PSM: PS4 specs more powerful than Xbox 720

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I believe it.

When developer's actually know what they're doing with the PS3's hardware we end up with gorgeous exclusives and marvelous 3rd party games.

Killzone 2 is still one of the best looking games this gen ...

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Certainly living upto the Soilder part of your name.
 
oh PSM, it really helped the PS3 that it was more powerful than the 360 huh.....

The Wii laughed at both systems all the way to the bank
 
I'm really glad MS and Sony are trying hard to one-up each other again, despite the economy and the Wii success story.
Things are looking grim for Nintendo die-hards when it comes to third-parties.

I see where you're going with this, but wouldn't it be a lot better for Wii U to fail? Nintendo goes third-party, develops for PS4... everyone wins.

Did I?
It's going to be Modern Warfare Reflex all over again. Calling it now.

If "Wii U version, lol" doesn't become a meme within a year of the launch of the first Unsustainable Twin, I'll let you pick an avatar for me. How's that?

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More powerful eh... I hope the development fee is feasible this time around.


Ah you just reminded me of another step in the console cycle. The part where Sony promises that this machine really really truly honestly will be easier for game companies to work on this time.
 
oh PSM, it really helped the PS3 that it was more powerful than the 360 huh.....

The Wii laughed at both systems all the way to the bank

It worked out pretty damn well for gamers. I'm not sure why any gamer would be against a really powerful system, especially since Sony has learned their lesson with pricing. The PS4 isn't going to be another $500-600 console.
 
It worked out pretty damn well for gamers. I'm not sure why any gamer would be against a really powerful system, especially since Sony has learned their lesson with pricing. The PS4 isn't going to be another $500-600 console.

Wasn't the reason it was $600 was because of the Blu-Ray drive? If I remember correctly, the PS3 was already "cheap" for a Blu-Ray drive at that time (another forum says a Blu-Ray player costed around $999 back in 2006).
 
Pretty much.

But i'm liking the direction this thread has taken.

That's why I've learned to not respond to him lest to have a bit of fun before moving on; there is no point.

Was told by a mod to report him next time he goes on a harassing spree against me in multiple topics, and not to insult/troll myself, but eh, too much work for something not that serious. ;)

@AngelSoldier, I just remember you posting similar posts in the thread you eventually got banned in, don't know why you're so defensive about agreeing/disagreeing with your opinion because I never mentioned anything of the sort.
 
Wasn't the reason it was $600 was because of the Blu-Ray drive? If I remember correctly, the PS3 was already "cheap" for a Blu-Ray drive at that time (another forum says a Blu-Ray player costed around $999 back in 2006).

Yeah, it was the cheapest Blu-ray player at the time. It was also viewed as being the best BR player on the market (I believe that actually lasted for several years after it was released). That obviously won't be an issue with the PS4. $400 is really the ceiling for console prices, and I really wouldn't be surprised if all 3 launched at that price.
 
That's why I've learned to not respond to him lest to have a bit of fun before moving on; there is no point.

Was told by a mod to report him next time he goes on a harassing spree against me in multiple topics, and not to insult/troll myself, but eh, too much work for something not that serious. ;)

@AngelSoldier, I just remember you posting similar posts in the thread you eventually got banned in, don't know why you're so defensive about agreeing/disagreeing with your opinion because I never mentioned anything of the sort.

Not just you, but others as well. In typical GAF internet style some of you are quick to call out other's, post "witty" one-liner's and all kinds of other happy horse shit ... But when it comes time to lay down some facts, or even attempt to prove a point, you disappear, go quiet, or post some long convoluted BS in attempt to make your selves look better.

Ah wells, the proof is in the games.
 
I believe it.

When developer's actually know what they're doing with the PS3's hardware we end up with gorgeous exclusives and marvelous 3rd party games.

Killzone 2 is still one of the best looking games this gen ...

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BlurZone 2, you mean? I much prefer Killzone 3's look, best looking console shooter this gen. And yeah, I played Crysis 2 on the 360 and its even more blurred than Kz2. IGN are lying.
 
BlurZone 2, you mean? I much prefer Killzone 3's look, best looking console shooter this gen. And yeah, I played Crysis 2 on the 360 and its even more blurred than Kz2. IGN are lying.

KZ3 is beautiful as well. But my point was that an OLD PS3 exclusive can still compete with modern games graphics.
 
It will be way more powerful and a gooder system overall. Separate gpus for 2D and 3D graphics and two dual core processors-- one 32 bit and the other 64 bit making it the world's first 192-bit system. It will have 768MB of HD ram.
 
I really hope Sony doesn't try to reinvent the wheel. In '05 they stated that research for the Cell will cut the R and D for PS4,5,6. If they wanted they could have a 36 core Cell at minimal cost due to research on the Cell in '05. Pipedream, I know. But this could explain PSM's comment. Someone needs to push technology and with this plan, maybe next gen will be Sony's big break. Shit, when I look at it the only "next gen" experiences i've got was from the PS3 exclusives.
 
I really hope Sony doesn't try to reinvent the wheel. In '05 they stated that research for the Cell will cut the R and D for PS4,5,6. If they wanted they could have a 36 core Cell at minimal cost due to research on the Cell in '05. Pipedream, I know. But this could explain PSM's comment. Someone needs to push technology and with this plan, maybe next gen will be Sony's big break. Shit, when I look at it the only "next gen" experiences i've got was from the PS3 exclusives.

I feel the same way.
 
Doesn't really mean much if the difference is like it was this gen (and 99% of games look about the same). But if it's like it was last gen then that would be pretty big. Xbox 1 was a monster compared to PS2.
 
Doesn't really mean much if the difference is like it was this gen (and 99% of games look about the same). But if it's like it was last gen then that would be pretty big. Xbox 1 was a monster compared to PS2.

Yeah, if one chose to buy muti-platform games, they would feel the same way. Man Uncharted 2 was one of a kind that everyone followed, y'know, with the whole contextural animations and setpieces. Or heavy use of post process effects. Or just pretty graphics in general. No one would give a shit about graphics if it weren't for "those" exclusives.
 
I'm sure one system next generation will be more powerful than the other: be it PS4 or XBOX 720. What I'm more curious of is how big the jump from average game this generation to average game next gen will be. I'm hoping we see some really impressive stuff.

At the end of the day graphics matter little in comparison to gameplay.
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Seriously, I get your blur point. But here we have KZ2 Vs. MW3. Looks like KZ2 is still holding it's own to me.
Based on the two pictures you showed, MW3 is the better looking game. But I do agree with your original point in that KZ2 is still one of the best looking games. I love the gun models and the lighting. KZ2 is still one of my favorite shooters from this gen.
 
Oh goody, the thread is already bearing fruit. GIFs next, please.

I just hope enough true believers survive till the show begins. I'd hate to actually see things go down without their commentary. People are getting to excited a burning out before they've had their chance to shine :(
...kind of like a baby snake not being able to control it's venom when biting into it's first penis
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Where are we allowed to host images now? There's nothing in the TOS about which ones are banned.
 
They can't. Why are we even debating all this?

Oh and there WON'T be a Cell in the PS4... Cell is dead. Expect a carbon copy on the next 360.
nah, the type of cell in the ps3 is still alive. There was a thread about it. The research and support for the cell inside the ps3 is still going and what not, they just stopped everything else. idk the nitty gritty details.
 
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