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Monitoring the situation in Iran
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DeepEnigma
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John Marston
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CNN's Kate Bolduan is the kinda chick you meet by accident in the produce section of the grocery store while you both giggle about tomatoes.
You decide to hook up and later as she's pounding you with a strap-on while Pantera is playing in the background you reconsider your life choices while silently crying.
You decide to hook up and later as she's pounding you with a strap-on while Pantera is playing in the background you reconsider your life choices while silently crying.
LordCBH
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CNN's Kate Bolduan is the kinda chick you meet by accident in the produce section of the grocery store while you both giggle about tomatoes.
You decide to hook up and later as she's pounding you with a strap-on while Pantera is playing in the background you reconsider your life choices while silently crying.
Tams
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Rentahamster
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It'd prefer the tree of liberty be tended by domestic gardeners rather than than foreign ones.
"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious"
- Oscar Wilde (but not really)
Rentahamster
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It might look wild on the outside, but I can see two objectives that sort of make sense.
1. Attack the enablers of the USA's attack, since directly striking at the the USA's forces is futile.
2. Cause general chaos in the region to make it a PR problem for the USA.
Putonahappyface
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CNN's Kate Bolduan is the kinda chick you meet by accident in the produce section of the grocery store while you both giggle about tomatoes.
You decide to hook up and later as she's pounding you with a strap-on while Pantera is playing in the background you reconsider your life choices while silently crying.
Tams
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With the Strait of Hormuz blocked and oil refineries set on fire with drones, the world economy is going to get a nasty shock. What a mess.
Everyone but idiots expected this.
This is the result of almost five decades of the world doing fuck all and allowing Iran to fester. Pursuing peace achieved nothing.
But hey, you can go back and take solice in the delusions of Francis Fukuyama if you really want to.
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Mozza
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Ukraine is a conflict that should have never started in the first place, everybody knew endlessly pushing them towards NATO membership was going to cross Russia's security red line. The U.S had been stoking the embers of that conflict for years before it all started.I wonder. I bet that during WW2 there were many Germans hoping the Nazi regime would fall and that there'd finally come an end to these bloody wars that left millions of their fathers, brothers and husbands dead on so many European battlefields. But how many of them would want to lose everything they owned to achieve that goal? Almost all currently living Germans see that ultimately they won by losing WW2, but their (great) grand parents who lived through the end of the war would have a different opinion if they'd been asked in August 1945 with their cities transformed into ruins
I hope for Iranians who want regime change that this war will be short and decisive and the number of civilian deaths will be minimal. But wars are a tricky thing, they're so easy to start and they're usually so difficult to end. Look at what happened with the Ukraine war. Putin envisioned an easy Russian victory over Ukraine but that was a horrible miscalculation. Instead it became the bloodiest European war since WW2. It's been four years and there's no end in sight.
Unknown Soldier
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kruis
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That war would never have happened if Ukraine had been a neutral buffer state between the west and Russia. It was the most logical outcome for a country that was politically, linguistically and culturally divided between pro-western Ukrainians and pro-Russian Ukrainians. Trying to drag Ukraine into the western influence sphere was a horrible mistake. (Which doesn't excuse Russia's invasion of Ukraine of course.)
LimanimaPT
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The invasion of Ukraine has nothing to do with NATO. Russia had already invaded Crimea a long time before all this. Putin just wanted more and thought that he could easely take Ukraine after what happened in Crimea. Well, he was wrong and now he can't accept defeat so thousands of people are dying in vain.
But now that Puyin has a new ally seating in the White House, this will never end.
Mozza
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There was always much more to this than the old media line... Russia evil and Ukraine good narrative. In reality this conflict started ten years before the start of hostilities.
vodka-bull
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Well if that happened, I wouldn't reconsider anything but be very proud of my lifes decisions.CNN's Kate Bolduan is the kinda chick you meet by accident in the produce section of the grocery store while you both giggle about tomatoes.
You decide to hook up and later as she's pounding you with a strap-on while Pantera is playing in the background you reconsider your life choices while silently crying.
Mozza
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All Putin wanted was Ukraine not to become a member of Nato, even after the regime change in 2014 he was not concerned unless the new leadership was pushed towards Nato membership.... And now we are where we are.
