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[The Technomancer]

Sweet, my group loves Planechase

 

[y2dvd]

Seems like every deck needs to run 4 Snapcasters. So expensive!

 

[Pandaman]

new ninja cards that are eternal legal? sweet justice! my ink-eyes was getting lonely.

 

[Sblargh]

Seems like every deck needs to run 4 Snapcasters. So expensive!

Ugh, tell me about it. I go "oh, this deck looks... ah, snapcaster. Now, this is... ah, snapcaster".
Card is just too useful, it will never be cheap. EVER!

 

[Pandaman]

could be worse, it could be a skullclamp and be everywhere and affordable to everyone at the same time.

 

[Sblargh]

My FNM was pretty cool for my really low level of play.
1 - 2; 2 - 0; 1 - 2; 2 - 0

I finally got my UB Control Infect Gettho WTF working quite all right; even if it is obviously sub-par.
4 Snapcasters and it could work!

 

[Zerokku]

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?22679-5-0-with-turbofog

If legit, that is amazing. Hahahaha

 

[An-Det]

That deck looks like a blast to use. I messed around with turbo fog in Standard when it was legal a couple years ago, and it was deliciously evil to pull off.

 

[Sblargh]

Trying this right now. Suggestions?
I'm not doing the usual illusions deck because I have neither phantasmal image, lord of the unreal (tho this I could buy) or snapcaster mage; so without phantasmal image, the phantasmal bear x lord of the unreal combo look real weak.
So it's half a delver deck and half an invisible stalker one. The aim is to open with delver (obviously) and then just play what the hand tells me to. If I have counter, I protect the delver, if I don't have, this usually means I can put a invisible stalker and start buffing him.

My experience from cockatrice and FNM is that sometimes I get a free win because everything goes according to keikaku, sometimes I get trampled because nothing gets off the gound. It's kind of do or die, right now, not stable at all, but getting the win cake enough times.

4 Delver of Secrets
20 Island
4 Mana Leak
2 Gitaxian Probe
3 Runechanter's Pike
4 Ponder
1 Mindshrieker
4 Invisible Stalker
4 Think Twice
2 Turn Aside
4 Vapor Snag
4 Grand Architect
4 Dissipate
SB: 4 Insectile Aberration

 

[Lucario]

Trying this right now. Suggestions?
I'm not doing the usual illusions deck because I have neither phantasmal image, lord of the unreal (tho this I could buy) or snapcaster mage; so without phantasmal image, the phantasmal bear x lord of the unreal combo look real weak.
So it's half a delver deck and half an invisible stalker one. The aim is to open with delver (obviously) and then just play what the hand tells me to. If I have counter, I protect the delver, if I don't have, this usually means I can put a invisible stalker and start buffing him.

My experience from cockatrice and FNM is that sometimes I get a free win because everything goes according to keikaku, sometimes I get trampled because nothing gets off the gound. It's kind of do or die, right now, not stable at all, but getting the win cake enough times.

4 Delver of Secrets
20 Island
4 Mana Leak
2 Gitaxian Probe
3 Runechanter's Pike
4 Ponder
1 Mindshrieker
4 Invisible Stalker
4 Think Twice
2 Turn Aside
4 Vapor Snag
4 Grand Architect
4 Dissipate
SB: 4 Insectile Aberration

You very, very, very badly need inkmoths for that deck, especially with pike. Also mindshrieker is bad.

 

[y2dvd]

So a buddy casted Stitch Drake which requires him to exile a creature. He now has one creature. In response, I wanted to sack my Nihil Bomb to exile all of his cards from the graveyard. He says since it was a casting cost of exiling a creature, I know longer have it to exile and thus he's still able to cast it. Is he correct?

 

[f0rk]

So a buddy casted Stitch Drake which requires him to exile a creature. He know has one creature. In response, I wanted to sake my Nihil Bomb to exile all of his cards from the graveyard. He says since it was a casting cost of exiling a creature, I know longer have it to exile and thus he's still able to cast it. Is he correct?

I might be wrong, but the exile is part of the casting cost so he exiles it before putting it on the stack. So it does cast.

