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Monitoring the situation in Iran

Zero mention of these events by our National broadcaster in Australia too. Very strange indeed.

Hopefully the people of Iran can take their country back and create a better future for themselves.
 
ADiTAR said:
Why do you think that is? I don't get it. Only if Trump gets involved then they'll talk about it?

In Israel it's the main headline rn with the Trump quote: Kill protestors and suffer (paraphrasing it).
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My 2 cents: Israelis understand what's at stake. But in the US and Western Europe there are too many radical leftists + virtue warriors who could potentially organize student protests or make unwanted noise in other ways.

If western governments are seriously considering military intervention (and I hope they are) it's best to keep those people out of the spotlight for as long as possible so you have one less thing to worry about. And since a lot of their cries are performative, keeping them uninformed is an easy way to achieve that.

Had I not lived through the last two and a half years, I probably would not have considered this interpretation to be realistic, but we all saw the effects of social media and student protests on an active war happening across the world from them. For all I know, Trump may have decided to act in secrecy in Venezuela for this very reason.
 
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DeepEnigma said:
It's almost as if it's not tinfoil hattery that consolidated media being filtered through intelligence agencies and banking cartels is actually a real thing. Down to where they repeat the very same narrative slogans™ word for word 24/7 into the ultra's ether.
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We've been the recipient of propaganda for decades, it's just that most people don't equate the "free press" of yesteryear with what we actually have which is state media. Kill your television, indeed.
 
I wonder how many "hmmm, if we kill these couple of folks we could tip the scales...." type ops are getting considered by Israel (and the US) right now.
 
I'm really wondering what the plan is for Israeli and American forces right now. We're certainly not going to see strikes on Iranian cities. At least not in large numbers. I think that would be too risky with these protests. So what would the game plan be? Strike targets not near cities? Give the Iranian people even more spirit knowing the regime is being assaulted? That they have help?
 
ChuckeRearmed said:
I am very curious at what moment USA can actually intervene there. Ground war or the Desert Storm are not possible due to the landscape. Air bombings might lead to deaths among protesters.
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There isn't anything the US can or should do at this moment. If there's anything the US might do, it's try to intercept an airliner taking off from Tehran and heading towards Moscow

The Israelis on the other hand....I would wager they are just raring to go and they have pretty extensive recent experience in engaging in urban combat operations
 
jason10mm said:
Weren't the lines DELIBERATELY drawn to mash together otherwise antagonistic tribes in order to keep them from real progress?

None of these countries organically formed, I don't think, not that any country ever really does. At a certain point you just accept the lines on the map. But for the ME I think they were dealt an especially bad hand from their perspective.
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Not particularly. Asia minor is drenched in blood, was so long before the current borders, and will be long after they're gone.

However, map out a set of countries that gives every tribe and ethnicity access to the Mediterranean (a chance at wealth) in some form or another under a centralised government, you'll end up with Sykes-Picot.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
There isn't anything the US can or should do at this moment.
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This. It's not our "problem." We don't need to get involved.

We also have decades of failed regime changes and nation-building in the Middle East that tell us that if we do get involved, it will probably make things worse, not better.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
There isn't anything the US can or should do at this moment. If there's anything the US might do, it's try to intercept an airliner taking off from Tehran and heading towards Moscow

The Israelis on the other hand....I would wager they are just raring to go and they have pretty extensive recent experience in engaging in urban combat operations
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Air superiority maybe, stop the IRG from bombing its own people but that's assuming there is anything left of the Iranian air force after Israel had its way.

Like other have said would outside involvement help things?
 
Varteras said:
I'm really wondering what the plan is for Israeli and American forces right now. We're certainly not going to see strikes on Iranian cities. At least not in large numbers. I think that would be too risky with these protests. So what would the game plan be? Strike targets not near cities? Give the Iranian people even more spirit knowing the regime is being assaulted? That they have help?
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On the other hand this could work in the favor of the Iranian government, because this illegitimates the protests: "Look, these people are working directly for our enemies. This has nothing to do with "democracy" and "freedom". That Shiite theocracy also has its defenders among conservative, religious Iranians.