Unknown Soldier
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what is this in reference to I need context here?CNN's Kate Bolduan is the kinda chick you meet by accident in the produce section of the grocery store while you both giggle about tomatoes.
You decide to hook up and later as she's pounding you with a strap-on while Pantera is playing in the background you reconsider your life choices while silently crying.
Chittagong
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In hindsight, it was a strategic masterstroke from USA. Europe's energy dependency from Russia ended. Russia's oil and gas trade globally fucked. Russia's military occupied and degraded. European NATO scared and bullied to increase their military spending. US military industrial complex selling tons of kit to Ukraine and European NATO members. USA getting dips on Ukrainian minerals. USA getting to drive rebuild eventually.
I don't quite see the calculus in Iran succeeding to that extent, but neither did I see it with Ukraine.
LimanimaPT
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If that was the case, he would have taken a deal where he gives back the occupied territory in exchange of Ukraine not joining NATO. I'm not talking more about this topic because this is the Iran thread.
Mozza
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You sound like you are taking the media's word for it, and their very overly simplistic view of this conflict. In reality wars are never that simple. This guy gets what has gone on.
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vodka-bull
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As a sovereign country Putin can go fuck hinself if he thinks he can dictate who is and who isn't joining Nato. They already gave up their nukes for the promised sovereignty, Nato membership wasn't even part of the deal back then.
Mozza
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I think Putin wanted a deal before the conflict started, there was a lot of evidence a meeting took place between Russian diplomats and Ukrainian officials. We know it happened as both Joe Biden and Boris Johnson told Zelenskyy, pretty much the day after " Not to deal with terrorists".
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kruis
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Yep. You could indeed see the outcome of the Ukraine war as a positive for the US. But the Ukrainians themselves got royally screwed in the process. And EU citizens are also suffering the consequences, they're the ones paying for this war, keeping the corrupt Ukrainian state alive with hundreds of billions of euros while enduring de-industrialization as a result of soaring energy prices (that will only go up with this new war in the middle east).
And that's my last bit about Ukraine. This thread is about another war.
John Marston
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I'm just doing takes on various CNN anchors to bring levity to this thread
DeepEnigma
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Nearly 20% of China's oil came from Venezuela and Iran. All geopolitical chess moves.
ChuckeRearmed
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Their erratic attacks due to breakdown of command chain. They have fallen apart fast. Now they are basically randomly firing missiles. You could that even the foreign minister said that openly. Which means that even for them the situation is dire. Nobody does it like that because they are losing the stockpiles fast. I think by the end of the week they will fold. Iran is a wounded/dying animal.
On a separate note, the fact though that Spain prohibited usage of the bases and UK is not willing to allow them, validates Trump again.
I think they did not expect Russia to be so inept in Ukraine. Now situation is double hilarious as USA has been pushing EU to cut the purchases from Russia, while promoting their LNG. And now the Gulf countries are shutting down their pipelines. All while USA is a big exporter of LNG and EU has trouble delivering stuff. All while USA is evcen trying to purchase the remaining Russian nord stream plants.
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Mozza
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Pretty sure Ukraine did not even consider joining Nato until the west had suggested it. And remember when Nato was formed and it was never going to step one foot east... seems a long time ago lol..
vodka-bull
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So why is it Putins business who's joining Nato? He's not Ukraines big daddy they have to ask if they wanna have some ice cream. He thinks he is though, because little men always are a little bit delulu in their brains…
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Mozza
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You are looking at this all the wrong way. Ukraine did not need a regime change is 2014, it was done to lessen Russia's sphere of influence in the region. Not the first time the U.S had meddled in a regions affairs, usually for business interests.
Angry_Megalodon
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The idea that Russia reacts to whatever the West does is all kinds of wrong. No matter who rules the country, they have an imperialistic mindset and will always try to harm us and it's irresponsible to think otherwise. The same with the islamists. Since we can't engage in a genocidal apocalyptic war, all we can do is keeping them at bay and you do that through strength. Our weakness caused the Ukrainian debacle, nothing else. The NATO argument is bullshit spewed by Russian puppets in the West.
As important as toppling this islamist regime is to get rid of their influence in western countries. USA and Europe need a cleanse of fifht columnists in the shape of fake NGOs and islamist networks that have infiltrated every layer of our establishment.
