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[demigod]

Almost 2 EUR for Diesel here. Fucking insane... went from 1,50 to 2 in like 5 days. Oil mafia at it again.

Diesel went up a dollar here in TX, fml.

 

[Hot5pur]

There is a lot of "winning" being advertised on the news in the US, however they won't tell us what the winning conditions are. Or quite frankly, what even the original goal was.

US will do a lot of damage because it has big bombs and massively expensive equipment to throw at this problem. But what good is all that without concrete objectives? Trump, buttered up by Bibi, went in thinking it would be over quick. While Israel was taking out the Ayatollah, his washed up fox news lackey Kegseth was busy bombing 150+ Iranian schoolgirls. If it's not a "politically correct" war Pete, why are you only targeting girls???

Meanwhile Iranians have been pummeling US bases and now have a new leader MORE likely to support nuclear weapons development. Also gas prices will go up, Arab nations will see the the US is useless at defending them when they run out of missiles, China and Russia and going to have some fun with this, a bunch more Americans will die, and all Iran really has to do to win is survive. Without regime change (ground invasion), US is going to accomplish next to nothing, and a ground invasion would be a whole new can of worms. But hey, when you're mentioned thousands of times in files related to pedophelia and human trafficking, a war can be a good distraction. Though I don't know if killing little girls makes one look better or worse than fucking them.

 

[EviLore]

Massacre tens of thousands of your own people: silence.

Get killed in return: UN reminds you that killing anyone ever is bad

 

[vodka-bull]

Massacre tens of thousands of your own people: silence.

Get killed in return: UN reminds you that killing anyone ever is bad

UN representatives are 55% dictator countries and 45% democracies. The idea of the UN was good back in the days, nowadays it's just a bunch of hateful, anti-semitic clowns.

 

[Forsete]

Reinforcements incoming..

 

[IbizaPocholo]

 

[near]

There is a lot of "winning" being advertised on the news in the US, however they won't tell us what the winning conditions are. Or quite frankly, what even the original goal was.

US will do a lot of damage because it has big bombs and massively expensive equipment to throw at this problem. But what good is all that without concrete objectives? Trump, buttered up by Bibi, went in thinking it would be over quick. While Israel was taking out the Ayatollah, his washed up fox news lackey Kegseth was busy bombing 150+ Iranian schoolgirls. If it's not a "politically correct" war Pete, why are you only targeting girls???

Meanwhile Iranians have been pummeling US bases and now have a new leader MORE likely to support nuclear weapons development. Also gas prices will go up, Arab nations will see the the US is useless at defending them when they run out of missiles, China and Russia and going to have some fun with this, a bunch more Americans will die, and all Iran really has to do to win is survive. Without regime change (ground invasion), US is going to accomplish next to nothing, and a ground invasion would be a whole new can of worms. But hey, when you're mentioned thousands of times in files related to pedophelia and human trafficking, a war can be a good distraction. Though I don't know if killing little girls makes one look better or worse than fucking them.

Iran is a major security threat, to put it nicely. Not just the US, but several countries in the region. It was only a month or two ago that this same regime was violently killing protestors and imposing a nationwide internet blackout. They've been arming and funding a network of proxy groups, which have openly targeted US bases on many occasions. And this is a country that is working towards nuclear weapons.

It isn't particularly complicated. The war is about limiting Iran's power in the region and preventing it from becoming a nuclear armed state.

I think it's fair to debate whether this approach will work out or if it will make things worse. But pretending as if there was never any rational for this war in the first place is silly.

 

[Chittagong]

I think it's fair to debate whether this approach will work out or if it will make things worse. But pretending as if there was never any rational for this war in the first place is silly.

Messing with China and Russia is an even bigger rationale, nevermind the regional stability. And this messes with both.

 

[ADiTAR]

Trump said it will take 4 weeks. The issue obviously is that in tiktok world thats too long, and people cant wait. They need their dopamine now.

I am glad that every new page we have another tucker-told-me stooge.

 

[near]

Messing with China and Russia is an even bigger rationale, nevermind the regional stability. And this messes with both.

Maybe, but the risks aren't the same. Direct conflict with either China or Russia is on a completely different scale/level. They're both nuclear powers with huge military capabilities, and a direct war with them would escalate into something unimaginable. The rational way to deal with them is through sanctions and other economic pressures. And just because they're political and strategic allies with Iran does not mean they'll enter a war for them. They'll just backseat.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

Reinforcements incoming..

