falconhoof
Member
You might as well just say "filter the reviews by positive to see what I want to see"
Who's going to play a game for more than 10 hours if they don't enjoy it?
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Marathon - Reviews Thread
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You might as well just say "filter the reviews by positive to see what I want to see"
Who's going to play a game for more than 10 hours if they don't enjoy it?
diffusionx
Gold Member
2 hours is also the cutoff for Steam refunds, so people bought the game, played it for 2 hours, decided they didnt like it, wrote a review, and refunded.
It's totally legitimate.
Ogbert
Member
I'm actually not, at all.You are certainly hoping for that outcome.
I love Bungie. Brilliant developer and responsible for my favourite games.
My hope is that they move away from pure pvp extraction and find a way to make it pve. Would buy it immediately.
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
Another AI reviewer? What exactly is it firmly carving here, lol.
StreetsofBeige
Member
The beta would had weeded out lots of gamers. And since this is a paid game, what you got left are people who liked the beta and will commit $40.
yurinka
Member
Yes, I prefer to filter reviews to to see what I want: the opinion of those from players who cared to play the game enough to have a decent opinion of it, independently if positive or negative.
I'm not interested on the opinion of those who bought it, gave a negative review and refunded the game before having completed the tutorial, or those who still haven't seen half of what the base of the game offers.
Particularly in a live service game, where one of the most important things is the long term progression, unlocks, in-game economy, post launch support and so on, things that can't be analyzed in a handful hours.
They could easily do it by implementing an option to choose if the enemy runner teams are controlled by other players or by CPU.
They could reuse these bots in the future once the playerbase gets too small and need to fill some slot in the matchmaking with a player of a certain level or ping. Or even to let the game live permanently once servers will get shut down.
Because other than this, particularly in the solo mode, already feels like a SP campaign with the current story, tons of small lore texts, many different missions and many progression unlock trees and XP types to progress.
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Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
Nah, in this case it's pretty much worthless. This is pretty much a review bomb. Just look at these 2 reviews.
Yeah, Steam reviews are definitely legitimate for that reason. Hell, filter by "more than 1 hours", and look at those reviews. That's still fair. The only way it could be more fair would be if they shared user HW specs, or if they could dress it up to say "System meets minimum requirement for this game" or "System meets reccommended requirement for this game". Especially if your review calls out performance issues.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Probably. I know that's my problem with Marathon, I'm just not sweaty enough for a game like that, it ain't for me. I'm sure I'm not alone in that sentiment.
Karma_Games
Member
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LyricalShrike
Member
Journos don't want to be blacklisted by Sony for breaking rank. Games journalists would die without preferential access.
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L*][*N*K
Member
Yeah how is this not the front page of every so called webiste how haven't these "journalists" made this more public than it actually is?
LyricalShrike
Member
Mainstream journalists don't care about trade press and major gaming outlets aren't going to make a big deal about it because it could hurt them. Games journalism is dead because it's little more than marketing for large publishers.Yeah how is this not the front page of every so called webiste how haven't these "journalists" made this more public than it actually is?
Bernardougf
Member
Not only this.. all the controversial attention it got for more than a year, the delays, the alpha, the beta, the server slam .... the game was scrutinized and tested to death before launch for many reasons, so we can assume the vast majority of people that bought it already really liked the game, leaving a few to buy on steam and test for 2 hours, so 80% positive reviews probably aligns perfectly with 80% of people that already really liked the game previously and bought it/reviewed it.
I read it that the CCU for previous tests are close to the current ccu ? I might be mistaken since i didnt follow before... anyway it seems a safe bet for me that this particular game already had a pre-defined audience and the steam reviews are a mirror of this.
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MMaRsu
Member
Nohody would.blacklist them
L*][*N*K
Member
I love the fanboy laughing emoji, it is so sad.Nohody would.blacklist them
MMaRsu
Member
?? Im not a fanboy
I just dont think Sony would actually blacklist any publication for just publishing a review in progress of Marathon
L*][*N*K
Member
The game has been out for 7 days, it is a 3 map game you really believe it is "Review in Progress"???
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CentralScrutinizer
Member
Good to see mainstream outlets bent the knee to Sony and are holding off on reviews as Bungie requested. Embarrassing.
I mean, it's already a known thing that Sony uses the games media and threatens to cut them off if they don't toe the line, but this is pretty blatant.
