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[Crayon]

Any info on whether SteamOS will be made publicly available for desktop use once the Gabecube hits?

This may seem like not a helpful answer for those who've been waiting for steamos, but I stand by it:

It may not have any real tangible benefits over bazzite. The most standout thing about steamos over bazzite might be that it's tested and shipped on hardware. This is going to make any Linux distro or really any os seem extra smooth and reliable. Once you install it on uncontrolled hardware, that goes away.

After that, it's the gamescope session, which bazzite brings over wonderfully. I don't think the the wait will be worth it if you want to do a consolized PC now.

 

[Hudo]

This may seem like not a helpful answer for those who've been waiting for steamos, but I stand by it:

It may not have any real tangible benefits over bazzite. The most standout thing about steamos over bazzite might be that it's tested and shipped on hardware. This is going to make any Linux distro or really any os seem extra smooth and reliable. Once you install it on uncontrolled hardware, that goes away.

After that, it's the gamescope session, which bazzite brings over wonderfully. I don't think the the wait will be worth it if you want to do a consolized PC now.

I agree. Personally, I was only asking about it because I am interested in what Valve might contribute beyond that. For example, there are rumors about them making an "Android translation layer" akin to what Proton is for DXVK. I am quite happy with CachyOS and don't plan on using SteamOS.

 

[Crayon]

I agree. Personally, I was only asking about it because I am interested in what Valve might contribute beyond that. For example, there are rumors about them making an "Android translation layer" akin to what Proton is for DXVK. I am quite happy with CachyOS and don't plan on using SteamOS.

Oh, got ya.

I'm expecting the lepton and vr improvement to hit other distros way before steamos. Who knows what else they have in mind, though.

For unanounced new features, I really really hope some kind of anticheat solution is coming soon as possible. I don't play any of the games affected, but it's a big stumbling block for a lot of potential users. I mention because that might (might... I don't know how) have something to do with their own hardware.

 

[BeardSpike]

I tried popos for a minute on a new tablet and I loved that cosmic desktop.

It seems system76 devs are watching Matts videos and are looking into issues he reports or points in his vids.

This is awesome news since more things will get picked up faster. Could be an awesome and stable DE in a while.

 

[Crayon]

It seems system76 devs are watching Matts videos and are looking into issues he reports or points in his vids.

This is awesome news since more things will get picked up faster. Could be an awesome and stable DE in a while.

I would have kept it on, but lemme tell you something about this tablet it that linux hates that shit lol. I flipped through live boots of like 6 distros that morning trying to find something that worked with all the tablet features out of the box. Turns out bazzite did lol.

 

[Durin]

Durin

Looks like the performance is near enough to KDE & Gnome, and having less issues than I remember his last test using older games like Guild Wars.

It's basically smaller issues still remaining, and proper HDR implementation...though it wouldn't surprise me if they catch up to Gnome's less mature implementation vs KDE.

 

[BeardSpike]

https://www.reddit.com/r/radeon/s/qtwSvWV3kK

Info for RDNA 3 users.

 

[Soodanim]

Had a bit of a 'mare.

Had a full system crash while playing a game and streaming on Netflix, which took me down to just a full screen terminal. Didn't think too much about trying to recover from there, so I powered off. My Linux nvme wasn't recognised as a boot drive by my bios.

So after using my original live USB and trying functions, some of which may or may not have worked, I made a new live USB with the latest Cachy download and did it all again. This is where I decided to look deeper into the bios boot menu just in case, and was reminded that the bootloader is chosen within a separate setting to the device boot priority.

See, what had happened was when Windows started it had ambushed me with an update because the last time I ran the CTT WinUtil I hadn't set deferred updates. Yes, this was the shitty AI update (I've since sorted that). But you know what Windows is like with updates and bootloader control. So at some point I had fixed whatever I needed to fix in Cachy, but it wasn't until I found an option to force booting into a specific bootloader that I realised all was fine again.

When I'm at my computer I can update with the things I did in case they help anyone some day.

tl;dr I hate Windows

 

[Durin]

Had a bit of a 'mare.

Had a full system crash while playing a game and streaming on Netflix, which took me down to just a full screen terminal. Didn't think too much about trying to recover from there, so I powered off. Now my Linux nvme isn't recognised as a boot drive by my bios.