Doubt that will make ships safe.

 

[Romulus]

There is a lot of "winning" being advertised on the news in the US, however they won't tell us what the winning conditions are. Or quite frankly, what even the original goal was.

US will do a lot of damage because it has big bombs and massively expensive equipment to throw at this problem. But what good is all that without concrete objectives? Trump, buttered up by Bibi, went in thinking it would be over quick. While Israel was taking out the Ayatollah, his washed up fox news lackey Kegseth was busy bombing 150+ Iranian schoolgirls. If it's not a "politically correct" war Pete, why are you only targeting girls???

Meanwhile Iranians have been pummeling US bases and now have a new leader MORE likely to support nuclear weapons development. Also gas prices will go up, Arab nations will see the the US is useless at defending them when they run out of missiles, China and Russia and going to have some fun with this, a bunch more Americans will die, and all Iran really has to do to win is survive. Without regime change (ground invasion), US is going to accomplish next to nothing, and a ground invasion would be a whole new can of worms. But hey, when you're mentioned thousands of times in files related to pedophelia and human trafficking, a war can be a good distraction. Though I don't know if killing little girls makes one look better or worse than fucking them.

Lmao "pummeling" US bases. Then what do you call taking out an entire air force, navy, and all those hyped up AA rockets that were supposed to shoot down US jets?

 

[TheAtomicPile]

There is a lot of "winning" being advertised on the news in the US, however they won't tell us what the winning conditions are. Or quite frankly, what even the original goal was.

US will do a lot of damage because it has big bombs and massively expensive equipment to throw at this problem. But what good is all that without concrete objectives? Trump, buttered up by Bibi, went in thinking it would be over quick. While Israel was taking out the Ayatollah, his washed up fox news lackey Kegseth was busy bombing 150+ Iranian schoolgirls. If it's not a "politically correct" war Pete, why are you only targeting girls???

Meanwhile Iranians have been pummeling US bases and now have a new leader MORE likely to support nuclear weapons development. Also gas prices will go up, Arab nations will see the the US is useless at defending them when they run out of missiles, China and Russia and going to have some fun with this, a bunch more Americans will die, and all Iran really has to do to win is survive. Without regime change (ground invasion), US is going to accomplish next to nothing, and a ground invasion would be a whole new can of worms. But hey, when you're mentioned thousands of times in files related to pedophelia and human trafficking, a war can be a good distraction. Though I don't know if killing little girls makes one look better or worse than fucking them.

For what it's worth, the Pentagon is saying the goals are:

- Destroy Iranian offensive missiles
- Destroy Iranian missile production
- Destroy Iran's Navy and other security infrastructure
- Prevent Iran from having a nuclear weapon

There has obviously been significant progress on these in the past week. On the other hand, we just "prevented" Iran from having a nuclear weapon like 8 months ago and yet here we are. We're also already getting mixed signals about the timeline.

 

[demigod]

There is a lot of "winning" being advertised on the news in the US, however they won't tell us what the winning conditions are. Or quite frankly, what even the original goal was.

US will do a lot of damage because it has big bombs and massively expensive equipment to throw at this problem. But what good is all that without concrete objectives? Trump, buttered up by Bibi, went in thinking it would be over quick. While Israel was taking out the Ayatollah, his washed up fox news lackey Kegseth was busy bombing 150+ Iranian schoolgirls. If it's not a "politically correct" war Pete, why are you only targeting girls???

Meanwhile Iranians have been pummeling US bases and now have a new leader MORE likely to support nuclear weapons development. Also gas prices will go up, Arab nations will see the the US is useless at defending them when they run out of missiles, China and Russia and going to have some fun with this, a bunch more Americans will die, and all Iran really has to do to win is survive. Without regime change (ground invasion), US is going to accomplish next to nothing, and a ground invasion would be a whole new can of worms. But hey, when you're mentioned thousands of times in files related to pedophelia and human trafficking, a war can be a good distraction. Though I don't know if killing little girls makes one look better or worse than fucking them.

Low IQ forealz

 

[rorepmE]

Debatable. Considering US/UK intelligence removed the legitimate ruler in 1953 to install a puppet regime. For OIL.

Mosaddegh was never the ruler of Iran nor "democratically elected", contrary to the tankie revisionist history.

The Imperial State of Iran was a constitutional monarchy with the Shah as the Head of State with executive power to appoint and dismiss the Prime Minister, dissolve the Parliament and command the armed forces.