 

[daevv]

I'm playing in a Scars of Mirrodin draft tonight. Any cards I should be on the look out for? I'm not fimilar with the set (other than infect) and most sites are blocked here at work.

 

[Sblargh]

You very, very, very badly need inkmoths for that deck, especially with pike. Also mindshrieker is bad.

Mindshrieker is not awesome, but he is fun. If I were one of *those* people with sideboards, I would definetly leave him for decks that use high costing stuff like heartless summoning or birthing pod.
It's a fun card. You flip a coin and he's either nothing or a major threat. It works in a deck where the main problem is to score that couple of hits.
And if I were to spend money on inkmoths, I would probably splash white and go for moorland haunt.

So a buddy casted Stitch Drake which requires him to exile a creature. He know has one creature. In response, I wanted to sake my Nihil Bomb to exile all of his cards from the graveyard. He says since it was a casting cost of exiling a creature, I know longer have it to exile and thus he's still able to cast it. Is he correct?

He's wrong. Exiling a creature is a cost. No creature, can't do it; like mana.

 

[Haly]

Creature is exiled when costs are paid, so no, you can't respond to it with Nihil bomb and soft counter the drake.

If the wording is something like: "When <this card> comes into play, exile a creature from your graveyard. If you don't, sacrifice <this card>", then Nihil Bomb would work since <this card> would come into play, look for something to eat, find nothing, and die of starvation.

 

[Sblargh]

Creature is exiled when costs are paid, so no, you can't respond to it with Nihil bomb and soft counter the drake.

If the wording is something like: "When <this card> comes into play, exile a creature from your graveyard. If you don't, sacrifice <this card>", then Nihil Bomb would work since <this card> would come into play, look for something to eat, find nothing, and die of starvation.

Oh, you're right, I understood wrong (in my defense, wtf at the grammar).
What I was getting at was some weird situation where he says "since my graveyard is empty and I don't have anything to sacrifice, I will cast it anyway"

 

[y2dvd]

Didn't realize I had so many typos lol. Thanks for the clarification guys.

 

[An-Det]

Has anyone else been watching the controversy with Alex Bertoncini and his alleged cheating? Every since he won the SCG Invitational yesterday (and his previous on-camera earlier in the event), all eyes have been on him, various evidence that has come forth, and the pro community has had a lot of discussion. If you read just one thing, I'd recommend it be Ted Knutson's wordpress article.

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=377170

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?22772-Alex-Bertoncini-s-serial-cheating.

http://mixedknuts.wordpress.com/2011/12/12/unlocking-the-cheats-of-scg-player-of-the-year-alex-bertoncini/

 

[kirblar]

I can personally attest to his scumbaggery.

In weirder coincidences- someone replied to the blog post as "Team Sp00ky". Weird.

 

[rCIZZLE]

Seems like every deck needs to run 4 Snapcasters. So expensive!

Ya I thought with so many standard decks that some of them would be somewhat cheap. You're either paying for snapcasters, inkmoths, wurmcoils, angelic destinies, etc, etc.

I can personally attest to his scumbaggery.

In weirder coincidences- someone replied to the blog post as "Team Sp00ky". Weird.

Lol what does the fighting game community care about mtg?

 

[Pandaman]

Lol what does the fighting game community care about mtg?

nerd sports man. watch some GOMTV and every now and then tasteless/artosis will mention how they spend off hours playing street fighter and magic.

 

[Pyke Presco]

Man, I haven`t played this game in almost a decade. Last time I was playing, 7th/Odyssey/Onslaught and then 8th/Onslaught/Mirrodin were Standard. My roommate was playing a few games with a buddy last Friday and I was like `toss me a deck, I wanna play a round or two`.

Needless to say I now have a box of 12th and one of Innistrad, with a fully functional U/W Control and a version of Red Deck Wins, both of which remind me very much of Onslaught/8th edition play. Overall it seems like the cards are not nearly as crazy broken as I remember them being (Ravager Affinity, R/W Astral Slide, Goblin Bidding with Skullclamps...ahhh, the glory days) but the addiction kicked in hardcore nonetheless. I will probably be making my way to FNM soon enough, still remember my old DCI number and everything.