So after using my original live USB and trying functions, some of which may or may not have worked, I made a new live USB with the latest Cachy download and did it all again. This is where I decided to check deeper into the bios boot menu just in case, and was reminded that the bootloader is chosen within a separate setting to the device boot priority.

See what had happened was when Windows started it had ambushed me with an update because the last time I ran the CTT WinUtil I hadn't deferred updates. Yes, this was the shitty AI update (I've since sorted that). But you know what Windows is like with updates and bootloader control. So at some point I had fixed whatever I needed to fix in Cachy, but it wasn't until I found an option to force booting into a specific bootloader that I realised all was fine again.

When I'm at my computer I can update with the things I did in case they help anyone some day.

tl;dr I hate Windows

Honestly, with Windows 11...better to just stall any updates, and only turn back on if the update specifically adds a feature you want.

You're always better off getting the updates late, so when you do update you get the fixes for what that older update broke.

Microsoft QA for Win 11 is just worse than 10 or 8.

 

[nemiroff]

I'm bored so I'm going to try that Pop!_OS with the Nvidia drivers.

I tried popos for a minute on a new tablet and I loved that cosmic desktop.

I was planning to dual boot Pop!_OS on my w11 pc - until i was told to turn off secure boot. Not gona mess with that since there's some dependencies.

 

[Deraj]

I'm bored so I'm going to try that Pop!_OS with the Nvidia drivers.

I was planning to dual boot Pop!_OS on my w11 pc - until i was told to turn off secure boot. Not gona mess with that since there's some dependencies.

If it's like Bazzite, you only turn off secure boot during installation to avoid issues, then after that you register the distro key and turn secure boot back on again.

 

[nemiroff]

If it's like Bazzite, you only turn off secure boot during installation to avoid issues, then after that you register the distro key and turn secure boot back on again.

I appreciate the helpfulness brotherman. But according to the information I received, Pop!_OS is incompatible with Secure Boot and will simply refuse to boot with it on even after the installation is done.

But I might simply consider using a different distro.


Edit: And yes I know about signing the bootloader and the UEFI trick. But these are flawed workarounds and not worth the effort to me.

 

[Poppinfresh]

I feel like I should update my own Linux experience using Nvidia for other people here.

I started with CachyOS, but a rolling update broke something and I couldn't get the OS to boot so instead of reinstalling Cachy, I installed Bazzite.

Bazzite just worked, until it didn't. Seriously, it was almost plug and play. No issues running any game with Nvidia at all and performance with my 5090 seemed on par with what I'd expect out of Windows.

I was able to get HDR working in every game that had HDR support using the latest ProtonGE and:

PROTON_NO_STEAMINPUT=1 PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 PROTON_ENABLE_HDR=1 ENABLE_HDR_WSI=1 %command%

The only side-effect was that my Gamesir G7 Pro wouldn't work when using that, because it bypasses Steam Input, but every other Gamepad I owned worked just fine. The issue wasn't really Linux; it was poor Linux support from Gamesir and it wasn't really a big deal.

Around New Years Eve Bazzite pushed an update that included the latest Nvidia drivers for Linux. As soon as that update was pushed, HDR broke on my system. When I say "broke" it still technically worked, but everything looked washed out - likely an issue with tone-mapping or something along those lines.

I tried every combination of start-up augments I could, including using GameScope instead of native Wayland HDR. Nothing worked, and all HDR continued to look washed out.

Eventually, I rebased to the previous version of Bazzite, which also included the older Nvidia driver, and I completely shut off Bazzite updates. This seemed to fix the problem and HDR looked great again. Unfortunately, the next day, when I started up the PC and fired up a game, HDR seemed to be broken again, and everything went back to looking washed out. Nothing seemed to have updated again overnight, so I'm really not sure what happened.

Long story short, I wasn't really willing to spend a ton of time continuing to troubleshoot an issue that happened suddenly and (to me) was clearly caused by a Bazzite or Nvidia update, so I ended up reinstalling Windows.

I'll definitely go back to Linux and Bazzite once the Nvidia driver kinks are ironed out and HDR is working as intended. Hopefully, that will be sometime this year. Until then, I'll likely stick with Windows. As much as I dislike it, gaming-related stuff just works.

 

[Wolzard]

I recently bought a 5070 Ti for my Windows PC and took the 3060 Ti that was in it and put it in my Linux machine, replacing the RX 7600.

