Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012
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AceBandage
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U need to go!
We already have enough indicating that it's over 1GB to throw this out. Also, I'm pretty sure that stacked RAM isn't cheap, either.
No U
BlackNMild2k1
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crazy monkey
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wiiiiiiii uuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuu meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
MisterHero
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yeah if TVs were as advanced as Nintendo back then, GC and Wii might've been 3D
jump_button
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Wii 2, Wii+, Wii HD,
90's names
Super Wii, Mega Wii, Wii 720
90's names
Super Wii, Mega Wii, Wii 720
AceBandage
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Just drop Wii altogether.
Name it: DestrUctotron!
Name it: DestrUctotron!
BlackNMild2k1
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I'm gonna stick by Wuu
Wii U sounds like the sound an ambulance makes and if I had the motivation I would make an ambulance gif illustrating it.
Wii U sounds like the sound an ambulance makes and if I had the motivation I would make an ambulance gif illustrating it.
Error Macro
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Nintendo Wii U R NOT e
Cerebral Assassin
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If you are gonna drop Wii completely, then it has to be called the Nintendo Omed.
Disorientator
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Gamecube 3
walking fiend
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back to naming stage?
I am for Nintedo 0med
I am for Nintedo 0med
Throw out? Why?
It could very well have been the specs of the first dev kits.
or the reason for the "50% increase of power" over current gen statements.
No one is saying these are the current specs.
However, remember this rumor?
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Stacking dram is happening ATM. PoP, widely used in mobile SoCs, is a rudimentary form of stacking (not using TSVs, apparently, but based on the traditional peripheral off-die wiring). What is *NOT* happening currently, is using stacking with high-performance silicon - if you have an already hot die, stacking more silicon around it makes things only worse - for the hot die, as well as for its neighbors in the stack. So if you already had a hot die at a given fab node, you need to go down a few nodes before you can consider stacking. There's a simple reason why IBM make their monstrous 567mm^2 power7 dies as a 2D IC,and it's that thermodynamics does not allow them to turn that into a much more compact and efficient 3D IC (it's on their roadmaps, though).
As much as lherre seems reliable, I can't help but feel a bit unconvinced about this bit.
I don't doubt lherre's position, and I certainly don't think he's lying... but the specs must have changed since E3, especially if they say we're on the 4th devkit.
Marketing ownage right there.
Yeah for it not to have changed in several revisions seems strange, but we don't have any other insider info really to go on.
I think he meant the parts though. In other words, only clocks have changed. Also keep in mind that one or two of those kits were likely made to fix the issues with the controller.
EDIT: Also, the below post
Isn't it safe to say that something has changed in order for them to effectively accommodate 2 tablet controllers? Or was that just another fake rumor?
AceBandage
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We also have to remember, and no disrespect to IHerre, he's not a hardware guy and doesn't exactly work for a video game company. We don't know what his place is getting compared to like say an EA or a Capcom.
Not saying he's lying, just saying that we don't know any specifics outside of his particular situation.
Not saying he's lying, just saying that we don't know any specifics outside of his particular situation.
maybe the console specs haven't changed, just that the devkit is getting close to final console hardware?
v1 - PC based simulation of expected performance
v2 - update with wiiU controller support
v3 - Final CPU but still using general PC GPU
v4 - final CPU and GPU
etc. (hypothetical versions btw)
Nintendo512
Was't there information from Vigil that they have to change code with the newer devkit because somethings worked different?
lwilliams3
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True, and we have to consider how buggy and glitched some of the earlier dev kits were. Iherre is probably looking at the documentation of the dev kits, but it most likely didn't state, for example, how much can you push the hardware before the GPU causes the system to overheat and crash. The performance can get significantly better with improvements in efficiency alone.
Did everyone forget Gizmondo or something?
iirc, he said he works in the same building as a devkit, not that he's working on it himself. Things could have definitely changed, or there could be impending changes that he wouldn't be aware of because he's not in a position to know. Or the company he works for might just have an older devkit, and they're not a big enough name to be on the short list for the newest kits.
But that's a lot of hypotheticals. I think he's reliable, all in all, but all leaks and rumors should always be taken with a grain of salt.
AceBandage
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bgassassin
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Well he/she seems to bey correct about the time the dev kits went out. And I think the claim also was that they don't make games.
I could see something like that, but it also sounds like the versions have been stability tweaks.
Yes. But I can't remember if that came from Vigil or not.
That was Downwiththeship.
TheExplodingHead
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Spec-wise the only thing I see getting a drastic bump is possibly more memory. The CPU/GPU generally are probably already done and decided and they just get small adjustments based a reliability/stability. I don't see anything getting "more powerful", if anything they will lower clock speeds for temp reasons. After all Nintendo wants nothing like the 360 fiasco with hot unreliable parts.
I'm not so concerned about the quality of the name itself, it could be a lot worse than Wii U technically. The bigger issue is whether or not it will work for marketing and product differentiation. If one of their goals is to reclaim some of the traditional gaming demographic and edge in on the Call of Dutian population, continuing the oft-ridiculed Wii gives them an extra hurdle to overcome. And to the super-casuals, those that bought a Wii for Wii Fit and little to nothing else, may not recognize the Wii U for being something wholly new unless they really really make a concentrated effort to push that. It's at least a small part of why the 3DS started slowly.
Of course, games will trump all, but we still have no idea what sort of lineup to expect, so speculating about this sort of stuff is the best we get.
cartman414
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Intriguing. I wonder if the Wii might have had a little more staying power with those specs.
Also note that 256 MB was the original amount of RAM for the 360 before Cliffy B. threw in his two cents.
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