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Marathon - Reviews Thread
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PeteBull
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Lets not forget even such an artocity like concord managed to get 62 meta score from sellout reviewers, being modern audience gaas AAA game pushed hard by omnipotent publisher is enough to get to that even if said game is of very low quality.
www.metacritic.com
When all is said and done and we get reviews from all major sites 75+ overall meta is a given unless journos really wanna antagonize one of the biggest pubs aka sony, and they would rather antagonize whole gaming community instead since their livehood is directly dependand on their relationship with publishers 
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L*][*N*K
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Dr. Samuel Hayden
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NOOOO... THIS CANNOT BE!!!
willothedog
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NOOOO... THIS CANNOT BE!!!
It's not my cup of tea, but why did you rate it '0'?
clarky
Gold Member
Marathon First Impressions
Marathon is an incredibly overwhelming game, but if and when its core loop clicks, it's an unforgettable experience.
gamerant.com
DenchDeckard
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Sony doesn't need shills, they literally strong arm and threaten every review site that doesn't bend the knee.
Kinda gangstah, tbh.
clarky
Gold Member
Maybe its because it takes more than just a few days to review.
Or would you like a review from someone who doesn't fully understand the game or has not played all the content that you get for the price if entry?
I love it personally but that might change once I reach the end game, it might suck.
L*][*N*K
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Yes it takes 9 days to review a game that comes with 3 maps, they really should have like a council to analyze a game as complex as Marathon, give me a break cultist this is something you cannot defend.
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clarky
Gold Member
You know nothing about the game give me a break. If you are on the fence about buying it wait for your favourite reviewer to publish or look to user reviews.
Although i suspect you have no interest in the game and are just looking for something to moan about.
L*][*N*K
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I don't care about the game it is not the point, blocking reivews is a scummy practice that Sony is getting away with it and cultists like you are defending it, that is the problem here.
Fess
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Big media day 1 critic reviews are pointless anyway nowadays. Every game gets at minimum a day 1 patch but is often patched for half a year and some even get huge updates. But Metacritic reviews are static. Based on a review code. So we're supposed to listen to 50 or whatever people who rush through a game review code before release? Why? Nobody is literally ever going to play the game they're rating.
User reviews from thousands of gamers is better. Like Steam. The only problem there is to cull the review bombings. Can't just look at the default percentage. You always need to filter for playtime. Go for a minimum playtime that fits the genre to understand what the current state of the game is for people who play it and like the genre.
dreamstation
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This game was never going to review in the 80-90 range because most games reviewers are terrible when it comes to FPS and even more so when it's mostly focused on PvP like this. Have been having a blast since launch, 34 hours over the week and it feels like I've barely scratched the surface when it comes to all the systems and learning the maps and all the ins and outs of the weaponry, attachments and all the rest of the loot. There is a ton of depth here that most outsiders looking in won't be able to see. All they see is a shooting game, not all the little nuances that make the game fantastic. You're better off scouring through user reviews that have put in a decent amount of time to get your sense of whether or not it's for you.
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clarky
Gold Member
Cultist lol, i just like the game. Shoot me.
People are free to review it if they like its out in the wild after all or do a review in progress. I posted one such review to which you laughed at because it was positive.
Spoiler, It'll review in the 70-80 range as its a love it or hate it type of game. Sorry not everyone has an irrational hate agenda like yourself.
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L*][*N*K
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9 days bro, the game has been out for 9 days with no review! You can't defend this.
yurinka
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They didn't block the reviews, there are already some out there.
They simply suggested them to take some time to play the game and wait to see the release of the 4th map (I assume once the related ARG game gets completed) and the ranked mode.
For GaaS titles -and particularly PvP focused ones- makes sense to take some time with the game live to review it.
dreamstation
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Read the countless user reviews or watch videos on youtube or a good streamer on twitch. Plenty of reviews out there by people that have actually played it, and are probably better equipped to make a fair judgement. You get to see what the game plays like at all different levels (especially watching different twitch streamers) and then make a call based on that. Why you need someone from Kotaku or any other brand to tell you it's good/bad? The people are the best at that.