Besides being a quieter card (the RX 7600 activated its fans very frequently), the system performance has been wonderful. The RX 7600 frequently crashed the kernel, it was irritating to see the system freeze randomly. Even worse was knowing that it's a bug that's been open for over 3 years and has never been fixed.

 

[rodrigolfp]

PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1

What this command does?

 

[Poppinfresh]

What this command does?

It tells Proton to use native Wayland instead of any other compatibility layers like XWayland.

 

[rodrigolfp]

It tells Proton to use native Wayland instead of any other compatibility layers like XWayland.

Native Wayland is the best for everything?

 

[Poppinfresh]

Native Wayland is the best for everything?

I don't know that it's the best, but it worked for me, until it didn't.

 

[Topher]

If it's like Bazzite, you only turn off secure boot during installation to avoid issues, then after that you register the distro key and turn secure boot back on again.

I appreciate the helpfulness brotherman. But according to the information I received, Pop!_OS is incompatible with Secure Boot and will simply refuse to boot with it on even after the installation is done.

But I might simply consider using a different distro.


Edit: And yes I know about signing the bootloader and the UEFI trick. But these are flawed workarounds and not worth the effort to me.

I just leave secure boot off. Is there a reason for it to be on?

 

[nemiroff]

I just leave secure boot off. Is there a reason for it to be on?

Well, as always it depends. Black Ops 7 f.ex.. I play it with friends every other night and don't want to lose access. Plus, I've been busy locking down my security by moving to passkeys. Since those, in my case at least, rely on Windows Hello and Secure Boot, I'm not about to mess with that either.

 

[Soodanim]

Honestly, with Windows 11...better to just stall any updates, and only turn back on if the update specifically adds a feature you want.

You're always better off getting the updates late, so when you do update you get the fixes for what that older update broke.

Microsoft QA for Win 11 is just worse than 10 or 8.

You're not wrong. Unfortunately when I first ran WinUtil I didn't select the defer updates option, so when I was thrown into it Windows took over as it often does. I've changed that now. I'm thinking of disabling the Windows bootloader entirely, because I'd rather boot into emergency mode Linux than Windows if I'm trying to fix an issue.

 

[MrCunningham]

I'm bored so I'm going to try that Pop!_OS with the Nvidia drivers.

I was planning to dual boot Pop!_OS on my w11 pc - until i was told to turn off secure boot. Not gona mess with that since there's some dependencies.

Honestly, when it comes to choosing a distro, I'm sure that most of the ones that people list are just fine. I don;t know what valve's SteamOS would do better overall, perhaps they have made some customization's to the performance governor? IDK. But most distro's aren't that different at their core. It comes down to personal presences of desktop environments, package managers, maybe a few core components, etc. yeah, some distros may be a little more 'fine tuned' for gaming performance. But in most cases the differences are negligible at best.

Just get a few USB sticks and test drive them through the USB drive.

I'm using Linux Mint, and have been since like 2014 or so. It has been my go-to for over a decade. In most cases, it does what I need it to do. I can play games on steam without any hassle. I use an AMD video card and the MESA drivers do work incredibly well.

Dual booting is a way to go. Personally, I like putting Linux on a separate drive and just switching to it via the HDD manager in the bios.

 

[Poppinfresh]

Honestly, when it comes to choosing a distro, I'm sure that most of the ones that people list are just fine. I don;t know what valve's SteamOS would do better overall, perhaps they have made some customization's to the performance governor? IDK. But most distro's aren't that different at their core. It comes down to personal presences of desktop environments, package managers, maybe a few core components, etc. yeah, some distros may be a little more 'fine tuned' for gaming performance. But in most cases the differences are negligible at best.

Just get a few USB sticks and test drive them through the USB drive.

I'm using Linux Mint, and have been since like 2014 or so. It has been my go-to for over a decade. In most cases, it does what I need it to do. I can play games on steam without any hassle. I use an AMD video card and the MESA drivers do work incredibly well.

Dual booting is a way to go. Personally, I like putting Linux on a separate drive and just switching to it via the HDD manager in the bios.

Every Distro is fine as long as you stick to KDE (and maybe Gnome).

It all comes down to how much "work" you want to do to get up and gaming. The gaming distros install a bunch of stuff for you automatically. Other distros you'll have to install most of the stuff yourself.

