get released on PC anyway so those willing to wait won't change so I don;t really see any advantage at all for them to release games day and date on PC (unless its multiplayer/GAAS)

Basically, Sony don't have to play 'follow the loser' and copy what MS are doing.
Nonsense people who want consoles will still buy consoles its not the same market.

But those that want ps5 games but not consoles will buy the games.

Exclusives dont equal console sales in isolation.

You need to realise that there is a market for consoles along side pc and there is also a market for people on both.
 
Sony doesn't have what it takes to fight Steam on PC. It's pure delusion to think they'll keep their exclusives locked to one store. The company's not gonna throw money away just to please forum fanboys
 
If they actually do cross-buy between PC and PS consoles, cloud etc..that sounds like a huge incentive that others don't have. Plus, they will probably be okay to sell a few less units on their own launcher if it means they get 100% of revenue for their games than on Steam and getting only 70% of revenue.

Just like the Xbox store and Windows currently. Just like MS Sony will realise pretty quickly that they need to be on Steam day one and will use other things to incentivise the purchase on Sonys launcher. Such as cross buy and progression.
 
This dude is the biggest liar of all time. He's posting about how sad it is that people want companies to die when he was writing nonstop articles and tweeting during the Microsoft/Activision hoping sony/playstation would suffer from the deal. Now he wants to act like he's a genuine fan who isn't a fanboy at all and cares about every company. Stfu.

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"Without any single company dominating….unless it's Microsoft"
 
Its great that Valve literally didnt do anything but be more pro consumer and its all finally paying off.

These console manufacturers are all bending the knee and releasing their games on Steam and Steam just sat there laughing.

It wouldn't surprise me if we start seeing some form of salty people that try and start a campaign against Lord Gaben!
This is why I hope Steam will always be a private company. The difference where the consumer is the 'customer' in contract to public companies where the shareholder is.
 
I've been reading the same thing for 3-4 years and that moment never comes. I understand that Jez wants PS to commit suicide like Xbox, but for the moment it doesn't seem like it's going to happen.
 
Nonsense people who want consoles will still buy consoles its not the same market.

But those that want ps5 games but not consoles will buy the games.

Exclusives dont equal console sales in isolation.

You need to realise that there is a market for consoles along side pc and there is also a market for people on both.
Isn't the whole point of what MS is (rumoured) doing and what Steam Machines are doing is to blur the lines between console and PC? if not, then whats the point of those machines?

I mean, it's obvious that you believe what Jez is saying and you wholeheartedly want it to happen..... so you don't have to buy a PlayStation
 
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I'd argue the point of the GabeCube is make SteamOS more commonly used
Yes, in the living room, as an alternative to a console (and even a PC). But the form factor and OS make it so that it is, in effect, a PC console, no mouse and keyboard required. That in effect is definitely blurring the lines between console and PC.
 
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This tool box has zero clue what Sony is doing. Maybe he's right maybe he's not but he knows as much as we do.

There is some money out there if Sony does say and date releases, but it's bigger cash cow, the PlayStation platform, would lose value and I doubt Sony wants to risk that.
 
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They will have the games on steam within 6 to 12 months of the official launcher at first and then move to day one like every other publisher, within 5 years id say.

That's wishful thinking.
Hey, it could happen, but first Sony isn't like any other publisher, Sony has a 32 billion a year business behind and what it gets from PC is peanuts.
And thinking 5 yeas in advance o accommodate things to your wishes is just... well, wishful thinking. It could theoretically happen, but they could as well totally stop the PC ports because it's hurting the PS ecosystem, too.
I can play that too and see that in 5 years the new Steam machine has had the fate of the first and Gaben has retired and MS bought Valve for 100B and is ruining it, who knows?

For now, right now, Sony has Nixxes helping with PS5 games technical issues and not porting anything to PC.
 
Yes, in the living room, as an alternative to a console (and even a PC). But the form factor and OS make it so that it is, in effect, a PC console, no mouse and keyboard required. That in effect is definitely blurring the lines between console and PC.
I think they're more interested in having a viable alternative to windows. Windows has always been one of the major points of contempt to PC gaming as well as it's greatest risk, as there's always the chance MS will just close down the platform one day
 


It makes absolutely no sense for Sony to allow cross-buy between PC and PlayStation for its games.

It loses a potential double sale; the customer buys it at launch on PS5 and then, when it's released, on PC.

It encourages platform switching; the person buys it on PlayStation and gets a PC version so they can migrate whenever they want.

But they are maybe betting that they get 100% of that initial sale from more people or a chunk of them that they will only get 70% of by the time it hits steam. I imagine their research show very few people double dip (at least at full retail price).

I wouldn't rule out Playstation PC hybrids in future too, Project Amethyst provides them a nice pivot opportunity should they wish to do that, having a functional PC store is an obvious first step. Fuck it, let other publishers sell PC games through it with cross-buy. For me personally it would probably reduce the likelihood of making Steam my primary platform.
 
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