It's better for the west to keep of this and see where it goes. (But no doubt there are Israeli/US agents already directly involved in all this. These protests are exactly what they want to start a color revolution).
 
poppabk said:
The problem with all these situations is how do you transition to something better? You either have a popular uprising and some populist leader emerges as the figurehead and ultimately leader of the new regime - and we know how that tends to work out. Or you have a military backed coup with some brutal military leader who immediately turns to suppressing the populace with force.
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The previous regime the Shah of Iran where all those photos of hot Iranian women wearing short skirts was just as bad.

Iran had the chance to be a great country, they elected a prime minster who wanted to nationalise the oil. He was replaced by a brutal puppet. This directly led to evil islamic Revolution.

They killed all the leftists that sided with them too.

I don't think it can get any worse. If the protests work I genuinely feel they could get a real elected government that isn't obsessed with islam.
 
kruis said:
... It's better for the west to keep of this and see where it goes...
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International aid organisations providing food and medical attention are about the best efforts, in my eyes. The Iranian people are enraged about the state of their country, but until a clear organised opposition can step up to a podium with a clear voice, trying to meddle doesn't really help anyone. My 2 cents.
 
ZehDon said:
International aid organisations providing food and medical attention are about the best efforts, in my eyes.
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International aid organizations are all about the political agenda though

ZehDon said:
International aid organisations providing food and medical attention are about the best efforts, in my eyes. The Iranian people are enraged about the state of their country, but until a clear organised opposition can step up to a podium with a clear voice, trying to meddle doesn't really help anyone. My 2 cents.
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That's why the decision to keep the government in Venezuela was a smart one. Based on the current results in Iran - if ayatollah is gone, it will be a very different country. And the rebels in Balochistan are still silent. Army is also silent as only IRGC is fighting the protesters. If IRGC loses, it is over for the whole institution.
 
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ChuckeRearmed said:
They all are like that. We have seen that time and time again everywhere. Red Cross, UNRWA, UN etc.
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We'll have to disagree. The concept that - without exception - every single aid and humanitarian organistion on Planet Earth is politically compromised to such a degree as to warrant their automatic precludement in humanitarian issues doesn't align to our shared reality.
 
ZehDon said:
We'll have to disagree. The concept that - without exception - every single aid and humanitarian organistion on Planet Earth is politically compromised to such a degree as to warrant their automatic precludement in humanitarian issues doesn't align to our shared reality.
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Because nobody is doing anything due to altruism. Period. Not a single organization that does things "for good" without a particular benefit (that is obvious or not that obvious immediately).

Donald mac Ronald said:
The previous regime the Shah of Iran where all those photos of hot Iranian women wearing short skirts was just as bad.
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It was a very complicated situation there. But to be fair those "short skirts" and stuff, were people living the cities. The rural areas were very islamic and dogmatic. It is kinda like Erdogan's electorate in Turkey.
 
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Had a peek over in purple land and they never fail to amaze. An Iranian gets dogpiled because he dared praise Trump/Netanyahu. Regardless of your position on the Gaza war, you should be in full support of these brave protestors, regardless if you hate Trump or not!

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Senua said:
Had a peek over in purple land and they never fail to amaze. An Iranian gets dogpiled because he dared praise Trump/Netanyahu. Regardless of your position on the Gaza war, you should be in full support of these brave protestors, regardless if you hate Trump or not!

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It's certainly eye opening to see what these people have become.

Politically I feel I have no home. Everyone has gone fucking crazy.
 
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dem said:
It's certainly eye opening to see what these people have become.

Politically I feel I have no home. Everyone has gone fucking crazy.
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That means you still have independant thought, it's actually a blessing rather than a curse.
 
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