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My 5 year old budget RTX 3060TI (+ I5 12400f + 1440p monitor) is still rocking hard.Im actually suprised how good it runs newest games,particulary Battlefield 6 and Arc Raiders and they both look great,especialla ARC looks stunning

Without DLSS i get around 60fps
With DLSS i get 100fps+ STABLE while it looks identical compared to other

This means a lot because i have 1440p 144hz monitor and there is huge difference even between 60 and 100hz.

There is absolutely no reason to upgrade right now and i'll wait until RTX 6xxx series comes.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Yes, DLSS is amazing and as I get older and my eyes get weaker, the DLSS gets even better as I can't see the difference between it ON and OFF in terms of picture quality.

 

[HRK69]

My 3070 is still going strong!

I'm playing Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 and Battlefield 6 on high settings, consistently getting 80+ fps, so there's really no rush to upgrade just yet

Of course, I'd love a higher-performing PC, but for now, I'm still pretty content with how well modern games are running

 

[Gaiff]

My 2018 2080 Ti still plays everything great.

 

[Cakeboxer]

Yes, DLSS is amazing and as I get older and my eyes get weaker, the DLSS gets even better as I can't see the difference between it ON and OFF in terms of picture quality.

I feel you. I went to the eye doctor the other day. Diagnosis: You are old /;

 

[OverHeat]

True Story!

 

[Mister Wolf]

That and Frame Gen have been great. With those two around there really isn't a need to buy a new GPU every generation.

 

[xenosys]

I have a RTX 4090 so I'm not exactly struggling, but the extra 10-15% performance gained from playing on DLSS4 Performance over DLSS3 Quality and losing very little quality, if any, will probably stop me upgrading to a 6080/6090 in 2027.

Due to getting a good base framerate, tack on Frame Gen/Smooth Motion, and it's a nice bonus. I can still get 120FPS on 99.9% of titles @ 4K.

 

[ozz ex machina]

My 5 year old budget RTX 3060TI (+ I5 12400f + 1440p monitor) is still rocking hard.Im actually suprised how good it runs newest games,particulary Battlefield 6 and Arc Raiders and they both look great,especialla ARC looks stunning

Without DLSS i get around 60fps
With DLSS i get 100fps+ STABLE while it looks identical compared to other

This means a lot because i have 1440p 144hz monitor and there is huge difference even between 60 and 100hz.

There is absolutely no reason to upgrade right now and i'll wait until RTX 6xxx series comes.

People have different standards. I just upgraded from my 5800x3d and 3080. Mainly because even that cpu was causing annoying 1% drops and stuttering in arc raiders. I have 360hz monitor and am sensitive to input lag and drops. So yeah the upgrade has been well worth it for me. Different strokes for different folks.

 

[Kupfer]

I had to choose between the RX 9070 XT and the 5070ti for my new PC, and I decided on the 5070ti solely because of DLSS.
I just hope that I'll be still able to play games in 5 years in a decent quality.

 

[Crayon]

Yeah the shit really works.

 

[ThisIsMyDog]

DLSS4 is great, i have high hopes for my 5060ti 16GB to give me 6 years of gaming at 1440p.

 

[bbeach123]

Lossless scaling dual-gpu is a game changer too . Most games now run at 100–120 FPS(locked 60/120) 1440p high settings dlss Q-B on my RTX 3070 (x2 mode). I actually cancelled my upgrade plan this year and will wait for the 60 series instead.

 

[Durin]

The upgrade to the transformer model with DLSS4 really sold the tech for me, because I didn't fell like turning it down to balanced really hurt the experience at all, and for budget cards even more of a boon.

Mainly though, it's just better than generic solutions like TAA, which look terrible.

 

[hinch7]

That's the thing with Nvidia GPU's you get crazy good support even after several generations. Driver support only stopped for Maxwell and Pascal just recently. And then you get constant updates to the latest DLSS for RTX cards.

So glad I went with a 4070Ti some years ago instead of a 7900XT. If not for the power/heat savings but also things like DLSS 4, FG, RR and other neat features they added to my games.

