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[daffyduck]

Translation:
URGENT — Cuban dictator Díaz Canel announces on national television that the regime has begun negotiations with the United States.

He admits the beginning of "a sensitive process" for the dictatorship.

If any country should be "annexed" by the US, that's the one.

 

[dem]

Just imagine if Putin. Xi Jinping or Kim Jong Un, all leaders of nuclear armed countries, would hold speeches saying the exact same thing as Trump... We'd all believe they're completely out of their mind and that the whole world is doomed with absolute mad men having the power to blow up the world. But with Trump this has all been normalized somehow ... It's just astonishing. This is really not the way the president of the USA should speak and write ....

Paving the way for further retardation.

Same braindead seals clapping

 

[Ipsi]

 

[Jaybe]

 

[Windle Poons]

RIP to all on board that refuelling tanker however

The circumstances of the incident are under investigation. However, the loss of the aircraft was not due to hostile fire or friendly fire.

Do people believe this? I mean would US Central Command admit if if it had been shot down / hit by a drone? Trump wants to make it seem the US military are untouchable?

 

[Smiggs]

RIP to all on board that refuelling tanker however



Do people believe this? I mean would US Central Command admit if if it had been shot down / hit by a drone? Trump wants to make it seem the US military are untouchable?

I think Iran would try and take credit if they did it. Besides, an in air collision between two friendlies is likely more embarrassing than being shot down.

 

[Windle Poons]

I think Iran would try and take credit if they did it. Besides, an in air collision between two friendlies is likely more embarrassing than being shot down.

Okay, sorry - was it a collision? Did a fighter jet also crash? There's not much about it you see which makes it suspicious (to me)

 

[DeepEnigma]

RIP to all on board that refuelling tanker however



Do people believe this? I mean would US Central Command admit if if it had been shot down / hit by a drone? Trump wants to make out the USA military are untouchable?

After seeing the tail section of the plane, yes.

Looks like they touched.

 

[daffyduck]

I think Iran would try and take credit if they did it. Besides, an in air collision between two friendlies is likely more embarrassing than being shot down.

According to CNN (on air), an Iranian proxy group claimed responsibilty.

But the implication is that the bird that crashed was trying to refuel it's own tank from the one that safely landed with a piece of it's tail missing.

 

[Windle Poons]

After seeing the tail section of the plane, yes.

Looks like they touched.

Geez. I thought it meant a collision with a fighter jet. They are big bastard things it is amazing they both didnt crash.

Sorry for the edits - three things at once going on and not reading properly. My bad.

 

[DeepEnigma]

They let this one fly? Or attempt to take off?

Sorry, the media is really sketchy about this (or I'm just not seeing it)

No, it landed after damage was taken. Meaning it was part of possible collision.

 

[daffyduck]

…

 

[calico]

They let this one fly? Or attempt to take off?

Sorry, the media is really sketchy about this (or I'm just not seeing it)

The tanker in the photo with the tail damage was (most likely) refueling another tanker. They clipped during refueling, damaging the one in the photo (which landed safely) and causing the other tanker (the one being refueled) to crash.

 

[ResilientBanana]

Thankfully no kids in session and security got the guy

there were kids there, I believe it's also a daycare as one of our friends had kids in the building during the event.

 

[Windle Poons]

Yeah, sorry DeepEnigma and calico I wasn't reading properly.

 

[adamsapple]

Looks like various countries are now individually reaching out to Iran for safe passage for their ships.

France and Italy open talks with Iran on securing safe Hormuz passage, FT reports

March 13 () - France and ‌Italy have ‌opened talks with Iran seeking to negotiate a deal ‌to ⁠guarantee safe passage for ⁠their ships through the Strait of Hormuz, ‌the Financial Times reported on...

ca.news.yahoo.com

March 13 (Reuters) - France and ‌Italy have ‌opened talks with Iran seeking to negotiate a deal ‌to ⁠guarantee safe passage for ⁠their ships through the Strait of Hormuz, ‌the Financial Times reported on Friday, citing people ‌briefed on the efforts.