 

[The Technomancer]

Man, I haven`t played this game in almost a decade. Last time I was playing, 7th/Odyssey/Onslaught and then 8th/Onslaught/Mirrodin were Standard. My roommate was playing a few games with a buddy last Friday and I was like `toss me a deck, I wanna play a round or two`.

Needless to say I now have a box of 12th and one of Innistrad, with a fully functional U/W Control and a version of Red Deck Wins, both of which remind me very much of Onslaught/8th edition play. Overall it seems like the cards are not nearly as crazy broken as I remember them being (Ravager Affinity, R/W Astral Slide, Goblin Bidding with Skullclamps...ahhh, the glory days) but the addiction kicked in hardcore nonetheless. I will probably be making my way to FNM soon enough, still remember my old DCI number and everything.

Yeah, the over power level hasn't been anywhere near as high as Mirrodin since then. Innistrad is an awesome set though. Its a shame you skipped over Ravnica block though

 

[rCIZZLE]

Man, I haven`t played this game in almost a decade. Last time I was playing, 7th/Odyssey/Onslaught and then 8th/Onslaught/Mirrodin were Standard. My roommate was playing a few games with a buddy last Friday and I was like `toss me a deck, I wanna play a round or two`.

Needless to say I now have a box of 12th and one of Innistrad, with a fully functional U/W Control and a version of Red Deck Wins, both of which remind me very much of Onslaught/8th edition play. Overall it seems like the cards are not nearly as crazy broken as I remember them being (Ravager Affinity, R/W Astral Slide, Goblin Bidding with Skullclamps...ahhh, the glory days) but the addiction kicked in hardcore nonetheless. I will probably be making my way to FNM soon enough, still remember my old DCI number and everything.

I was the same way about 2 years ago. One of my buddies went drafting with a few college friends and asked if I wanted to go. Damn cardboard crack.

Anyways, the power level dropped big time for spells but a lot of creatures now are pretty good. Even the titans put a lot of the "good" creatures from old to shame. Snapcaster is sick and Tarmogoyf is disgusting in older formats.

 

[Pyke Presco]

Yeah, the snapcaster is crazy good, I pulled 2 of them in my box(along with two stromkirk nobles, one foiled, which are broken as all shit. They're like slith fire walkers, only better), and the snapcaster in U/W control is a dirty, dirty thing. Doubling up on wrath of god (or day of judgement as its called now) is just crazy. Got an instant for UU1 that also copies a creature of yours in play, with flashback. It's like infinite casting ability on every sorcery ever made. Pretty ridonculius.

 

[siddx]

The Bertoncheaty thing had me looking up famous DQ's for cheating and it amazes me how quickly DCI used to jump on cheaters but they've let Bertoncheaty get away with this shit for so long.
One of the DQ's I was reading about involved someone ignoring a misplay by an opponent and getting DQ'ed out of the tournie for it. I know that you have to be responsible for your own misplays but if your opponent fucks up, it should be on them, not you.

 

[The Technomancer]

Has anyone else been watching the controversy with Alex Bertoncini and his alleged cheating? Every since he won the SCG Invitational yesterday (and his previous on-camera earlier in the event), all eyes have been on him, various evidence that has come forth, and the pro community has had a lot of discussion. If you read just one thing, I'd recommend it be Ted Knutson's wordpress article.

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=377170

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?22772-Alex-Bertoncini-s-serial-cheating.

http://mixedknuts.wordpress.com/2011/12/12/unlocking-the-cheats-of-scg-player-of-the-year-alex-bertoncini/

Wow, amazing reads man.

 

[rCIZZLE]

The Bertoncheaty thing had me looking up famous DQ's for cheating and it amazes me how quickly DCI used to jump on cheaters but they've let Bertoncheaty get away with this shit for so long.
One of the DQ's I was reading about involved someone ignoring a misplay by an opponent and getting DQ'ed out of the tournie for it. I know that you have to be responsible for your own misplays but if your opponent fucks up, it should be on them, not you.

Ya I remember reading about this but completely forgot about it. I'd be interested in rereading this if anybody can link.

 

[siddx]

Ya I remember reading about this but completely forgot about it. I'd be interested in rereading this if anybody can link.