 

[Crayon]

ave made some customization's to the performance governor? IDK. But most distro's aren't that different at their core. It comes down to personal presences of desktop environments, package managers, maybe a few core components, etc. yeah, some distros may be a little m

ave made some customization's to the performance governor? IDK. But most distro's aren't that different at their core. It comes down to personal presences of desktop environments, package managers, maybe a few core components, etc. yeah, some distros may be a little m

I used to tell new people that the only thing they need to decide at first is gnome or kde. Any of the top ten on distrowatch is a fine choice. Starting out, they are really only going to be exposed to the difference in de.

But now there is one more big choice - Immutable system or not. I describe immutable as a system with guardrails and non-immutable as weapons-free . So probly start with immutable, but if you want to know the classic style of operation go elsewhere.

I personally find the new immutable paradigm pretty cool. After learning a few things, it doesn't feel limited in any serious way. At least for my usage.

 

[IFireflyl]

I have too much work-related stuff that I can't use with Linux (my job is heavily Windows/Microsoft-bound). I don't want to dual boot simply because Windows is an asshole like Soodanim found out, and it can screw up other dual-boot OSs because Microsoft is lazy and stupid.

I'm starting to wonder if maybe running something like Bazzite alone wouldn't be the best option, and then creating a Windows VM inside of that which I could use for my work stuff. Does anyone have any experience with something like this? I can't pull the trigger on something that monumental without doing my homework first. I've got 5 different drives that are all NTFS Windows-formatted drives that I would have to backup to my NAS, then wipe them, and install Bazzite (or similar OS), then create a VM, then copy over all necessary backed up data to either the Linux OS or the Windows VM (depending on if it is work related or if it can be used by/on Linux). It's not a task that I relish undertaking.

 

[Soodanim]

Since my recent issue I've been thinking about potential changes moving forward, and if I didn't have Windows I'd probably have a Bazzite setup as a fallback.

Speaking of which, how do you all feel about file systems? I'm on btrfs because it was the default and supposedly offered easy backups ICE, but my emergency wasn't quite so easy to fix so I don't know if what I have is optimal. Btrfs certainly has its detractors, and they all prefer ext4 for being a faster and less fragile system. They're just opinions, of course, but I don't know anything past the most basic of basics about any fs.

Also tempted to switch from refind Limine as it may offer a better backup solution.

All input is welcome

 

[Crayon]

I have too much work-related stuff that I can't use with Linux (my job is heavily Windows/Microsoft-bound). I don't want to dual boot simply because Windows is an asshole like Soodanim found out, and it can screw up other dual-boot OSs because Microsoft is lazy and stupid.

I'm starting to wonder if maybe running something like Bazzite alone wouldn't be the best option, and then creating a Windows VM inside of that which I could use for my work stuff. Does anyone have any experience with something like this? I can't pull the trigger on something that monumental without doing my homework first. I've got 5 different drives that are all NTFS Windows-formatted drives that I would have to backup to my NAS, then wipe them, and install Bazzite (or similar OS), then create a VM, then copy over all necessary backed up data to either the Linux OS or the Windows VM (depending on if it is work related or if it can be used by/on Linux). It's not a task that I relish undertaking.

Using virtual box is actually really easy and nice. Give it a shot. There can be mixed results on which software works but I've found anything that's not "hi performance" software was fine. My wife was trying to set something up with a buyer in china and they had this shady, but apparently very popular chat app to use. Tried once on wine with no dice. I was never good at unguided wine usage. But that's why she always had a win vm on there and it worked just fine. I think it's a better solution than dual booting for a lot of people.

 

[Durin]

I tried every combination of start-up augments I could, including using GameScope instead of native Wayland HDR. Nothing worked, and all HDR continued to look washed out.

Eventually, I rebased to the previous version of Bazzite, which also included the older Nvidia driver, and I completely shut off Bazzite updates. This seemed to fix the problem and HDR looked great again. Unfortunately, the next day, when I started up the PC and fired up a game, HDR seemed to be broken again, and everything went back to looking washed out. Nothing seemed to have updated again overnight, so I'm really not sure what happened.

I heard the last Nvidia driver had to be rolled back on Linux, based on different distro discords I'm on. Just curious, were you HDR issues on KDE with Bazzite, or something else like Gnome. Just curious because I know KDE's HDR support is further along, and I was gonna dip back into linux in the next few months on my main machine whenever I hear a new Nvidia driver starts to improve gaming performance.

Btrfs certainly has its detractors, and they all prefer ext4 for being a faster and less fragile system.