 

[calico]

Could be France surrendering to terrorism already (likely), or it could be so when Iran maintains a position of 'no we will attack your civilian vessels if they try to use the strait', France has cause to join the attacks.

 

[Gp1]

But if you have a tanker that can refuel it couldn't you just use that one to refuel what it was going to refuel? Maybe it's fuel types or because then you can have two tankers refueling instead of one.

I've posted an entire article explaining what does the Kc-135rt does.
Over simplificating, their squad is the equivalent of the 160th Night Stalkers for refueling.

Edit. Just in

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Iran went from ayatollah to comatollah

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[DeepEnigma]

If anyone bought the CNN article, especially how it was framed, you indeed do deserve to be ridiculed for being a total room temp with a drool cup.

 

[IntentionalPun]

It's one thing to plan for the idea of Iran closing the straight "for decades" it's another thing to expect it out of this most recent attack on them.

"We planned to cripple the world economy during a time where the economy is already kind of fucked" is some real big brained propaganda though.

You have to be a fucking retard to actually believe any Republican.

 

[Vlodril]

Trust the plan.

 

[Mortisfacio]

Is there more context to this clip or is this statement as dumb as it sounds?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Is there more context to this clip or is this statement as dumb as it sounds?

Yeah, stop being typical F*in terrorists, Iran.

Mr. "That was a War Crime" regime.

 

[poppabk]

I'm not sure which is worse - not planning for it, or the plan including to tell ships not to be chicken.

 

[calico]

Think he's just pointing out that it's 'closed' due to Iran's terroristic position that it will attack any unapproved civilian vessel, not due to the US, which is true. It's not closed because 'it's a warzone and you might accidentally get caught in the crossfire' or something like that; it's closed because Iran will deliberately target civilian vessels of neutral countries. The blame rests solely with Iran.

It matters because the question people should be asking is: why is the rest of the world allowing Iran to attack or threaten to attack their shipping without consequence?

 

[Cyberpunkd]

The blame rests solely with Iran.

Iran attacked first?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Iran attacked first?

They've been attacking first for over 50 years.

And yes, they were attacking neutral civilian ships like the terrorists they are.

Bulbs aren't too bright this morning. But keep going hard in the paint for them tho.

 

[LimanimaPT]

Iran went from ayatollah to comatollah

Who's going to be in coma soon will be Trump when all those petrodolars stop flowing.
And the rest of us when the world economy blows.

 

[adamsapple]

Is there more context to this clip or is this statement as dumb as it sounds?

No shit, Pete?

 

[LimanimaPT]

They've been attacking first for over 50 years.

And yes, they were attacking neutral civilian ships like the terrorists they are.

Bulbs aren't too bright this morning. But keep going hard in the paint for them tho.

Stop with the lies. Trump started this.
They are attacking the ships as a strategy of war not as terrorism. And it's working.

 

[Jaybe]

I know a lot of this started in academia, but it must go far deeper than that for it to propagate across the entirety of the left. The people on Era haven't even made a thread about the terrorist in Michigan yesterday, and they usually can't help but jump over each other to make a post about a shooting. Didn't see much about the Texas bar shooting, either. Disgusting.

It's been eye opening seeing the thread there, especially one prominent poster/leaker. His history on here goes back over a decade with pro-Iran, pro-Palestine. anti-Israel rhetoric but while on here it was challenged, there is completely unhinged and unchecked, even bolstered with positive comments. You'd think Iran was winning because a few drones landed and USA had hundreds of unreported military deaths being covered up.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

They've been attacking first for over 50 years.

And yes, they were attacking neutral civilian ships like the terrorists they are.

Bulbs aren't too bright this morning. But keep going hard in the paint for them tho.

So how is that special military operation going?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Stop with the lies. Trump started this.
They are attacking the ships as a strategy of war not as terrorism. And it's working.

So how is that special military operation going?

Lots of dead terrorist leaders and counting.

 

[Jaybe]

Iran attacked first?