Supplementary Fundamental Law of 1907 (part of the 1906 Constitution) https://fis-iran.org/document/iran-1906-constitution/

Art. 46. The appointment and dismissal of Ministers is effected by virtue of the Royal Decree of the King.​

​

Art. 48. The choice of officials as heads of the various government departments, whether internal or foreign,
subject to the approval of the responsible Minister, is the King's right, save in such cases as are specifically excepted by the Law;
but the appointment of other officials does not lie with the King, save in such cases as are explicitly provided for by the Law.​

​

Art. 50. The supreme command of all the forces, military and naval, is vested in the person of the King.​

The Iranian Screw Job:

Mosaddegh's Appointment: What amounted to a vote of confidence by the Iranian Parliament, Mosaddegh is appointed as Prime Minister by the Shah

Nationalization & Popularity: Mosaddegh became immensely popular for leading the movement to nationalize the AIOC 1951, taking control away from the British.

The July 1952 Crisis: Following a brief resignation due to the Shah's refusal to grant him power to appoint a Minister of War. An uprising by his National Front coalition and the crucial support of Ayatollah Kashani forced the Shah to re-appoint him and grant him control over the military.

Power Struggle & Emergency Powers: During his second term, Mosaddegh was granted emergency powers, allowing him to bypass Parliament to push through reforms and sought to actively reduce the power of the Shah.

Alliances and Rifts: As the situation deteriorated, Mosaddegh was forced to ally with the communist Tudeh Party to maintain control of the streets, causing his former ally, Ayatollah Kashani, to fear that he would marginalize Islamic influence with secular Marxism.

The Illegal Referendum: In August 1953, facing a rebellious Parliament, Mosaddegh held a referendum to dissolve the 17th Parliament. It passed with over 99% support, but was considered illegal because, under the constitution, only the Shah had the power to dissolve Parliament.

Dismissal and Screw Job: The Shah dismissed Mosaddegh on August 16, 1953, but Mosaddegh refused to resign, calling it a foreign-backed plot. This refusal gave the Pro-Shah faction (backed by the CIA and MI6) in a plot known as Operation Ajax the justification to move against him, leading to his ouster on August 19, 1953.



TL;DR Version:

The CIA didn't screw Mosaddegh

 

[JimmyRustler]

Oh I'm sorry, are you a communist? Why are you against the great capitalism play? Don't like it? Go make your own fuel!

I'm all for capitalism but the entire oil industry is a joke. Can't wait for it to get obsolete.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

 

[Cyberpunkd]

These "disputed territories" you refer to are territorial losses that Egypt, Jordan, and Syria incurred after teamed up to jointly attack Israel in 1967.

Yes, but these territories are what Israel has taken, and they were never accepted by for example UN. They were not part of Israel before the war. It's pointless to argue whether it was justified or not (I think it was because first - aggressor should be punished ; second - good to have some spare territory in case of a future attack so they are not in Jerusalem after 30 minutes tank drive), but the fact is it made a messy situation even messier.

 

[jason10mm]

Yes, but these territories are what Israel has taken, and they were never accepted by for example UN. They were not part of Israel before the war. It's pointless to argue whether it was justified or not (I think it was because first - aggressor should be punished ; second - good to have some spare territory in case of a future attack so they are not in Jerusalem after 30 minutes tank drive), but the fact is it made a messy situation even messier.

I hate to break it to you but the UN has fuck all to do with "approving" territory seizures. Those countries fought Israel, they got their asses handed to them, and they lack the ability to take the land back. It's really as simple as that, has been since the dawn of time.

 

[kittoo]

What a joke. It's the main reason why I will drive my current car to its death and then go electric. Fucking mafia bleeding people dry.

I went electric in June 2025. Its a very relaxing feeling to not give a shit about gas prices. In our country there is another issue of government forcing ethanol mixing in gas which causes it's own issues. I don't have to care about none of that.

The car is pretty awesome too. 650km range is perfectly fine by me. I dont think I am ever going back to ICE vechiles.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I hate to break it to you but the UN has fuck all to do with "approving" territory seizures. Those countries fought Israel, they got their asses handed to them, and they lack the ability to take the land back. It's really as simple as that, has been since the dawn of time.

True, but after 1945 we kinda abandoned "might makes right" because last time we tried it two world wars happened.

 

[falconhoof]

I hope counter terrorism teams are working overtime. Feels like when, not if, that something will happen in the west.

Protesters in support of the Iranian regime and its late Supreme Leader torched an Israeli flag and chanted 'death to the IDF' at a vigil in Birmingham last night.

