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[T4keD0wN]

 

[hinch7]

I think we just grew up as more of an enthusiast side of things, hence why most of us are still here on these forums and miss getting excited at devs hand crafting better models and worlds with hours of raster dedication, honing their crafts and not only one upping themselves, but each other every generation.

It was exciting seeing the next Naughty Dog character models, chest hair moving, pours in the skin, blemishes and tones, muscle contortions, lighting, animation motion branches, etc., and maybe some are concerned everything will become more "samey sterile by a flick of a switch" so to speak.

On the other side of it imagine what a talent team of developers like ND, or daresay Rockstar can do with this technology; to enhance the look of their games. GTA 7 may as well look like real life in whatever city they decide to base it off of.

People are quick to poo poo this as 'slop' but the the potential shown is actually insane.

 

[bender]

I always try native first with a new game, but It has its uses. When you're going from 1440p to 4K the difference is unnoticeable these days. I'm not a fan of these 720p to 4K upscales though.

I don't agree, particularly in motion, but my stubbornness will not stop this snowball from rolling downhill.

 

[CGNoire]

The image quality in mainstream games in the past five years has gone severely down. With DLSS5 it will go down further.

Console are not getting dlss5 so you safe.

 

[KaiserBecks]

That's from an earlier promo trailer that someone turned into news or a blogpost or whatever before the release of the game. The game literally tells you that it takes place in 2026 multiple times. For example, at the very end of the game.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

 

[tTHANOSs]

She is suppose the be ~27 in the game. Which confused the hell out of me because she looked young as hell.

Grace should be in her early 20s.

 

[DR3AM]

 

[March Climber]

She is suppose the be ~27 in the game. Which confused the hell out of me because she looked young as hell.

Most Gen Z movie stars are near or at their early 30s, including Zendaya, Sydney Sweeney, Timothee Chalamet, Jenna Ortega, etc.

They just look younger in general man. Alcohol and cigarette sales are also down too so idk

 

[DavidGzz]

Maybe they will have an environment and human model toggles. You all can play your cartoon characters in a real looking world lol

 

[cormack12]

Maybe they will have an environment and human model toggles. You all can play your cartoon characters in a real looking world lol

 

[jasondefaoite]

Bullying someone because you don't agree with their opinion. Yes, that's definitely the higher ground here.

 

[TGO]

I wander what people are going to say when they start seeing actual nextgen games
You can't honestly believe they'll look lesser then what you're seeing with this?
The only problem I have with it is how consistent it will be.

 

[T4keD0wN]

Maybe they will have an environment and human model toggles. You all can play your cartoon characters in a real looking world lol

sounds cursed

 

[Jesb]

If there was a way to have dlss 5 for just environment details than maybe I could see some benefit, but every character looks like ai slop filter. Just delete this lol.

 

[ReasonBeing]

I didn't watch the presentation nor the Digital Foundry coverage, how does this impact performance?

 

[TheAtomicPile]

 

[Rising_Hei]

 

[ResilientBanana]

Epic Games developer:

He's right

 

[amigastar]

DLSS 5 off

DLSS 5 on

 

[Ribi]

If you think about it, we really shouldn't even have settings in games, as it could ruin the artistic intent.

Uh, mommy?

Agreed. The switch is ruining artists intentions by downgrading graphics

 

[DryvBy]

These memes keep on comin'.

 

[ValiantInstance]

The only one that actually looks passable is the Van Dijk one. But that's mainly because the lighting on Fifa games since they moved to Frostbite is dreadful, so it's just polishing a turd.

The rest is serious uncanny valley stuff, especially in motion.

 

[adamsapple]

10/10

 

[BloodFree]

 

[yansolo]

lol the memes are hilarious, but joking aside it doesnt look bad at all in my opinion, video games must be the only hobby on the planet where everyone is constantly outraged or upset about something.

 

[cripterion]

 

[Rising_Hei]

This guy comments on the differences between Grace's DLSS 5 ON and OFF; he's spot on. Edit: he also comments on other models.

 

[Fabieter]

lol the memes are hilarious, but joking aside it doesnt look bad at all in my opinion, video games must be the only hobby on the planet where everyone is constantly outraged or upset about something.

Its part of the fun tbh.

 

[Chittagong]

Its part of the fun tbh.

I could never get into console wars, arguing about the impact of Series S or whether Magnus is a PC seemed so dumb.

But this war I can finally get onboard with, DLSS 5 looks amazing and will be the future I want. Cerny should postpone PS6 until he has copied the homework.

 

[Fabieter]

I could never get into console wars, arguing about the impact of Series S or whether Magnus is a PC seemed so dumb.

But this war I can finally get onboard with, DLSS 5 looks amazing and will be the future I want. Cerny should postpone PS6 until he has copied the homework.

There is always something to conplain about like always. Is some kind of human nature and you will alwass find a group to bitch about shit if you look hard enough. A month from now we will bitch about something different and other people will agree with the mob.