I did use Btrfs with Bazzite and then on PikaOS went with ext4. Can't say I noticed much of a difference besides not having snapshots, but it supposedly offers some slight gaming performance boost...but only a few percentage if that.

The issue wasn't really Linux; it was poor Linux support from Gamesir and it wasn't really a big deal.

My understanding based on the Gamesir discord is that it's a Valve issue. They want to implement Steam Input support, but they have no direct contact at Valve to work on that.

 

[Poppinfresh]

Just curious, were you HDR issues on KDE with Bazzite, or something else like Gnome.

KDE

 

[Durin]

KDE

Good to know, HDR was one of those things I was also waiting on to get more stable support, but seems still has some kinks to iron out.

This year going to be interesting if some of these issues get fixed or up to par with other OSs.

 

[Durin]

Saw this cool github project today: Tourbox-Linux by Scott Bowman (AndyCappDev)

One of the things that's held me back from using Linux as more of a daily driver is just how much I use this Tourbox Elite as my main macro-pad for media/games, and especially for digital art (mainly 3D).

Love this vs other macro pads because all the buttons are distinct so I can use it without looking, tons of dials with adjusted sensitivity using haptic vibration feedback, and great software to customize everything per app with auto-switching. Unfortunately that software only works on Windows, Mac, Android & ipados. Other Linux attempts I've seen only offered basic support, where you'd have to manually enter configuration files to do anything, but this one has an easy to use GUI (left image):

A little more spartan vs the official app (right image)...but I think given it's made in QT (same as KDE apps use), it could change color based on system theme maybe for a dark mode.

Unlike other Linux apps for this device, this includes: per-application profiles, automatic profile switching, double-press actions, actions on button release, supports haptic strength adjustment, bluetooth or usb support, modifier keys, and you can even import/export control profiles to share with people for applications. It even runs as a systemd user service, so it will just work at startup automatically.

All in all though, I love when the community makes something that works well enough to be a near feature-complete option, until official support eventually comes. The chad even included user guide documentation on how to work with it.

 

[Crayon]

Saw this cool github project today: Tourbox-Linux by Scott Bowman (AndyCappDev)

One of the things that's held me back from using Linux as more of a daily driver is just how much I use this Tourbox Elite as my main macro-pad for media/games, and especially for digital art (mainly 3D).

Love this vs other macro pads because all the buttons are distinct so I can use it without looking, tons of dials with adjusted sensitivity using haptic vibration feedback, and great software to customize everything per app with auto-switching. Unfortunately that software only works on Windows, Mac, Android & ipados Other Linux attempts I've seen only offered basic support, where you'd have to manually enter configuration files to do anything basic, but this one has an easy to use GUI (left image):

A little more spartan vs the official app (right image)...but I think given it's made in QT (same as KDE apps use), it could change color based on system theme maybe for a dark mode.

Unlike other Linux apps for this device, this includes: per-application profiles, automatic profile switching, double-press actions, actions on button release, supports haptic strength adjustment, bluetooth or usb support, modifier keys, and you can even import/export control profiles to share with people for applications. It even runs as a systemd user service, so it will just work at startup automatically.

All in all though, I love when the community makes something that works well enough to be a near feature-complete option, until official support eventually comes. The chad even included user guide documentation on how to work with it.

1 month gold if you can beat dark souls with that thing.

 

[MrCunningham]

But now there is one more big choice - Immutable system or not. I describe immutable as a system with guardrails and non-immutable as weapons-free . So probly start with immutable, but if you want to know the classic style of operation go elsewhere.

Linux with guardrails doesn't make any sense for me. What's the point in using the Linux kernel, if you are not going to break a few things, and 'Frankenstein' your OS out? I mean, if you are using this as purely a gaming distro, using the 'hard locked' system does probably make it more efficient when you are trying to maximize performance. To be honest, I have not looked at Baszzite or CatchyOS at all. Maybe I am missing something there?

It all comes down to how much "work" you want to do to get up and gaming. The gaming distros install a bunch of stuff for you automatically. Other distros you'll have to install most of the stuff yourself.

In most cases it's just opening up the software channel and installing Steam through the native packages, appimage, snap or flatpak. Depending on what distro you use. The Steam Linux client is pretty self deficient, as it contains the majority of its' required dependencies through the Steam Runtime. Other than that, you are mostly just downloading compatibility clients, emulators, and a few native Linux games.