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Negotiator101
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Look we all know for a good while Sony first party games are rated generously and let's just leave it at that.
The Marathon situation isn't helping the game anyway, people are just not liking the game unfortunately.
Fess
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I don't play the game and I don't defend anything, I've just been critical of big media reviews for a long long time. I mean imagine looking at day 1 reviews of No Man's Sky…
The industry has changed, games are always patched or evolving now. But critic reviews aren't changed after updates. So the reality is that pre-release reviews (or day 9 reviews) no longer say much about how a game CURRENTLY is. It's just someone getting paid to say how the first iteration of a game is which barely anyone else will play.
And it can go both ways, a game can get worse after a patch too, sometimes they add mtx and tweak the in-game economy to make it more grindy, and big media reviews just go "Lalala can't hear you!" no matter what.
Calverz
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100% this. I learned this years and years ago. Metacritic is almost irrelevant to me. Almost.
RSMan
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Here's the thing: Marathon actually has some genuinely strong elements. The art style is unique, the soundtrack is excellent, and the sci-fi atmosphere is really compelling.
But that alone isn't enough. And honestly, as harsh as it may sound, the industry might actually benefit if it fails.
The market is already drowning in GAAS slop. What we need far more of are focused, high-quality single-player experiences.
I honestly don't understand why Bungie didn't just focus on making Destiny 3, especially considering how successful Destiny 2 was.
But that alone isn't enough. And honestly, as harsh as it may sound, the industry might actually benefit if it fails.
The market is already drowning in GAAS slop. What we need far more of are focused, high-quality single-player experiences.
I honestly don't understand why Bungie didn't just focus on making Destiny 3, especially considering how successful Destiny 2 was.
ByWatterson
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clarky
Gold Member
85% positive on steam and 4.5 on Playstation seems like those playing the game like it just fine.
coachmcguirk91
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STFU dude. The people playing the game really enjoy the game. User scores indicate that. Just because you view the game as GAAS slop don't mean it is. If anything, Bungie making Destiny 3 would be "GAAS slop". At least with Marathon Bungie took a chance at doing something very different.
You may not like it. The hardcore nature of it may be too niche, but piss off saying it would be good if the game failed because it is not for you
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dreamstation
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Well luckily for us the gameplay systems are also superb. And when I'm not playing I'm thinking about when I'll be playing next. That's what gaming is all about to me.
RSMan
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"Something very different" lol is a stretch when it's another extraction shooter built around the same GAAS framework we've seen a million times already.
I've already acknowledged the positives, but pretending the concept itself is revolutionary and unique?
MMaRsu
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When the developer ask their playerbase to leave a review on Discord im like lulz
MMaRsu
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coachmcguirk91
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What other extraction game is a "hero shooter"? Does it play like Tarkov, Helldivers 2, or Arc Raiders? No, no, and no. By your metrics, the game would have to create a new genre in order to be revolutionary. Hell, you got an incredibly unique art style and people shit on the game because of it
"Something very different" lol is a stretch when it's another extraction shooter built around the same GAAS framework we've seen a million times already.
I've already acknowledged the positives, but pretending the concept itself is revolutionary and unique?
It is like saying Apex Legends shouldn't exist because it is just another Battle Royal game like Fortnite
Shtof
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That's the thing. If the game doesn't live on in my head after I tried it first time, it's not for me.
Marathon did tho.
MMaRsu
Member
Hero shooter
Its just a bunch of classes
Unique doesnt equal good by the way
I could make a unique painting and it would still be shit (cause I cant paint)
RSMan
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I actually enjoyed my time with Marathon.
But do you think art style alone is enough to carry this game?
After around three hours, I felt like I'd experienced most of what the game has to offer. The atmosphere, gunplay and music are great, but beyond that there isn't much depth to keep players engaged. Its rinse and repeat with the same 3 maps...
Its just not enough to sustain interest long term, which is likely why players are already dropping off.
