Corporal.Hicks
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I doubt the PS4 could run such detailed character models at 60 fps, let alone with RTGI and reflections. RE9 doesn't use Nanite, but the assets look incredible, and that's what matters most.
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[Digital Foundry] Resident Evil Requiem - DF Analysis - Stunning on PS5 Pro + PS5/Xbox Series X|S Breakdown
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Bojji
Gold Member
Could be. But I think devs and Sony would advertise it.
Steve Holt
Member
Bet Jez is already writing this
MisterXDTV
Member
How could it be PSSR2 if the firmware update hasn't been released yet?
The console can't support it without it.....
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Gonzito
Gold Member
They should feel slightly stupid
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Like I said, "with added potato RT". I doubt PS4 could not not run it at 30fps without RT. Stuff like TLOU2 looks much better at virtually everything vs this game.
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MazingerDUDE
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PS5
PS5 PRO (RT ON)
The difference in IQ and image stability is just staggering.
PSSR never looked this good when upscales from 1080 to 4K, and this can't possibly be a TAAU of sort.
Could this be the PSSR 2.0 we've been waiting for?
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DenchDeckard
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What, not at all. why are you gaslighting? Why would I be "Hurt" by ps5 pro performance lmao.
I will lay off now and wait for the actual PC thread. We can discuss in there. If it doesn't hurt your feelings too much. Something has obviously triggered you.
omegasc
Member
We had an official firmware update recently.
PSSR is a compute shader like every other upscaler, it can be done custom just fine without any firmware updates.
If you need a clearer analogy that already happened.
PSP had several releases on UMD that were just repackaged PS1 ISOs running with Sony emulator, at least a year before firmware update containing it actually dropped.
MisterXDTV
Member
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
PS5
PS5 PRO
The difference in IQ and image stability is just staggering.
PSSR never looked this good when upscales from 1080 to 4K, and this can't possibly be a TAAU of sort.
Could this be the PSSR 2.0 we've been waiting for?
Why RT ON is sharper?? Is this base PS5 vs PRO?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
PS5
PS5 PRO
The difference in IQ and image stability is just staggering.
PSSR never looked this good when upscales from 1080 to 4K, and this can't possibly be a TAAU of sort.
Could this be the PSSR 2.0 we've been waiting for?
Super interested to see more on this! - Hopefully DF reaches out to Capcom to see how they handled the Pro version. The IQ and RT is a big jump.
winjer
Gold Member
The game can carry the dll for it.
MisterXDTV
Member
So what's the point of the firmware update then?
omegasc
Member
It does if you want to do what they're doing. Have a new, big hit title like RE9 show off the difference, instead of current games like they did back then with PS5 Pro. Maybe this is the launch weekend or something, where titles are going to get updated, but they wanted to have a big new release game this time.
Physiognomonics
Member
Yes. We are thinking PSSR is also used on Pro vs FSR on PS5.
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omegasc
Member
No RT on base consoles this time. 1080p FSR1 apparently.
Also some "No RT" cuts you see might be from the 120hz mode on the Pro, which uses the "FSR1" upscaler.
DenchDeckard
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FSR 1.0 is diabolical, tbh.
all efforts should have been made to find anything better for the base consoles, imo;.
all efforts should have been made to find anything better for the base consoles, imo;.
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Roman Empire
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Great improvements in image quality on the PS5 Pro, Path Tracing RT is crazy though. I didn't think they would be able to get it on a console.
Still, I won't get a Pro for that. My PC is still better than it, so no real reason for me to upgrade. I think I can go with my current PC build for a few more years as it is not the right time to upgrade (not that I believe prices will go down any time soon).
Still, I won't get a Pro for that. My PC is still better than it, so no real reason for me to upgrade. I think I can go with my current PC build for a few more years as it is not the right time to upgrade (not that I believe prices will go down any time soon).
Bojji
Gold Member
They don't need FW update to do that (unless it's some sort of universal replacement toggle for PSSR1).
spookyfish
Gold Member
Same. I know nothing about this game. It stays that way.4K with 60 fps + RT it will be. Won't be watching the video.
Locked to avoid spoilers.
Leon always brings it, so my body is REGGIE.
Diego Brasil
Member
I can't watch the video... I'm at work.
What is the difference between the PS5 and the Series X?
Any advantage?