 

[AltruisticFormality]

That and Frame Gen have been great. With those two around there really isn't a need to buy a new GPU every generation.

I understand that as a general statement but since this thread mentions the 3060Ti, Nvidia frame generation doesn't work on RTX 30 series, only on RTX 40 and MFG is still a RTX 50 exclusive feature.

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My 5 year old budget RTX 3060TI (+ I5 12400f + 1440p monitor) is still rocking hard.Im actually suprised how good it runs newest games,particulary Battlefield 6 and Arc Raiders and they both look great,especialla ARC looks stunning

I'll argue that the 3060 Ti wasn't a budget graphics card with an MSRP of $399. More so when it launched around a time when the economic impact of COVID was on effect and one of the waves of crypto mining madness.
I remember looking at prices at launch, there was a brief window when you could get something close to MSRP but it didn't last that long. There were already some prices avobe €600 and even €800.

Also it turns out that the 3060Ti from 5 years ago is not that far from current budget options regarding performance and VRAM amount is the same.

In some cases the 3060Ti could be better because it uses the 16 PCIe lanes. When the VRAM runs out and reaching into system memory is needed the PCIe bandwith is more relevant. If you are on a platform with PCIe 4.0 or even 3.0 the performance degradation is worse if you only have 8 lanes (RTX 5050, 5060 and 5060 Ti are all PCIe 5.0 x8).

 

[DirtInUrEye]

As has been said many times before, DLSS > native

 

[Sentenza]

Uh, I'm "delaying buying a new PC" simply because I have a 3080ti and I can't even remember the last time I've played something that made me wish I had a stronger system.
I will upgrade at some point, maybe when Nvidia releases the series 6000 or whatever they'll call it, but I'm in no rush.

 

[Lucifers Beard]

Same, DLSS is a really great tool for increased performance and to my eyes DLSS sometimes looks better than whatever AA technique is included in the game.

 

[nkarafo]

Yes, DLSS is amazing and as I get older and my eyes get weaker, the DLSS gets even better as I can't see the difference between it ON and OFF in terms of picture quality.

That's not for the better because DLSS actually offers better image quality than regular TAA of FXAA.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

That's not for the better because DLSS actually offers better image quality than regular TAA of FXAA.

Yeah but I could tell the difference between performance and quality in the past. Not so much these days. Or maybe DLSS got so good over the years.

 

[GymWolf]

Sure, even if it feels like half of the big games at launch have broken dlss that barely gave you any performance uplift...

I never go down from dlss quality or dlaa so the framerate uplift is very small in most cases even when it work.

 

[daninthemix]

As has been said many times before, DLSS > native

Even in performance mode with the transformer model, which is totally nuts.

 

[nkarafo]

I never go down from dlss quality or dlaa so the framerate uplift is very small in most cases even when it work.

DLSS quality still gives me a lot of extra performance.

DlAA reduces performance though. So there's a very big gap between them.

 

[amigastar]

Yes, i love my 4070. It has DLSS and Frame Gen.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Look I like DLSS as much as the next guy but please don't try to tell me it looks exactly the same as native. Maybe you need glasses idk

 

[balls of snow]

Yep my old ass 3060 laptop can still run Unreal Engine 5 games at 1080p /60 with dlss. Wont upgrade until next gen with an oled screen.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

I had to choose between the RX 9070 XT and the 5070ti for my new PC, and I decided on the 5070ti solely because of DLSS.
I just hope that I'll be still able to play games in 5 years in a decent quality.

Yup, same here when I picked up my new PC less than a week ago. DLSS (transformer model) and frame-gen are just too good of a value to pass up (plus the improved RT capabilities).

 

[Aion002]

Yes. My laptop with a rtx 4050 can play any game from gamepass without issues at a good enough quality for me thanks to this dlss thing.

 

[Aressa]

My 4070 is crushing everything.

 

[GymWolf]

DLSS quality still gives me a lot of extra performance.