This was the article I read it in

 

[red13th]

Has anyone else been watching the controversy with Alex Bertoncini and his alleged cheating? Every since he won the SCG Invitational yesterday (and his previous on-camera earlier in the event), all eyes have been on him, various evidence that has come forth, and the pro community has had a lot of discussion. If you read just one thing, I'd recommend it be Ted Knutson's wordpress article.

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=377170

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?22772-Alex-Bertoncini-s-serial-cheating.

http://mixedknuts.wordpress.com/2011/12/12/unlocking-the-cheats-of-scg-player-of-the-year-alex-bertoncini/

That's shocking and it's baffles me people are trying to pass those as "sloppy play". You don't return to your hand a 2/2 creature that got smashed for 2 damage because you are playing sloppily, you do it because you're a cheating scumbag.

 

[kirblar]

That's shocking and it's baffles me people are trying to pass those as "sloppy play". You don't return to your hand a 2/2 creature that got smashed for 2 damage because you are playing sloppily, you do it because you're a cheating scumbag.

Ivory Tower syndrome at work- the sheer lack of common sense is absurd.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

I recently picked up a couple core decks to learn how to play Magic.

What's up with them wearing suits when they play?

 

[The Technomancer]

I recently picked up a couple core decks to learn how to play Magic.

What's up with them wearing suits when they play?

Suits?

 

[Haly]

Are you playing magic at a furry meetup ChiTown?

 

[The Technomancer]

Are you playing magic at a furry meetup ChiTown?

I'm trying to figure out if he means sleeves or if people come to play in business suits.

 

[joelseph]

Chitown you want to play with my group in Bucktown?!

 

[kirblar]

I'm trying to figure out if he means sleeves or if people come to play in business suits.

Kibler wears a jacket at tournaments, but otherwise, I'm confused as well.

 

[Zerokku]

Looking for a new casual deck, and trying to decide which I should build first.

W/U/G Slivers -
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=261150

or

W/B/G Treefolk -
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=269043

Which do you guys think I should build first? My casual playgroup has all kinds of decks, and I'm looking for something new to play.

 

[The Technomancer]

Looking for a new casual deck, and trying to decide which I should build first.

W/U/G Slivers -
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=261150

or

W/B/G Treefolk -
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=269043

Which do you guys think I should build first? My casual playgroup has all kinds of decks, and I'm looking for something new to play.

Treefolk. Everyone will hate you if you play Slivers.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Treefolk. Everyone will hate you if you play Slivers.

Ya, even when I lied about using slivers they would forfeit once I played one saying they won't play slivers. Feels bad man.

 

[Zerokku]

Well I'm building both eventually, just which first. It'll probably depend on what old cards I can trade for at FNM this week.

Also, I got really bored today, so I decided to design a random Magic deck.

Decided to go with a theme for this one, so I made a Skyrim themed deck. Not the most efficient deck, but I was trying to play heavily to the theme.

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=271050

Enjoy. Like I said, I was really bored.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Chitown you want to play with my group in Bucktown?!

I need to figure out how to play first. There's 2 dudes where I DM Encounters at Cat & Mouse games that will help.

But yeah, once I get the hang of it I'd totally be down.

 

[Kurtofan]

Third set revealed and it's a large one!(244 cards)

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/864

 

[Haly]

Doesn't look very angelic.

She probably got some of that Sorin lovin'.

 

[Leunam]

WB Angel calling that shit now.

 

[The Technomancer]

There's some interesting speculation on the Wizards boards about how sinister Avacyn seems. Maybe not so much of a savior after all.

 

[OnPoint]

WB angel needs to be better than this

 

[Keru_Shiri]

For those of you who might be interested, StarCity Games will be revoking Bertoncini's prizes.

 

[An-Det]

For those of you who might be interested, StarCity Games will be revoking Bertoncini's prizes.

I just saw that after noticing that my magic twitter list had exploded over the last few minutes. I agree with the move here and going forward, but it sets an unsettling principle for the moment since they are taking the prizes retroactively.

 

[Ravager61]

He should have been banned a while ago. All the head people in the DCI and starcity were aware of his past. You can't backtrack now. He shouldn't have been in the tournament in the first place. Taking away his prizes now is just admitting your own ineptitude.