Dozens of activists assembled in the city to condemn the US-Israeli strikes on the country and mourn the passing of former ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Video footage showed the small crowd chanting 'death to the IDF' and 'bomb Tel Aviv', as well as burning the Israeli flag and holding pictures of Khamenei.

West Midlands Police told the Daily Mail it has launched an investigation into possible racially/religiously aggravated public order offences.

The vigil at the Imam Reza Cultural Centre saw attendees hold signs in support of the regime and wave Iranian flags.

It was attended by convicted terrorist Shahid Butt, 60, who is standing in the May local elections in the Sparkhill area of the city.

Butt was convicted of terrorism in Yemen in 1999 after plotting bomb attacks on Western targets including the British consulate in Aden, an Anglican church, and a Swiss-owned hotel. He was jailed for five years.

Pro-Iran protesters torch Israeli flag at Birmingham vigil

Protesters in support of the Iranian regime and its late Supreme Leader torched an Israeli flag and chanted 'death to the IDF' at a vigil in Birmingham last night.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[BlackTron]

True, but after 1945 we kinda abandoned "might makes right" because last time we tried it two world wars happened.

Right, and after WW2 the aggressors, who lost, had their country split up. Between the countries that had might.

FAFO is still a thing

 

[Critical Hit]

Iranians will never capitulate

Iranians or IGRC?

this unnecessary war that could escalate to World War 3, completely wiping out human civilization

lmao

Netanyahu having dirt on people associated with the Epstein Mossad op? Nah, no way!

Netanyahu was waiting for Trump's second term, which could easily not have happened, to start a war with Iran? Brilliant.

 

[Signalis]

Alright, prices here from what I can find.

20,99 Swedish ducats (€1,97 +0,099)
16,74 for 95 (€1,57 +0,033)

95 was 15,74 (€1,48) when I filled up 2 days ago.

I drove a diesel before, but the prices were outrageous before I traded it in.. at one point I paid $2,55 per liter! It was crazy times when we had a green government.. I don't miss them at all.

Ducats? You living in the fucking middle ages? Isn't it Swedish Krona?

 

[rkofan87]

It's over.

wtf they do not have blue ray players lmao

 

[rorepmE]

To all those complaining about the price of oil, how the Iranian authoritarians are behaving now is exactly why they needed to be dealt with sooner rather than later.

That you support letting Iran fester for 47 years and want it to fester more says it all.

Yup. If not now, then when? A colonoscopy prep isn't pleasant either. This shit has been going on for 47 years and the second they get the bomb, it will be too late.

People think it's for first strike capability but it's a threshold tool. It's kind of hard for these people to imagine the geopolitical ramification of this but I'll basically shield them from any sort of military response. That means they'll be able to leverage that by threatening the Strait of Hormuz everytime they want something, just like Kim Jong Un but with a major strategic chokepoint. It would radically alter the balance of power in the region permanently that will have devastating consequences for the region and global energy supply.

How does that affect us in the US? Well our Asian allies, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, etc get their oil from this region.

Let's say China decides to invade Taiwan. We sanction China or blockade the Strait of Malacca. Now Iran can help China with a blockade of Hormuz. Just one scenario.

Besides how else is Trump going to build a golf course there by 2035?

True, but after 1945 we kinda abandoned "might makes right" because last time we tried it two world wars happened.

Might always makes right in the end. What started two world wars is the miscalculation of power and the attempts at arms limitation to make everyone "equal". Well if I had ambition and I think I can beat the crap out of you decisively, there is a likelihood I might try to beat your ass.

The problem with international order is we have regional powers actively trying to undermine it. Or you have countries like China that act like a SovCit where they talk out of their ass about international law when it suits them but ignore it when it benefits them and then retaliate with economic warfare when someone just questions if the COVID-19 really came from a wet market.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Interesting message just in from the Iranian president regarding attacks on neighbouring countries.

Perhaps the beginning of things cooling off.

 

[IbizaPocholo]

 

[Tams]

Messing with China and Russia is an even bigger rationale, nevermind the regional stability. And this messes with both.

The Russian bear is flailing around being stung by bees after trying to steal all the honey and China's tiger is made of paper with their leader jealous that he is getting none of the honey.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Interesting message just in from the Iranian president regarding attacks on neighbouring countries.

Perhaps the beginning of things cooling off.

Well i guess they are running low on ammo now.

 

[winjer]

Massacre tens of thousands of your own people: silence.