DlAA reduces performance though. So there's a very big gap between them.

Depends on the game.

Not all dlss quality are born equal.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Nvidia is god.

 

[Holammer]

I replaced my 1080 earlier this year. I played through Ratchet & Clank, Sackboy and Returnal at 60fps with the old trooper. I can see how DLSS capable cards should be able to hold up too.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

I used the RTX 2080 Ti for a week, and it could run every single game with decent results thanks to DLSS. The RTX2080ti has comparable performance to RTX3070 (just with more VRAM), so I think in games that arnt VRAM limited the RTX3070 should be fine too.

Look I like DLSS as much as the next guy but please don't try to tell me it looks exactly the same as native. Maybe you need glasses idk

A DLAA native will always look better than a DLSS image, but a TAA native image has less detail and more artefacts. There are however certain graphics effects that scale their quality with internal resolution. SSR, RT and Nanite look better with DLAA and TAA native. This can be seen in screenshots or from an extremely close distance to the monitor. Personally, I will always choose DLSS over DLAA/TAA because from normal viewing distance image quality appears the same (and often better if game use TAA) and it gives me a much higher framerate, which is clearly noticeable to me from any distance. I'll only consider using DLAA if my GPU has enough performance to reach my monitor's full potential.

 

[The_Mike]

DLSS is insane, but the new kid in town is even crazier.

Smooth Motion. Set it to on globally in your drivers. games that dont support dlss gets better performance as well. I can run anything 165 fps ultra settings on my 4070.

Even works on emulators. Playing PS2 games at 120 fps and RPCS3 games between 60 and 120 fps flawlessly

 

[JMZ555]

Still on my 1080ti

 

[Senua]

DLSS transformer is game changing. 1080p internal res looks shockingly good now

 

[DirtInUrEye]

DLSS transformer is game changing. 1080p internal res looks shockingly good now

It's daft how good transformer model is, but occasionally it brings its own issues that CNN didn't have. In Arc Raiders I have opted for CNN as it makes the awful fauna flickering artifacts much less obvious than they are with the transformer. So, Nvidia still has work to do.

 

[INC]

yes and no

bf6 ranges from 80-100fps on everything low and DLSS performance at 1440p, but want to be at least 1440p 144hz native and no DLSS on high to ultra (ill take DLSS quality/balanced tho if needed)

so i think im at the end of my PC life, but been wanting to upgrade for awhile

currently on 3700x and 2080super, with 32gb of 3200mhz ram

its done well for the 5-6 years ive had it.

 

[DirtInUrEye]

yes and no

bf6 ranges from 80-100fps on everything low and DLSS performance at 1440p, but want to be at least 1440p 144hz native and no DLSS on high to ultra (ill take DLSS quality/balanced tho if needed)

so i think im at the end of my PC life, but been wanting to upgrade for awhile

currently on 3700x and 2080super, with 32gb of 3200mhz ram

its done well for the 5-6 years ive had it.

Any reason why you're still striving for a native presentation? DLSS has been at a level that renders (arf!) native res obsolete for a while now.

 

[INC]

Any reason why you're still striving for a native presentation? DLSS has been at a level that renders (arf!) native res obsolete for a while now.

not really, just that it can, and a good datum point for the upgrade to test, on current set up, i may get 60+fps native

 

[T4keD0wN]

DLSS is insane, but the new kid in town is even crazier.

Smooth Motion. Set it to on globally in your drivers. games that dont support dlss gets better performance as well. I can run anything 165 fps ultra settings on my 4070.

Even works on emulators. Playing PS2 games at 120 fps and RPCS3 games between 60 and 120 fps flawlessly

Thats a bad idea, it doesnt work on everything. Non dx12/vulkan games, so dx11 games for example have speed issues if you cap you framerates in specific ways and itll always be worse than proper FG.

