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Fall 2011 Anime Thread |OT2| The Tampire is Coming

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Steroyd

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I maybe the only one who is fighting the good cause. You should be ashamed for giving up so easily.

Anime has changed. It's no longer about Cowboy Bebop, Tenchi Muyo or Sailormoon. It's an endless series of moe battles fought by Otaku's on the net. Anime - and its consumption of moe - has become a well-oiled machine. Anime has changed. moe characters carry moe phrases and use kawaii desu and nyan. Moe inside the screen poisons yet regulates anime. Moeblob control. Furry control. Loli control. Fanservice control. Everything is moe and kept under control. Anime has changed. The age of moe has become the age of control... All in the name of averting catastrophe from anime being dead. And he who controls the otaku... controls anime. Anime has changed. When the battlefield is under total control... moe becomes routine.
 

wonzo

Banned
Since nobody has posted it yet:

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haha oh shit what anime's this from?
 

Dresden

Member
wonzo said:
haha oh shit what anime's this from?
Hayate the combat butler.

Merry reminderthatsomeoneisdyinghorriblyrightnowinsomepartoftheworldthatyouveneverheardofbutanywaysmerrychristmas, animegaf!

ZxEIF.jpg
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Anime has changed. It's no longer about Cowboy Bebop, Tenchi Muyo or Sailormoon. It's an endless series of moe battles fought by Otaku's on the net. Anime - and its consumption of moe - has become a well-oiled machine. Anime has changed. moe characters carry moe phrases and use kawaii desu and nyan. Moe inside the screen poisons yet regulates anime. Moeblob control. Furry control. Loli control. Fanservice control. Everything is moe and kept under control. Anime has changed. The age of moe has become the age of control... All in the name of averting catastrophe from anime being dead. And he who controls the otaku... controls anime. Anime has changed. When the battlefield is under total control... moe becomes routine.

I'm currently marathoning Sailor Moon but thus far this series can be quantified as significantly moe. It almost feels like the birth of modern Moe.
 

wonzo

Banned
Hayate the combat butler.

Merry reminderthatsomeoneisdyinghorriblyrightnowinsomepartoftheworldthatyouveneve rheardofbutanywaysmerrychristmas, animegaf!

http://i.imgur.com/ZxEIF.jpg[img][/quote]
[quote="firehawk12, post: 33725757"]Hayate the Combat Butler.

No nipples??[/quote]
cheers *adds to watch list*
 

Steroyd

Member

Hold up!

Moe is bound up with visual image (there is an interesting analysis and discussion of this aspect on the Heisei Democracy blog) but not restricted by it. Character and story function are more powerful. The ‘budding’ aspect of the term requires that a character attracting moe should be in an emergent or transitional state, hence younger and less powerful even than the one the audience identifies with. The character’s potential is undefined, although hints of some past mystery, enormous potential power or talent are often present. But whatever gifts the beautiful infant may possess, its entire life will be defined and determined by its relationships, and its protective father or big brother, though quite possibly insignificant in every other way, will thus be the central figure in its story.

That sounds like every shounen protagonist ever.

I refuse to call Luffy moe, I refuse.
 

Jex

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My favourite part is:
Young men who choose to cut themselves off from mainstream society, whose main areas of activity and interest are the carefully crafted, controllable worlds of entertainment, seem to be strongly drawn to these artificial dream-babies. They buy in to a powerful fantasy of acceptance and adoration by a perpetually dependent, unchangingly adorable, sexually undemanding creature whose world will forever revolve around them.
It paints quite the picture, doesn't it?
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
I might not enjoy reading anthropological insect porn science fiction like you do, but I enjoy reading.
I do not think this word means what you think it means.

Unless dresden is holding out on me with the insect porn.
 

Lafiel

と呼ぶがよい
The Idolm@ster 24-25 - What a great show, truly lived up to the crazy hype I gave it pre-summer season, I can't wait for the inevitable season 2.^_^
 
That intent was strange. And talking about this, some days ago I saw a report on NHK WORLD that presented facts about this project and the resurrection of the interest for toy companies in financing completely new animated shows.

Apparently, BANPRESTO not only put the 100% of the budget, but also various particular premises to take better advantage of the product (although at first they said to them "do what you like"), like "how many characters would be in it" or "what particular traits each character would have" and similar things that Toei Animation and Rie Matsumoto had to abide. The funny thing was when they mentioned the playful bickering between them, with anecdotes like "we in BANPRESTO wanted the protagonist to have an over-sized weapon, but when they presented us the design and we saw that this weapon was transparent with differently sized balls inside, we were thinking how exactly we were going to manufacture cheaply such a thing for a simple capsule toy" and many others. In the end, they said they liked the experience in collaborating with each other, though.

