Wii U Spotted At CES
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I honestly don't mind the look of the controller at all. Sure they could've maybe gone with an iPhone-size screen and thus a smaller controller, and that LCD screen does look ancient compared to today's tablets, but I think we should've known Nintendo wouldn't latch onto the newest expensive technology for their innovations.
Their policy has always been to take cheap, mature tech and re-utilize it for gaming. Also, I know we've been going through this since E3, but this idea probably makes more sense for traditional game development than motion control does.
Their policy has always been to take cheap, mature tech and re-utilize it for gaming. Also, I know we've been going through this since E3, but this idea probably makes more sense for traditional game development than motion control does.
Yeah, but looking back at the original one they showed, it looks kinda garish by comparison. The rectangular power button, the middle row buttons, and B trigger. The nunchuck too is much sleeker than at the first reveal.
I think MS is changing '720' to 'Smart' as we speak.
Loved the unveiling and loved it when I got my hands on it. It wasn't backwards.
Do you really think sliders are in any way forward progress like the N64 controller? They suck compared to sticks. And since you're not shoving that thing in your pocket, it's moronic to sacrifice functionality for aesthetics. Especially when the thing looks like crap anyway.
Console is boring as hell, but it will fit neatly under my TV or pretty much wherever I want it, so I don't really care.
The controller... well, I like the idea, I've been thinking of some fun ways to utilize it for traditional genres (it should work like a dream for squad control in team-based FPS), it just looks too plasticky. I don't even mean the materieal used, but the of plastic-to-screen ratio is just off, they should make it slimmer.
But most importantly: please, for the love of god, change the slide pads to traditional analog nubs. I'll pay more. Just give me the option.
I'm definitely getting one, probably half a year after lunch.
The controller... well, I like the idea, I've been thinking of some fun ways to utilize it for traditional genres (it should work like a dream for squad control in team-based FPS), it just looks too plasticky. I don't even mean the materieal used, but the of plastic-to-screen ratio is just off, they should make it slimmer.
But most importantly: please, for the love of god, change the slide pads to traditional analog nubs. I'll pay more. Just give me the option.
I'm definitely getting one, probably half a year after lunch.
What if the controller's form-factor makes sticks uncomfortable or difficult to use?
radioheadrule83
Banned
He's right though, isn't he? Good luck getting a capacitive stylus that's more accurate than a modern resistive / stylus combo. They exist, they're just not very good.
I'm not sure accuracy is more important than comfort / pleasure though, and people definitely prefer the tactile sensation of swiping a finger or tapping as opposed to scrolling with a pen, tapping with a stylus or applying the necessary 'poke' for a resistive screen button press.
I'm kind of wondering whether Nintendo would need a patent trove in order to do a lot of the things expected of a capacitive touchscreen -- all the big mobile players seem to have one, and spend a stupid amount of time and money fighting each other with them...
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Obviously it the best choice, better cut cost on that useless and expensive controller gimmick so they can put a bit more of juice in the hardware that really matters.
Father_Brain
Banned
Yeah, but E3 was a looooong time ago. AFAIK, there haven't even been behind-closed-doors E3-redux demos for European or Japanese press, which is odd.
Doubly so because the tablet has angered people who do like the Wiimote.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Jesus couldn't they have designed it to look better?
Something the size of a PSP or maybe with smaller top/bottom bezels... eurgh.
Will buy anyways lol.
Something the size of a PSP or maybe with smaller top/bottom bezels... eurgh.
Will buy anyways lol.
BruiserBear
Banned
That controller really does look huge.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Interesting. Hopefully they have real games to show and more details. I really am kind of interested in what Nintendo is doing this gen.
If nothing else, it'll be like a slightly less comfortable normal gamepad with an interface massively better for item management. That alone makes it better for gameplay than the Wii.
The fact that Super Mario Galaxy looks far better than most 360/PS3 games put me squarely in the "Who gives a shit about graphics?" camp.
It will be outdated Day 1 by the PC.
Q
qizah
Unconfirmed Member
-slidepads instead of normal analogs
-ackward positioning of ABXY buttons
-resistive touch screen
-xbox HUGE
why, fucking why? Why can't it be more like this:
Why, why, oh why?