Anyway i think ps6 is gonna be hard on AI like insanely crazy hard. Its not gonna be as advanced as dlss 5.0 but there is no way ps6 isnt going for something similar.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

 

[yansolo]

Its part of the fun tbh.

yeh i guess you're right, a lot of it also seems to be a "i hate something because my favorite youtuber/streamer/whatever told me i should" type of thing

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Hard truths

 

[Jesb]

It's too bad we can't have parts of dlss 5. I wouldn't mind it if we can choose for it to affect the environments only and not the characters in the game. I wonder if that would be more welcomed if you didn't have to have everything use that tech but parts of the game.

 

[Celcius]

Hard truths

We would 100% still complain lol. We know what we're seeing with our eyes and we don't like it, whatever the tech behind the scenes is.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

We would 100% still complain lol. We know what we're seeing with our eyes and we don't like it, whatever the tech behind the scenes is.

Yeah...but not because AI.

 

[realcool]

DLSS 5 OFF = Lasagnan

DLSS 5 ON = D'Artagnan

 

[Jinxed]

I came in here to see what all the fuss was about since all pictures I've seen clearly show dlss 5 looks way better.

AI slop, oh ok, I get it

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

Hard truths

Starfield looks so much better that it's hilarious... amazing that you can get these visuals from a trash game built by those devs who were miles below acceptable competence in their field. It might even one day make a GameFreak title look good!

 

[peish]

You need to stop using ChatGPT. All Textures are sampled during rasterization / modified via shading. Those textures are compressed with NTC. (Textures can feature Albedo, Normal Maps, Roughness, whatever else). This allows a nice high quality base image to be composited, but there is only so much high resolution textures will give you, there is additional lighting passes, post processing etc done on the composited image. However this image will have game like lighting, and other compromises that a texture alone cannot provide. Then the entire image as a whole, is fed into the upscaler, and it samples the image and generates new pixels, throwing away all of that texture detail from the rasterization. They are different stages of the image generation, and the highest res textures you can imagine, are not enough to give the scene more quality than the lighting and art direction provide.

But chatgpt gives me tips how to use NTC on UE5

I still can't wrap my head around why the super outrage at dlss5. Seems it is doing a good job generating a higher quality environmental lighting in conjunction with NTC.

 

[Knight of the Round]

I just saw this on Facebook

DLSS OFF

DLSS ON

At this point, I don't know if the person who posted this on Facebook is meme-ing, or a genuine retard.

 

[Madflavor]

I for one can't wait to run DLSS 5 someday at 20-30fps on my native 4k on a GPU with a price tag that got me kicked out of my house.

I fucking LOVE prominent laugh lines on every character.

 

[Knight of the Round]

I also can't help but notice that Grace was improved around 80% with GEN AI, while Leon was improved by only 20%. Goes to show how much Capcom was pulling back from making the females look realistically attractive in order to not be accused of being sexist and keep in line with their DEI overlords. And that goes for every single female character in Requiem, from Grace to the early nurse that gets murdered. All male characters look like they were made in a PS5 game, while the females look like they were made for PS3. Just put Grace and Leon faces side to side, or even the cop in the intro or Grace's boss. They look like they were made by different devs, when compared with Grace, or like Grace was made two console generations ago. It's surreal.

I hope DLSS5 is able to be modded. It will solve all the 'plain and meh' female faces problem we've been having in games for the past eight years.

 

[GooseMan69]

I for one can't wait to run DLSS 5 someday at 20-30fps on my native 4k on a GPU with a price tag that got me kicked out of my house.

I fucking LOVE prominent laugh lines on every character.

That's one of the more comical parts about this. It took like 8 grand worth of hardware to run this monstrosity, only to look like fucking garbage.

 

[evanft]

I just saw this on Facebook

DLSS OFF

DLSS ON

I really wish the ignore list feature could go beyond 1000 entries.

 

[IlGialloMondadori]

Starfield looks so much better that it's hilarious... amazing that you can get these visuals from a trash game built by those devs who were miles below acceptable competence in their field. It might even one day make a GameFreak title look good!

No, it looks like shit. Kellams can say all he wants, but 1) it looks like gen AI imagery which most people don't like 2) we know what the game looked like before the dlss5 was applied, so I can say, whether I'm a developer or not, that I think it looks worse than before being applied, 3) it's a process that alters the original image, handing it off to an ai model to modify the image, which is something I don't like 4) I have eyes. It's shit.

Starfield looked like shit before, and it looks like worse shit here.

 

[Von Hugh]

I came in here to see what all the fuss was about since all pictures I've seen clearly show dlss 5 looks way better.

AI slop, oh ok, I get it

Let the NPCs be NPCs. They can't think for themselves so their initial reaction is always "AI slop".

 

[cormack12]

People are going to have to do a flip flop and realise what they've been playing for years and what's on screen is the real 'fake' image, and this tech allows what they wanted all along.

 

[daninthemix]

No, it looks like shit. Kellams can say all he wants, but 1) it looks like gen AI imagery which most people don't like 2) we know what the game looked like before the dlss5 was applied, so I can say, whether I'm a developer or not, that I think it looks worse than before being applied, 3) it's a process that alters the original image, handing it off to an ai model to modify the image, which is something I don't like 4) I have eyes. It's shit.

Starfield looked like shit before, and it looks like worse shit here.

I find this take absolutely wild. Of all the games shown, Starfield shows the most benefit, and particularly in its characters.