 

[Spyxos]

My 5 year old budget RTX 3060TI (+ I5 12400f + 1440p monitor) is still rocking hard.Im actually suprised how good it runs newest games,particulary Battlefield 6 and Arc Raiders and they both look great,especialla ARC looks stunning

Without DLSS i get around 60fps
With DLSS i get 100fps+ STABLE while it looks identical compared to other

This means a lot because i have 1440p 144hz monitor and there is huge difference even between 60 and 100hz.

There is absolutely no reason to upgrade right now and i'll wait until RTX 6xxx series comes.

At first, I thought, "Oh cool, I can play longer with older hardware," but as we've seen very clearly lately, developers simply rely on dlss and even framegen to make the game playable at all. See Borderlands 4 and similar disasters.

 

[memoryman3]

The 3060 Ti is still a mid range card in 2025, and still more capable than options you would find in consoles and handhelds. Tech just hasn't progressed as quickly as it should thanks to Moore's Law slowing down.

Had Nvidia opted to put 12 or 16GB of VRAM, you would be looking at a 10 year lifespan for the device.

FYI you should always lock your framerates to lower input latency. Hitting the limits of your GPU introduces extra latency. At 100FPS, maybe lock to 90, 75 or 60 frames.

 

[Xdrive05]

It's the GOAT technology ever since hitting version 2.0. And with Transformer model now, I'm always willing to go down one DLSS setting further than CNN. At least.

4060ti 16GB, btw. I can run maxed out ray tracing in Indiana Jones and get great performance at 1440p because of DLSS Transformer model and frame generation (and frankly because Indiana Jones plays well with a controller, and so I can get away with 80fps frame gen input lag).

 

[Wonko_C]

I was reluctant to upgrade from my 10+ years old 1080p TV because I knew I wouldn't be able to afford a card to fit that resolution natively. So far the 3070 Ti is still holding up like a champ by setting DLSS to Performance, and sometimes even Quality.

It's also a godsend for heavy games in VR, as I play a lot of Unreal Engine 4/5 games with UEVR like Robocop: Rogue City, Silent Hill 2, Expedition 33, Sonic Racing Crossworlds, Stellar Blade, etc. Their own internal DLSS works perfectly. Not only have I to set the VR resolution to something like 1728x1824, I also have to upscale to that resolution with DLSS Performance, so in reality those games are running at 864x912 just to maintain 72fps.

 

[Holammer]

DLSS is insane, but the new kid in town is even crazier.

Smooth Motion. Set it to on globally in your drivers. games that dont support dlss gets better performance as well. I can run anything 165 fps ultra settings on my 4070.

Even works on emulators. Playing PS2 games at 120 fps and RPCS3 games between 60 and 120 fps flawlessly

I set it on case by case basis, there are actually games where it does nothing, makes them crash or the Direct X is too old. Like older Borderlands games, but that's where you use Lossless Scaling. For games with pixel art it's better to use Lossless Scaling because of the integer/nearest neighbor scaling options.
That said, I use Smooth Motion for basically everything.

"You have not experienced BotW until you have played it in the original 120fps with 2x Smooth Motion."
~ Chancellor Gorkon

 

[PeteBull]

dlss4 aka transformative model is crazy good, hell look at 3090 and it dlssing 4k ultra performance(aka native is only 720p) in cp2077

And i can confirm in reality on big 32inch monitor screen it looks still relatively crips as 3080ti owner(same archi, half vram and about 2-3% lower performance, easily can make up for that if we oc the card)

Now compare it to old xbox one x that doesnt use any upscaling technique but runs game at 1188-1674p drs:


And that 720p native ultra performance 4k dlss4 looks more crisp, similary to 1440p native actually, even in motion xD
Simply nvidia somehow pulled out some dark magic and significantly reduced amount of dlss artifacts, including nasty ones in motion that fsr and previous dlss versions have.

 

[Luipadre]

DLSS4 and 2x framegen when base fps is more than 60 is amazing.

 

[ThatOneGrunt]

I'm having a great time with my 3070ti. Really happy that instead of buying into this console generation I just went with upgrading my PC. Games run flawlessly in my opinion.