 

[Masonicon]

I did gone with Bazzite(without gaming modes as default as this make Bazzite too specialized on gaming for even me) for Linux distro I use to replace Windows 10 in my PC

when I played GOG games, I got both Lutris and Heroic Games launcher as well Minigalaxy(latter is for playing native Linux games froM GOG)

 

[Topher]

I'm dual booting again for the first time since going back to Nvidia. Trying Nobaro this time instead of Cachyos which I use everywhere else. So far it's pretty good

 

[BeardSpike]

Honestly, with Windows 11...better to just stall any updates, and only turn back on if the update specifically adds a feature you want.

You're always better off getting the updates late, so when you do update you get the fixes for what that older update broke.

Microsoft QA for Win 11 is just worse than 10 or 8.

I'm actually doing just that on Win11.

I recently installed updates just because they fixed something on AMD cards, lmao.

And I turned updates off instantly after that for 5 weeks.

I debloated it once again, since apparently updates can turn things back on...

And on Linux I generally have other experience, I install updates almost daily since I have a rolling distro.

I like to keep it bleeding edge but not too bleeding edge, so I use default kernel repo I stopped playing with RC kernels.

I use default Mesa drivers as main drivers, and git ones the devel ones I compile them myself and install them to /opt folder, so I can just basically use them when I want in launch parameters in Steam or Heroic or Lurtis.

And if I don't put any variables in then games just launch with default Mesa.

Haven't have done any weird stuff besides that and I finally ditched TimeShift in favour of Snapshots and I didn't broke my distro nor has it broken by itself.

Secure boot works, dual booting with rEFInd works.

I've been busy gaming.

I installed DaVinci Resolve lately through AUR and I've been playing around with gaming footage I captured in

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I've been basically either frame blending footage from 240 fps or 120 fps to 60 fps so it appears smoother.

 

[Crayon]

Linux with guardrails doesn't make any sense for me. What's the point in using the Linux kernel, if you are not going to break a few things, and 'Frankenstein' your OS out? I mean, if you are using this as purely a gaming distro, using the 'hard locked' system does probably make it more efficient when you are trying to maximize performance. To be honest, I have not looked at Baszzite or CatchyOS at all. Maybe I am missing something there?

You can still do a lot with it. It's more like the system is set up for complete update images and is strongly steering you towards containerized apps. Trying to get you to not fuck with it.

One little example - I was on cachy for a minute there, and I started getting an update error. Some kind of divergence in an update or something. It started crying about some nvidia packages, which is odd because I don't have an nvidia card. No actual consequences, but there could be for things like that. Much less likely to happen on an immutable system than gives you a whole image instead of making changes to a standing system.

 

[Durin]

I'm actually doing just that on Win11.

I recently installed updates just because they fixed something on AMD cards, lmao.

And I turned updates off instantly after that for 5 weeks.

I debloated it once again, since apparently updates can turn things back on...

And on Linux I generally have other experience, I install updates almost daily since I have a rolling distro.

I like to keep it bleeding edge but not too bleeding edge, so I use default kernel repo I stopped playing with RC kernels.

I use default Mesa drivers as main drivers, and git ones the devel ones I compile them myself and install them to /opt folder, so I can just basically use them when I want in launch parameters in Steam or Heroic or Lurtis.

And if I don't put any variables in then games just launch with default Mesa.

Haven't have done any weird stuff besides that and I finally ditched TimeShift in favour of Snapshots and I didn't broke my distro nor has it broken by itself.

Yeah, I'm the same way with Windows vs Linux. Linux just benefits from the bleeding edge because it's still playing catch-up on features, and improvements to gaming are pretty rapid just with Mesa and Proton alone.

I can see at some point when Linux gets within 5 percent performance to Windows, most of the features like HDR just work...I might get more conservative with some updates, or for some people the bleeding edge eventually isn't needed to have a good experience gaming wise. I'm happy given how easily DLSS 4.5 already works, and the next mesa update I guess PikaOS was already mentioning they'd get multi-frame-gen support for Nvidia cards. The time gap is getting smaller, which I like.

I installed DaVinci Resolve lately through AUR and I've been playing around with gaming footage I captured in

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DaVinci Resolve is fun to mess around with, and they give you so many great tools with just the free version. At some point I'll need to pay them for better version, which gives you all the missing codecs that the Windows/Mac versions have since those OSs pay the licenses for them with your initial OS fee.