As important as toppling this islamist regime is to get rid of their influence in western countries. USA and Europe need a cleanse of fifht columnists in the shape of fake NGOs and islamist networks that have infiltrated every layer of our establishment.
Highway Star
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Kate always gives me a chubby.CNN's Kate Bolduan is the kinda chick you meet by accident in the produce section of the grocery store while you both giggle about tomatoes.
You decide to hook up and later as she's pounding you with a strap-on while Pantera is playing in the background you reconsider your life choices while silently crying.
P:axMagellanic
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Houthis fucked about in the red sea for nearly a year didn't they? The US and RN struggled to adapt, it was exhausting for crews, pilots and logistics.
This is gonna be a ballache. Drones floating above the busiest airport hubs. Tankers and refineries getting hit. Extremist groups growing hard ons.
I wonder if trump is retarded enough to start hitting Iranian infrastructure out of frustration, then we'll be looking at state collapse.
DeepEnigma
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Add China to the list as well. And rid all corrupt traitor politicians that are in bed with them.
Bojji
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Russia is always evil, they were never "the good guys". Even when they were liberating Europe from Hitler their armies committed atrocities similar (sometimes even worse) to German soldiers. After that they swallowed the whole of Eastern Europe. Fucking liberators...
That's super naive thinking. Putin was already invading countries before this shit with Ukraine even started. Former Iron Curtain countries joined Nato because they feared that this shit will happen in the future. Russia is eternal enemy of all countries around it.
Unknown Soldier
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AJUMP23
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Meicyn
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Kuwait is awesome, they really are that friendly. Also, glad the pilot's safe and sound.
Tams
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I think Putin wanted a deal before the conflict started, there was a lot of evidence a meeting took place between Russian diplomats and Ukrainian officials. We know it happened as both Joe Biden and Boris Johnson told Zelenskyy, pretty much the day after " Not to deal with terrorists".
Stop derailing the thread.
Unknown Soldier
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France to EU: "Drop dead"
France to NATO: "You guys also"
It took a total of 48 hours from France going from condemning the war in Iran to full nuclear arsenal and learning how to do a US style "Coalition of the Willing" with any European country that wants to come along
The EU is useless and should be dissolved. I'm also not sure how this is supposed to work when NATO already exists but it's hilarious to imagine
BTW France has about ~300 nuclear warheads in their arsenal. They are quietly one of only a handful of countries with a triple digits nuke count. They also operate the world's only nuclear aircraft carrier which isn't in the US Navy
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ChuckeRearmed
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DeepEnigma
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Trogdor1123
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This is … ummm… highly specific…CNN's Kate Bolduan is the kinda chick you meet by accident in the produce section of the grocery store while you both giggle about tomatoes.
You decide to hook up and later as she's pounding you with a strap-on while Pantera is playing in the background you reconsider your life choices while silently crying.
TransTrender
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I'm still very behind in this thread but I had to follow up to this.
Remember the amount of doomposting from that one?
Biggest outcome was Iran's self own from shooting down an airliner.
winjer
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This has nothing to do with Iran and all to do with Russia.
Ever since Trump threatened to invade Greenland, that the EU started to view the USA as a unreliable ally. Something that didn't happen for over a century.
Because of this European countries are starting to consider that if Russia attacks, that the USA will no longer cover Europe with it's nuclear umbrella.
So for several months, it was speculated that France and the UK would expand their nuclear umbrella to include the rest of Europe.
In a lot of ways, this is to avoid having more countries developing their own nuclear program. A good example of this would be Poland, which is right next to Byelorussia and a prime target for invasion by Russia, once again.
Avoiding nuclear proliferation is an important point to avoid a nuclear war, as it reduces the amount of fail points.
This is something that the USA did for more than half a century, to good success, by offering it's nuclear protection to it's allied countries.
With the USA now being viewed as an unreliable partner by most countries, you can be sure that there are more nations considering getting their on nukes.
Some more examples include Japan and South Korea. Which are right next to 2 aggressive countries with nukes, North Korea and China.
Ukraine is also very likely considering starting a nuclear program to get some insurance against the next Russian invasion.
Ukraine, Poland, Finland are able to get assurances from a nuclear umbrella from France and the UK. But Japan and South Korea do not have a nearby ally with nukes, that could do the same assurance.
Even a country like Germany, could start considering restating it's own nuclear weapons program.
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