Get killed in return: UN reminds you that killing anyone ever is bad

This used to be a joke, now it's a fact.

 

[MisterFalcon]

I can imagine the Iranians dispersed their stocks of drones and missiles as much as possible but now things are not really well coordinated you have every crew sitting on a missile in a shed somewhere who want to fire the damned thing as soon as possible.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

---

I have got update from inside Iran for those who are genuinely worried.

Mainstream media is spreading nonsense to exploit your worry and save the regime.

My mom called this morning, she had to call cause internet's cut again (it is a war crime). Explosions are louder than the 12-day war, but everyone is calm: strikes are precise, mostly away from homes. For nearby targets (mosques, IRGC/Basij bases in neighborhoods), people get phone warnings to evacuate first,consistent with 12 day war.

Even near Persian new year holidays, families are staying home as President @realDonaldTrump and Prince @PahlaviReza advised, avoiding schools and public spots because the regime uses them as human shields.

That's why we in exile thank @POTUS and @netanyahu: they go to great lengths to protect civilians while the regime deliberately hits crowded areas to cause maximum casualties, not just in Israel, but also in Saudi Arabia, Dubai, and Qatar.

Our only real worries: the regime itself, their faulty Chinese missiles, and their constant use of human shields.

Remember 2020: after striking the US base in Iraq, they shot down a civilian Iranian plane full of families and kids, hoping Trump would hit back so they could play victim (a Russian-style tactic). They miscalculated, Trump didn't retaliate and we painfully saw what this regime is truly capable of.

Stay calm. No one wants war, but this cancer leaves no other option but surgery.

Be patient, stay hopeful, and pray for American & Israeli heroes and for Iranians to come through safely.

And please share this video with your friends. You shouldn't trust MSM on this topic. My instagram id is @iranidaturan

---

I know the thread has moved on, but this clangs the propaganda bell and tinkles the "...is it AI?" Chimes for me.

I'm not sure that it's all that believable that nobody in Iran is worried about being hit by a bomb because they're all precision strikes and so people are just sitting at home cheering Trump and Netanyahu waiting for it to all blow over. The video suggests you ignore mainstream media and to trust them instead. That must surely hit the "that's what grifters say" gong.

In the replies to that tweet is this, which shows damage to non-military targets.




Uh oh. That's RT though.

On the ground in Tehran: Death and destruction inflicted by US-Israeli strikes (VIDEO)

RT’s Tehran bureau chief Hami Hamedi has filmed the destruction in the Iranian capital

www.rt.com

Who to believe? The lady who you've never heard of or the Russian state media?

I've been talking to friends this week and saying that because AI is so good now, verified sources and trusted broadcasters are all you can pay attention to now. Citizen reporting is sadly now possibly over because it's unverifiable and there's no reason to think that faking it won't be part of wartime propaganda.

I think everyone needs to take a look at who can be trusted, and even assess what your own prejudices are doing to your assessment of those sources. Bummer.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

What's interesting about this is the cooling off talks is coming from the President, Pezeskhian (pardon the spelling).

According to the first guy in this vid, who appears to know his stuff on the matter and the US goals, they are probably trying to create the conditions for the residing President to gain full control of the country.

His argument is that he's supported by millions of Iranian's inside Tehran who would defend him against the IRGC. Plus he has legitmacy by being an elected official.

It's well worth a listen.

 

[Critical Hit]

What's interesting about this is the cooling off talks is coming from the President, Pezeskhian (pardon the spelling).

It's not cooling off talks, it's an attempt to drive American logistics out of neighboring countries.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

It's not cooling off talks, it's an attempt to drive American logistics out of neighboring countries.

Yes definitely the main goal, but also may well be internal positioning to rally support to fill the power vacuum that is opening as IRGC personnel and infastructure gets destroyed.

Give that vid a listen and take on the current president. Israel and the US don't seem eager to kill him and he may well be off limits.

 

[IbizaPocholo]

 

[popeutlal]

He should really clarify which Iranians.

 

[winjer]

These US weapons are impressive stuff.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

Yup. If not now, then when? A colonoscopy prep isn't pleasant either. This shit has been going on for 47 years and the second they get the bomb, it will be too late.

People think it's for first strike capability but it's a threshold tool. It's kind of hard for these people to imagine the geopolitical ramification of this but I'll basically shield them from any sort of military response. That means they'll be able to leverage that by threatening the Strait of Hormuz everytime they want something, just like Kim Jong Un but with a major strategic chokepoint. It would radically alter the balance of power in the region permanently that will have devastating consequences for the region and global energy supply.