Glad to see some better screen recorders happen, but I'd like to see Steam Recordings get better too since the integration is just convenient.

Also BeardSpike Topher Crayon Soodanim Poppinfresh , didn't someone mention doing a new dedicated Linux thread starting this year? Not sure if we wanna have a separate thread for people troubleshooting stuff, and the main one be for just talking about new stuff or people's stories jumping in? Open to thoughts.

 

[Crayon]

Also BeardSpike Topher Crayon Soodanim Poppinfresh , didn't someone mention doing a new dedicated Linux thread starting this year? Not sure if we wanna have a separate thread for people troubleshooting stuff, and the main one be for just talking about new stuff or people's stories jumping in? Open to thoughts.

Good thought on the troubleshooting. I don't mind that being in the main thread. With the distinct lack of a linux customer service hotline, more experienced users assisting less experienced ones is kinda part of the game. I personally would like a thread that someone can think to themselves "I know where to ask".

 

[Durin]

Good thought on the troubleshooting. I don't mind that being in the main thread. With the distinct lack of a linux customer service hotline, more experienced users assisting less experienced ones is kinda part of the game. I personally would like a thread that someone can think to themselves "I know where to ask".

I don't mind either, but I could see it over time getting cluttered with it. I'm fine going in any direction, the Linux stuff here is just some of my favorite to respond to given my post history. This year I think a good cluster of things are gonna get solved (HDR, multi-monitor fractional scaling), nvidia driver performance should improve, Steam Machine/Controller releases, etc.

The Tourbox thing also just another thing holding me on to Windows, that now has a working option on Linux, so things just keep getting chipped away over time.

 

[Crayon]

I don't mind either, but I could see it over time getting cluttered with it. I'm fine going in any direction, the Linux stuff here is just some of my favorite to respond to given my post history. This year I think a good cluster of things are gonna get solved (HDR, multi-monitor fractional scaling), nvidia driver performance should improve, Steam Machine/Controller releases, etc.

The Tourbox thing also just another thing holding me on to Windows, that now has a working option on Linux, so things just keep getting chipped away over time.

Sometimes I tell people one of the best things about using linux is having an os that always gets better. I hear that's not strictly the case with every os these days lol.

Should definitely talk more about an ot, though. I made one for era only like 2 weeks before I cut from there. Felt bad abandoning it. As far as I know, it's still being used. Maybe I should have asked for someone else to take it over.

 

[Durin]

Sometimes I tell people one of the best things about using linux is having an os that always gets better. I hear that's not strictly the case with every os these days lol.

Should definitely talk more about an ot, though. I made one for era only like 2 weeks before I cut from there. Felt bad abandoning it. As far as I know, it's still being used. Maybe I should have asked for someone else to take it over.

Pretty much, the forward momentum on Linux is there, while with Windows I feel like I'm playing clean-up to preserve what's there from Microsoft's tentacles. Only good stuff with Windows is other hardware/software companies that aren't Microsoft making stuff.

Guarantee your Linux thread on the purple era is people whining about Microsoft's connections to Israel or AI

 

[Soodanim]

I very rarely need to boot into Windows at home now, but it's at work where the little things get me. Like the KDE keyboard shortcuts. Just the other day I was on a Teams call and needed to share a window that I had side by side with Teams, so I used shortcuts to resize the window. Except there's no dedicated maximise, so I ended up fighting with the win+arrow shortcuts until it stopped trying to be multifunctional and did what I wanted. KDE is just meta+PgUp, no squabbles.

 

[Durin]

Saw this update to PikaOS that Mattscreative covered:



Long story short, PikaOS made a GUI for their Falcon application. This essentially allows you to set various variables to make sure application use the maximum performance or not. So you can set specific games to use high performance mode, use a different power profile while they're active. You can pick which CPU scheduler you'd like to use and for what purpose, so for example you can ensure your intel CPU has its p cores focused on gaming vs any other application in the background on your machine. If you have a AMD CPU, you can set the vcache mode so it's prioritized for gaming as well. I'm assuming the other gaming distros like CachyOS will probably replicate someting similar if they haven't already.

You can also set global presets as well, and recently did find that PikaOS's dlss switcher works with Nvidia inspector so you can set globally any application to forcefully use the most recent version of DLSS like 4.5 that just came out.