Of course, they planned exhaustively what type of product to make and what demographics appeal to; "Late-teens-to-mid-20's on both genders" was mentioned, based in their statistics on majority of users from their bpnavi.jp platform (that has 2 million users approx.), and this was why they used primarily a video streaming method of immediate distribution for it.

The most interesting things said is that, according to BANPRESTO's Shigeru Hirata, their biggest desire is to make either a series or a movie, they want to do it for sure, but they'll have to wait and see the reception for this project before. And that they are also waiting for more works to be made this way. Time will tell!
Thanks for the info. Knowing that its creation was this marketing-driven explains not only why Banpresto's logo showed up so prominently and randomly, but also why the short felt cobbled together in general. I appreciate that toy companies are supporting creativity in this manner, but I hope that if they do expand on Kyousogiga down the line, they don't obsess so much over opportunities to sell toys that they fail to present its world in a coherent fashion.
 

Jex

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[5 Centimetres Per Second]

This is may have been my first outing with a Makoto Shinkai but I basically knew what I was getting myself into. Regardless of any arguments about this particular style of story it's pretty easy to see that Shinkai is a skilled director with a strong understanding of visual storytelling. He seems to be one of the few directors to actively use camera effects like: blur, pulling focus and depth of field appropriately.

He also has an interesting ability to construct a 'hyper real' world where even dull, boring locations are made to look beautiful and to make beautiful locations appear outstanding, a lot of this can be attributed to the lighting and use of colour. I'd post some pictures, but I believe you're all familiar with the style.

At present, I don't really care for the way the movie ends. It didn't have quite the strength or substance of the way the second 'episode' concluded, which meant the movie as a whole had an odd emotional structure for me.

I couldn't really get to grips with the protagonist, which might be where the problems arise.
I understand that he's spent his life pining for this girl, but whenever we see him he seems oddly detached from everyone around him, which may well be the point. But still, he seems to have been interested in people in the past and has had an off-screen relationship, but apart from that I can't even picture him sitting down with friends to watch a movie. He's just busy brooding somewhere.

In the end we see him smile, presumably suggesting that he's moved on from his obsession. I can't really say that I'm convinced about that, but as the movie is 60 minutes long there's not really any time for covering any more ground.

Also, the modern world has pretty much ruined these particular romantic moments and expressions. Everyone has mobile phones and email, so charming things such as letters and being completely separated from another person are now fairly uncommon.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Also, the modern world has pretty much ruined these particular romantic moments and expressions. Everyone has mobile phones and email, so charming things such as letters and being completely separated from another person are now fairly uncommon.
He solved this in Voices, actually.

But yeah. Communication technology has thus far ruined:

1) Romance
2) Horror
 
[5 Centimetres Per Second]

This is may have been my first outing with a Makoto Shinkai but I basically knew what I was getting myself into. Regardless of any arguments about this particular style of story it's pretty easy to see that Shinkai is a skilled director with a strong understanding of visual storytelling. He seems to be one of the few directors to actively use camera effects like: blur, pulling focus and depth of field appropriately.

5 Centimeters might be better on this score, but Voices and Place Promised didn't convince me that Shinkai actually is a skilled director. He unquestionably has a great eye for visual beauty, and makes every single shot of his atmospheric, like a painting. His visuals don't feel well connected with the stories he's trying to tell, however. They are overpowering to the extent where I lose sight of the characters and dialogue and events; I feel disconnected from them all and wish everyone would just shut up so I can stare at the clouds. If Shinkai wants to tell a story, he needs someone to reign his and direct his obsessions so that his beauty can serve the storytelling.
 

Jex

Member
He solved this in Voices, actually.

But yeah. Communication technology has thus far ruined:

1) Romance
2) Horror

I guess Horror gets off marginally better because they can pull the whole 'phone ran out of battery/out of range' trick in the heat of some tense scene.

Shinkai was clearly born in the wrong century. He'd be right at home with 19th Century romance.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
I guess Horror gets off marginally better because they can pull the whole 'phone ran out of battery/out of range' trick in the heat of some tense scene.
Sooooooooo terrible.
Shinkai was clearly born in the wrong century. He'd be right at home with 19th Century romance.
To be fair when he was a kid there was no youtube or twitter or whatever!