How does that affect us in the US? Well our Asian allies, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, etc get their oil from this region.

Let's say China decides to invade Taiwan. We sanction China or blockade the Strait of Malacca. Now Iran can help China with a blockade of Hormuz. Just one scenario.

Besides how else is Trump going to build a golf course there by 2035?



Might always makes right in the end. What started two world wars is the miscalculation of power and the attempts at arms limitation to make everyone "equal". Well if I had ambition and I think I can beat the crap out of you decisively, there is a likelihood I might try to beat your ass.

The problem with international order is we have regional powers actively trying to undermine it. Or you have countries like China that act like a SovCit where they talk out of their ass about international law when it suits them but ignore it when it benefits them and then retaliate with economic warfare when someone just questions if the COVID-19 really came from a wet market.

Their massive fishing fleet that destroys marine life and basically renders eating from the same waters almost useless. They overfish the world's oceans and bully their neighbors.
Rumored to have military tech and soldiers on their boats. So, the fleet is military in disguise. Attacking it could bring War. How convenient.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

I guess the chapter of Iran will close this weekend. The cleanup will remain though.

 

[Windom Earle]

This refusal gave the Pro-Shah faction (backed by the CIA and MI6) in a plot

Ok so you agree with me, good to know. Foreign intelligence fucked up Iran.

 

[Svalr93]

There is a lot of "winning" being advertised on the news in the US, however they won't tell us what the winning conditions are. Or quite frankly, what even the original goal was.

US will do a lot of damage because it has big bombs and massively expensive equipment to throw at this problem. But what good is all that without concrete objectives? Trump, buttered up by Bibi, went in thinking it would be over quick. While Israel was taking out the Ayatollah, his washed up fox news lackey Kegseth was busy bombing 150+ Iranian schoolgirls. If it's not a "politically correct" war Pete, why are you only targeting girls???

Meanwhile Iranians have been pummeling US bases and now have a new leader MORE likely to support nuclear weapons development. Also gas prices will go up, Arab nations will see the the US is useless at defending them when they run out of missiles, China and Russia and going to have some fun with this, a bunch more Americans will die, and all Iran really has to do to win is survive. Without regime change (ground invasion), US is going to accomplish next to nothing, and a ground invasion would be a whole new can of worms. But hey, when you're mentioned thousands of times in files related to pedophelia and human trafficking, a war can be a good distraction. Though I don't know if killing little girls makes one look better or worse than fucking them.

Russia is now sharing intelligence with Iran too, meanwhile Trump is easing sanctions on Russian oil...
Same guy remember who lectured Europeans about it, but made Hungary exempt from it and allowed them to keep buying it and *LITERALLY* rolled out the red carpet for Putin.

He should really clarify which Iranians.

He doesn't know himself, because he's a dumb former Fox News host who's more worried about how his hair looks on camera than human lives.
The same news station btw who credited the US with Ukrainian interceptors, '' credible news station '' btw /s.

Also he's too busy getting war criminals pardoned https://time.com/7176342/pete-hegseth-donald-trump-pardon-war-crimes-military/

 

[Tomorrow]

uk sending aircraft carrier.

maybe. eventually.

 

[IbizaPocholo]

 

[Svalr93]

Iran taking shelter with its ships in India, the same week Trump announced he's exempting India from the Russian oil sanctions lmfao, add another to the list.
Somehow I don't think that'll protect them tho.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Does this seem unseemly from The White House to anyone else? I know it's a war, but I presume those ships are crewed by men, whose deaths are being soundtracked by AC/DC and interspersed with sports footage like it's a fun game.

If it was a close up of a soldier having their face blown off by a sniper scored by "Oops I did it again" and interspersed with footage of the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleading Squad would that feel ok?*

There's obviously an abstraction when you talk about a warship being destroyed that means you don't put forward the human cost and think about the servicemen aboard. It would surely feel different if you could see their faces, but there'll still be families out there who will be able to see footage of their child being killed from a distance.

I think years of war movies has perhaps conditioned my brain into thinking about the human cost on more than one side of a conflict. Again, I get that these are countries at war, but I still think the tone of the whole thing feels jarring.


*I await this line being quoted and replied to with an image of the Burnt Peanut saying "Hell Yeah!" That exact thing, and that picking up lots of lols.

 

[AJUMP23]

Trump says Iran is done.