 

[keefged4]

Nvidia App wouldn't open randomly earlier today, re-installing it didn't work so decided to DDU and perform a fresh install of everything, upon trying to re-install the app and the drivers my windows 11 install somehow has became corrupt.

So,

Fuck Windows, I'm now in the process of burning Bazzite to a usb stick.

I've reached my tolerance for Microsoft's pish now. I'm fed up. That's nearly every week now I have to take time out to "fix" something with windows.

No more.

I don't care about the performance reduction, I just want to play and for the OS to just work.

 

[Crayon]

Nvidia App wouldn't open randomly earlier today, re-installing it didn't work so decided to DDU and perform a fresh install of everything, upon trying to re-install the app and the drivers my windows 11 install somehow has became corrupt.

So,

Fuck Windows, I'm now in the process of burning Bazzite to a usb stick.

I've reached my tolerance for Microsoft's pish now. I'm fed up. That's nearly every week now I have to take time out to "fix" something with windows.

No more.

I don't care about the performance reduction, I just want to play and for the OS to just work.

Right on! You know where to come with questions.

 

[Soodanim]

Nvidia App wouldn't open randomly earlier today, re-installing it didn't work so decided to DDU and perform a fresh install of everything, upon trying to re-install the app and the drivers my windows 11 install somehow has became corrupt.

So,

Fuck Windows, I'm now in the process of burning Bazzite to a usb stick.

I've reached my tolerance for Microsoft's pish now. I'm fed up. That's nearly every week now I have to take time out to "fix" something with windows.

No more.

I don't care about the performance reduction, I just want to play and for the OS to just work.

I hope it goes well for you. You'll find plenty of people ready to help ITT.

I've been on Linux almost exclusively since I installed it other than for one troubleshooting issue. I don't use my computer for much outside of games, so I don't miss anything. As a daily driver it's perfectly functional and I've grown to love things it does.

The biggest hurdle for me was the file/folder structure and figuring out how Wine/Proton works, but once I realise it's just a fake Windows folder structure it made more sense and I was back to installing mods etc, essentially picking up where I left off.

 

[keefged4]

I've had a couple of steam decks since launch so I'm not completely in the dark. I've dabbled with cachy os before and have tried bazzite, so not so much in the deep end as others.

Appreciate the support though, I will ask her for sure when I inevitably need a hand.

 

[Durin]

Nvidia App wouldn't open randomly earlier today, re-installing it didn't work so decided to DDU and perform a fresh install of everything, upon trying to re-install the app and the drivers my windows 11 install somehow has became corrupt.

So,

Fuck Windows, I'm now in the process of burning Bazzite to a usb stick.

I've reached my tolerance for Microsoft's pish now. I'm fed up. That's nearly every week now I have to take time out to "fix" something with windows.

No more.

I don't care about the performance reduction, I just want to play and for the OS to just work.

I can feel you on this. I had to do the same recently with the Nvidia app yesterday, except it thankfully didn't corrupt Windows for me.

Just dealing with a windows explorer bug where large file transfers over 20gb just break the explorer, and needs to be reset otherwise I can't use it and my taskbar stops working so start menu + my pinned apps I can't click. Since I'm moving remuxed videos of my blu-ray collection to my NAS, I've been doing multiple of these transfers a day, so much fun

Never happened to me on Linux or Windows 10, Win11 QA is definitely weaker. Really just game performance on Nvidia being a bit better is my biggest reason to even have Windows on my dual-boot setup with the Linux distro PikaOS. Inevitably that performance difference will fade given the improvements in the last 2 years with Nvidia drivers on Linux though.

 

[keefged4]

I can feel you on this. I had to do the same recently with the Nvidia app yesterday, except it thankfully didn't corrupt Windows for me.

Just dealing with a windows explorer bug where large file transfers over 20gb just break the explorer, and needs to be reset otherwise I can't use it and my taskbar stops working so start menu + my pinned apps I can't click. Since I'm moving remuxed videos of my blu-ray collection to my NAS, I've been doing multiple of these transfers a day, so much fun

Never happened to me on Linux or Windows 10, Win11 QA is definitely weaker. Really just game performance on Nvidia being a bit better is my biggest reason to even have Windows on my dual-boot setup with the Linux distro PikaOS. Inevitably that performance difference will fade given the improvements in the last 2 years with Nvidia drivers on Linux though.

Yeah I've had that explorer bug too.

Just sick of it at this stage