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omegasc
Member
yeah very odd choice, because checkerboarding on REngine is very good, and since RE9 on base consoles basically stick to 60fps, it does not seem like it was impossible.
clappedcheeks
Member
Some real my dad can beat up your dad energy here, of course the more expensive hardware will run it better.
cripterion
Member
If only they didn't shit the bed with DD2 and MH Wilds...
jm89
Gold Member
Why would it hurt my feelings?
More powerful hardware should beat weaker hardware, it's expected.
MisterXDTV
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Doctor Hades
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Fab news that the PS5 Pro version is making full use of the enhanced hardware. My deluxe edition PS5 steelbook copy has just arrived from Amazon this morning so I am really looking forward to playing this tonight.
Game looks amazing but I will say that the image quality in 120 Hz mode does not look great to my eyes due to the poor upscaling but I have no intention of playing the game that way anyway as 60 fps is absolutely fine with me for a game of this type. It's not a competitive shooter after all.
Would have been nice to have seen a 120 Hz / 40 fps RT+ mode on the Pro though, either locked without VRR or unlocked with VRR, as Digital Foundry mention that some scenes swith to screen space reflections instead of ray-tracing to aid performance. I think that would have been a more interesting way to use the 120 Hz mode personally.
Game looks amazing but I will say that the image quality in 120 Hz mode does not look great to my eyes due to the poor upscaling but I have no intention of playing the game that way anyway as 60 fps is absolutely fine with me for a game of this type. It's not a competitive shooter after all.
Would have been nice to have seen a 120 Hz / 40 fps RT+ mode on the Pro though, either locked without VRR or unlocked with VRR, as Digital Foundry mention that some scenes swith to screen space reflections instead of ray-tracing to aid performance. I think that would have been a more interesting way to use the 120 Hz mode personally.
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roosnam1980
Gold Member
i get you but the pro upgrades for those 2 games is still far better than the base consoles
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DenchDeckard
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Exactly, so why would you think that a pro version would hurt anyone elses feelings you silly sausage!
willothedog
Member
Of course comparisons with PC will be brought up as it's Capcoms lead platform for games now. Do you not find it interesting the compromises that they had to employ for these lower powered, some would say vastly inferior, machines?
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cripterion
Member
Hopefully they've got a good handle on their engine by now, things can only go up from now!
DanielG165
Member
Anyone who says this is fooling themselves. You can have an opinion on whether a technique is worth it or not, but when RT is effectively used, it's objectively transformative and worth its weight in gold.
Like, I purchased an RT card to take full advantage of said feature, and it's amazing that current gen consoles are also able to utilize it.
Pedro Motta
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Corporal.Hicks
Banned
Even with basic / potato RT, the lighting looks much better than raster. I noticed that dynamic objects (mainly characters) lacks indirect lighting in these DF RT vs. Raster comparisons, and RT reflections still offer vastly better results compared to SSR + cube maps, a technique used on PS4. Add to that the incredibly detailed assets (even without nanite), and it's clear that RE9 surpasses what was possible on the previous generation.
RE9 on PC is probably the best looking game at the moment.
Even UE5 wouldnt make RE9 better looking.
My old robocop (UE5) screenshots from 1440p DLAA, and especially on consoles at 720p or lower.
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J Required
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PS5 released 2020, FSR1 debuted 2021 as far as I remember.
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jm89
Gold Member
The fact that you think others can't see how hurt you are with your posts spam in this thread is what's really hilarious.
DanielG165
Member
When UE5 is utilized like crap, yes. There are a good handful of UE5 titles on console that look and run extremely well.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
I can't see PS5 assets anywhere except the RT.Even with potato RT, the lighting still look much better compared to raster. I noticed flat lighting (missing indirect lighting) on dynamic objects in these DF RT vs Raster comparison and RT reflections still offer vastly better results compares to that SSR + cube, a technigue used on PS4. Add to that incredibly detailed assets and this is clearly a PS5 game clearly surpassing what was possible on previous generation.
Even UE5 wouldnt make RE9 better looking.
My old robocop (UE5) screenshots from 1440p DLAA.
squallbr
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Topher
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This game looks fantastic, but not all games with RT are created equal. It is the same argument with PSSR. How the devs implement the technology is what is crucial. I guess if there is a lesson to be learned with something like this then it is to stop making blanket statements whether it is "RT is a waste" or "PS5 Pro is a waste" and so on.
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Lokaum D+
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dead monkey uk
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Pro looks great, time to get a second job!
Just a joke I already have a Pro