I mean, it's already a known thing that Sony uses the games media and threatens to cut them off if they don't toe the line, but this is pretty blatant.
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MMaRsu
Member
The game has been out for 7 days, it is a 3 map game you really believe it is "Review in Progress"???
They should review what is available and what consumers can purchase.
If outlets want to make it a review in progress because of a new map coming, they can state that.
In my opinion they shouldnt wait to do reviews. The game is out, people can buy it. Reviews are neccesary.
Aressa
You can't die before your death
LyricalShrike
Member
Nohody would.blacklist them
Nah they would just buy fewer ads and give less access to pre-release stuff which is effectively the same thing.
MMaRsu
Member
No they wouldnt.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Jeff Gerstmann seems to get it, to understand...
calico
Member
It for sure should be the bigger story than whether Marathon is actually any good, or how well it is or isn't doing. But I guess it would take people from outside of 'games journalism' to actually write that story.
OuterLimits
Member
Sony spent billions expecting Bungie to make them tons of cash on PC/console and be the leader of their GaaS initiative.
Marathon doing mediocre numbers on PC and probably worse on consoles is not going to make Sony happy.
The game will likely have a loyal niche following for many months though.
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Sakura
Member
While they probably wouldn't, it likely just isn't worth it to take the risk.
If you have 10 journos, 5 heed Bungie's request, and 5 don't, then maybe in the future that could bias Sony to be more willing to give interviews, access, etc to the 5 that did what they wanted.
Fermbiz
Gold Member
He mentions that its a headphone game, where you need to listen for footsteps and gunfire and what not. Funny enough, I, me, in the year 2026, bought a headset just for this and for communication with teammates. I haven't owned a gaming headset since the 360 days.
MMaRsu
Member
Which shows us how much they cannot be trusted to do honorable, transparant reviews.
Fucking marketing arms is what they are
Everybody should just release their review in solidarity and give the game extra negative score for even daring them to ask waiting in the review
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L*][*N*K
Member
Every game gets reviewed based on what is available at launch, you can do a revision in a year they have done that no problem to be honest it is fair these games evolve but blocking reviews is the most anti consumer thing anyone has ever done in this industry, to make sure they sell some copies based on Bungie's name alone before the 6s roll out is dirty tactics you can't name it anything else.
CentralScrutinizer
Member
Destiny 1 was coming off Halo Reach. Marathon is coming off the dragged corpse of Destiny 2. Completely differeny context.I said this in another thread, and I will say it again here. People forget but Destiny 1 is "76" on metacritic and got many 7s, 8s, etc. Don't count out bungie yet with marathon. It ain't a sprint, but a marathon
MMaRsu
Member
Jeff liking a game means nothing anymore. His tastes are competely weird.
And not to mention the fact he was all reee about KCD2, which lost my respect for him totally. "Isnt this that game thats historically accurate? Hmmm" lol fuck off Jeff you highbrow cunt
I used to love watching him, but Nextlander did the same and totally ignored KCD2 because of the 'historically accurate' bs.
Fuck all those dumbasses
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
He's arguably the greatest games critic in history. His word carries a metric ton of weight. Marathon is legendary.
diffusionx
Gold Member
gerstmann has been in this forever. he even had a quasi cult of personality with giant bomb
I feel like at some point these old guys just want to play vidya and enjoy what they enjoy and get out of this thing but it's all they can do, like what is gonna do if he doesnt want to review video games anymore, work at a bank?
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MMaRsu
Member
Lmao
The most irrelevant games critic these days
With his little Twitch stream and Patreon
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
You know someone is important when strangers call them irrelevant. Gerstmann is a legend, just like Marathon.
MMaRsu
Member
Doesnt mean his opinion is fact tho
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
By every objective measure, it does.
MMaRsu
Member
I mean you aren't someone with an objective mind so nobody can take you seriously
LyricalShrike
Member
????
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Objectively false in the most mathematical sense.
Von Hugh
Member
You have lost your mind, my dude.
kat_on_the_roof
Member
The game has pretty good reviews on Steam.
I don't know about you guys, but I trust Steam ratings more than game reviews from journalists.
Maybe it goes f2p at some point. I would love to try the game (even though im a casual at pvp).
I don't know about you guys, but I trust Steam ratings more than game reviews from journalists.
Maybe it goes f2p at some point. I would love to try the game (even though im a casual at pvp).