Meanwhile Destiny is far more ambitious with its PvE component and broader scope.
Edit. Id also like to add. Destiny has raids, strikes, Arena etc 5 different enemy races to fight against and a PVP mode.
Destiny has its problems but its far more ambitious than Marathon. Let's be honest.
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HRK69
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Textbook cope
Reviewers clearly know their way around FPS mechanics and PvP. Their criticisms focused on messy UI, confusing onboarding, a steep learning curve for new players and the typical growing pains of a live-service extraction shooter. Those are fair points
They have nothing to do with being "bad at shooters"
Marathon is just a highly mediocre game.
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coachmcguirk91
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Destiny fan wanting Marathon to fail so Destiny 3 will be developed quicker. Why didn't you just come out and say it? No reason to beat around the bush. Bungie didn't make the game you wanted. It has little to do with the merits of Marathon
dreamstation
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Got a link to your profile showing you've played it extensively to be able to form an unbiased and informed opinion mate or are you just talking out your ass again?
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HRK69
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Nah mate, I haven't touched Marathon at all. And I don't need to.
Do I also need to play Superman 64 before I can say the game is bad? Lmfao
If 'extensive playtime' was suddenly mandatory for an opinion, half the thread would have an invalid opinion. Including the positive fanboy takes that only played 3 hours.
Plus, I was only echoing what reviewers said. Don't act so fragile because you pre-ordered this trash.
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Johnny Concrete
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I give it a 10/10 so far. Just what I needed.
I don't see any game come close to it this year, unless Control Resonant is brilliant.
I don't see any game come close to it this year, unless Control Resonant is brilliant.
RSMan
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Edit. Nvm. Yup you got me
Destiny fan wanting Marathon to fail so Destiny 3 will be developed quicker. Why didn't you just come out and say it? No reason to beat around the bush. Bungie didn't make the game you wanted. It has little to do with the merits of Marathon
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Hector Hall
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Game has like 87% in Steam and 90% (4.62 out of 5) on PSN by some thousands people (29k rated it on Steam, 8K on PSN).
Can we stop discussing if people that have played actually liked it?
Can we stop discussing if people that have played actually liked it?
Kokoloko85
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Dont think this is a review, but he seems to like it lol
Kokoloko85
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You're asking obsessive haters to do something better with their time… I doubt it happens.
Most these guys want to see Bungie and Sony to fail or gaas games to fail for their reasons. Same people havent stopped in years lol
MMaRsu
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Ah yes we love seeing talent wasted on chasing trends
Kokoloko85
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Well it entered the respectable zone. I was sure there was a Marathon metacritic prediction thread but can't find it now.
Cryo Archive only gonna push it forward.
Same as Destiny 1 basically.
Sure its no HD2 or Ark, but it having solid gameplay and a hardcore fanbase it should be ok once the next drops hit, ranked mode, marathon ship etc
I dont think Bungie thought this was gonna be the next Destiny. More there take on an extraction shooter, which is niche anyway
Kokoloko85
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Well theres other talented studios you can go follow. And I dont see extraction shooters as a trend really.
Bungie has always been heavy on FPS and MP games. Why cant they put there talents on any extraction shooter? The gameplay is great.
They will work on Destiny 3 and then hopefully something else after. Im glad they are releasing something else before the next Destiny.
They can try making other games, and this was supposedly not all their full team working on. Its a quality extraction shooter, and if there gonna do FPS sub genres, this is great way.
And if bungie's gonna do a SP game with tradtional MP, its mostly likely gonna be then exclusive to PS console, so people will complain anyway whatever Bungie does
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clarky
Gold Member
Dunno what game you played but im 70 hours deep and I've not even finished all the quests. If you only played 3 hours then you only played 2 maps and you didn't scratch the surface.
clarky
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MMaRsu
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MMaRsu
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Which other AAA studios with the pedigree of Bungie are making SP shooters?
clarky
Gold Member
its followed many FPS before it that were very popular. One could almost say they were trending at the time.
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