You know Hamas and Hezbollah are Iranian proxies right? Plus Iran knew nukes were a red line for USA but apparently were telling Witkoff how close they were to a bomb. Seems like they fucked around and are finding out.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

You know Hamas and Hezbollah are Iranian proxies right? Plus Iran knew nukes were a red line for USA but apparently were telling Witkoff how close they were to a bomb. Seems like they fucked around and are finding out.

And Israel is not US proxy?

 

[Jaybe]

And Israel is not US proxy?

It's its own country. Thanks.

 

[calico]

Iran attacked first?

In the case of civilian vessels of neutral nations, yes it is Iran attacking (or threatening to attack) first.

Being attacked does not give a nation a free pass to attack civilian shipping of every nation in the world, obviously.

 

[Vestal]

In the case of civilian vessels of neutral nations, yes it is Iran attacking (or threatening to attack) first.

Being attacked does not give a nation a free pass to attack civilian shipping of every nation in the world, obviously.

Who's going to stop them though? They have an iron grip around the strait and according to reports, nation states are negotiating with them instead of going against them. So they are still being recognized as having legitimate power and influence.

We don't have a world police, if we did they may consider that along with what we are doing off the coast of Venezuela as war crimes or against international norms.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Lots of dead terrorist leaders and counting.

And once again America fucks it up for everybody else.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

It's its own country. Thanks.

Check how much money you are spending to support said country, report back.

 

[Scary_Larry]

This administration has poorly planned this out from the onset and at this point, the US should figure out a way to make this end quickly. Then again, you're relying on this administration to be educated on the region and actually competent.

As a ex-pat, it doesn't appear they have a serious plan at the moment. The US is fantastic at hitting hard and fast and making the dominos fall. Right now, we've seen that. The Iran navy, Air Force and missile forces are in shambles.

What you aren't seeing is the collapse of the regime just yet. Maybe in a few months or years, but certainly not soon. The Trump administration thought this was going to be like Venezuela and that is the most telling thing of it all. Iran isn't going to cut any deals and it's insanely stupid to think they would.

If they put boots on the ground in Iran, that would turn ugly in a hurry.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

In the case of civilian vessels of neutral nations, yes it is Iran attacking (or threatening to attack) first.

Being attacked does not give a nation a free pass to attack civilian shipping of every nation in the world, obviously.

It's almost like they are fighting back in a way they can, and not in a way they can't…

 

[DeepEnigma]

And once again America fucks it up for everybody else.

It's still the terrorists doing it at the end of the day.

The Trump administration thought this was going to be like Venezuela

This was never said, and just gaslighting.

 

[Jaybe]

Check how much money you are spending to support said country, report back.

Your trolling is lame, mate. If you seriously don't think Iran is the impetus behind most of the violence and terrorism in the Middle East and they needed to be deprived of nuclear weapons, that's unfortunate but I'll leave you to it.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Your trolling is lame, mate. If you seriously don't think Iran is the impetus behind most of the violence and terrorism in the Middle East and they needed to be deprived of nuclear weapons, that's unfortunate but I'll leave you to it.

Why does America care? You are routinely dealing with regimes like China and Russia. Trump promised not to drag you into any new conflict, wasn't it supposed to be "America first"?
Iran has been Iran for decades, they are far more consistent than Trump.

 

[winjer]

 

[calico]

Who's going to stop them though?

Who's going to, or who should?

Every nation now subject to Iran's terroristic threat to attack their civilian shipping should do something about it, in order to defend both their specific right to navigate the strait and their broader right to freedom of navigation. Surrendering to it sets a terrible precedent.

Will they do anything to stop them? Probably not, because it's easier to let the US carry the burden of such things for them.

It's almost like they are fighting back in a way they can, and not in a way they can't…

In a terroristic way against neutral civilian vessels, yes, which is what is being pointed out.

The nations affected should be treating it for what it is: an unprovoked attack against them.

 

[Durien]

One question that I have is, Iran said they had enough material to make 11 bombs. Where is that material now?

Has it been said or is it assumed to be blown up?