He's drawing inspiration from a more beautiful age.
 

Uchip

Banned
5 Centimeters might be better on this score, but Voices and Place Promised didn't convince me that Shinkai actually is a skilled director. He unquestionably has a great eye for visual beauty, and makes every single shot of his atmospheric, like a painting. His visuals don't feel well connected with the stories he's trying to tell, however. They are overpowering to the extent where I lose sight of the characters and dialogue and events; I feel disconnected from them all and wish everyone would just shut up so I can stare at the clouds. If Shinkai wants to tell a story, he needs someone to reign his and direct his obsessions so that his beauty can serve the storytelling.

well
wouldnt the praise go to his team that is drawing this shit?
 
I guess Horror gets off marginally better because they can pull the whole 'phone ran out of battery/out of range' trick in the heat of some tense scene.

Or you can just pull people into an alternate dimension where their cells don't function normally anymore.

well
wouldnt the praise go to his team that is drawing this shit?

Voices at least was basically a one-man project, so that "team" would have been Shinkai himself.
 

RurouniZel

Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Ben-To Finale:

And with this, my show of the season comes to an end. :( There is fighting, and there is virtually no Shiraume. Win win for me. ^_^ Episode has a little of everything, I've no complaints. ^^
 

Branduil

Member
[5 Centimetres Per Second]

This is may have been my first outing with a Makoto Shinkai but I basically knew what I was getting myself into. Regardless of any arguments about this particular style of story it's pretty easy to see that Shinkai is a skilled director with a strong understanding of visual storytelling. He seems to be one of the few directors to actively use camera effects like: blur, pulling focus and depth of field appropriately.

He also has an interesting ability to construct a 'hyper real' world where even dull, boring locations are made to look beautiful and to make beautiful locations appear outstanding, a lot of this can be attributed to the lighting and use of colour. I'd post some pictures, but I believe you're all familiar with the style.

At present, I don't really care for the way the movie ends. It didn't have quite the strength or substance of the way the second 'episode' concluded, which meant the movie as a whole had an odd emotional structure for me.

I couldn't really get to grips with the protagonist, which might be where the problems arise.
I understand that he's spent his life pining for this girl, but whenever we see him he seems oddly detached from everyone around him, which may well be the point. But still, he seems to have been interested in people in the past and has had an off-screen relationship, but apart from that I can't even picture him sitting down with friends to watch a movie. He's just busy brooding somewhere.

In the end we see him smile, presumably suggesting that he's moved on from his obsession. I can't really say that I'm convinced about that, but as the movie is 60 minutes long there's not really any time for covering any more ground.

Also, the modern world has pretty much ruined these particular romantic moments and expressions. Everyone has mobile phones and email, so charming things such as letters and being completely separated from another person are now fairly uncommon.

I thought you had seen this before? Regardless, I think it's worth it to watch his previous two films. They are a bit stronger narratively, though not without problems. And they both have dem clouds of course.
 

trejo

Member
I thought you had seen this before? Regardless, I think it's worth it to watch his previous two films. They are a bit stronger narratively, though not without problems. And they both have dem clouds of course.

Actually, I wouldn't hold it against him if he were to skip Place but Voices is a must.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
It has not one but two broody protagonists.

One of them plays the violin while brooding and then reminisces about his chilldhood sweetheart playing the violin.

That's some pretty hardcore brooding.
 

Branduil

Member
It has not one but two broody protagonists.

One of them plays the violin while brooding and then reminisces about his chilldhood sweetheart playing the violin.

That's some pretty hardcore brooding.

Well that's true. But dem clouds. And some neat sci-fi stuff.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Hey I never said it wasn't good.

Protagonists who brood over unrequited love are the BEST.
 

Articalys

Member
Not everyone in anime and manga is celebrating Christmas on their own. Zero no Tsukaima author Noboru Yamaguchi had to stay in the hospital through Christmas Eve after his surgery to remove a tumor, and he had reported hair loss from the treatment earlier. Nevertheless, he added on Twitter that his girlfriend visited him and gave him a Christmas present (a cardigan sweater).

After many sites posted articles about Yamaguchi's Christmas Eve message, Yamaguchi asked why the sites focused their coverage on just the fact that he has a girlfriend at all.
Heh.

Also, gonna briefly switch avatars for Shinkai support.
 
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