It is that already ... It just has a screen on it.
I really don't get the complaints about the controller -- especially before actually using the thing. Do you get tired of holding a tablet in your hand for a long period of time too?
It really is. This is probably what GameGAQs looked like in 2005.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Wii U could be the best selling console of all time, I don't care, I didn't say it would sell or that it wouldn't.
But the success of the device won't change my initial impression of the controller, neither the success of the Wii changed my view of the console.
Not saying resistive is a better choice or not than a capacitive touchscreen, but you can do all that too on a resistive touchscreen/Wii U controller/3DS with your finger, except pinch to zoom etc.
Are they bringing the lamp addon back maybe?
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu--- you just made me travel back in time
It's not even close to as nice to do that with though, at least if the DSs have been anything to base it on.
My 3DS screen seems much more responsive than my DS lite screen. I can scroll and swipe through lists of icons easily with just my thumb or fingers, which is what I do use most of the time. Also unlike the DS lite screen I'm not pressing noticeably harder than I would with a capacitive screen, just a slight press.
It's a bit hard to do though, and more often than not I just end up using my finger nail to do it.
OK, I guess another advantage for resistive is to discourage you from touching the screen with your fingers making it look disgusting. It was always nice seeing my DS/DSi/3DS screens nice and clean, whereas I have to wipe my phone frequently.
Precision/Accuracy + Cleanliness + Cheaper looks a bit more acceptable now. Nintendo knows how to innovate their controllers, so we probably should not worry.
Precision/Accuracy + Cleanliness + Cheaper looks a bit more acceptable now. Nintendo knows how to innovate their controllers, so we probably should not worry.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
MEGATONZ!
WOW, Wii U controller LCD only capable of showing 256 colors.
Pre-order cancelled, DOOMED, etc....
I think the screen is meant to be touched with your fingers, or do you think it would be confortable having that controller in your hands alongside a giant stylus?
If it's anything at all like the 3DS' lower screen, that shouldn't be necessary.
MEGATONZ!
...and you also can play this 640 by 480 trailer of a game you will never play.
TheCongressman1
Member
Also, the fact that I've been playing games on my CRT for longer than I can remember. Although, I am very excited about the amount of power they'll have for bigger/more complex maps, better lighting, etc. That's something I can get behind, but as far as HD goes, I couldn't care less.
MisterHero
Super Member
lame, the plastic isn't framing the GTA screen correctly
lazy nintendo
lazy nintendo
You seriously want the WiiU to fall into that PS3 territory where only a handful of developers can get it to really shine? SMG and Zelda always look good, but thats usually it. I'm tired of giving Nintendo a pass on this crap.
Yeah, did something change with the 3DS touchscreen, because it works really well with your finger (not nails), maybe it also depends on the game.
Lupin the Third
Member
Can't speak for them, but here was GAF's reaction:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63251
It's Nintendo's fault 3rd parties won't spend lots of money on the best selling system?
AceBandage
Banned
Yes, it's a much better screen in many aspects from the DS screens.
Miyamoto and Iwata talked about it one of the Iwata Asks.
Zoramon089
Banned
If swiping and tapping are hard to do I'd say that's more a problem with your touch screen than resistive touch screens in general...
Anyway resistive + stylus > capacitive (in any capacity) in terms of accuracy. I can't believe people are still arguing against this
A resting thumb is a resting thumb. If the controller ergonomics are comfortable for a slider, they're comfortable for a stick.
Can you really come up with any design where raising your thumb an additional 1/4 inch is going to be a deal breaker for comfort?
I'm pretty sure it's not about aesthetics, but the service life of the sticks. They really don't want to put people in the position of having to buy a replacement pad controller halfway through the generation.
Except they're not. A resting thumb on a curved surface like a handle is different from one resting on a flat surface like a tablet.
DISCLAIMER: I like sliders. The feel of the resistance just sits well with me for whatever reason.
The main limiting factor is that UI elements in most 3DS games are designed with a stylus in mind, which means smaller buttons thus more room for error when using your finger.
Hopefully the UI for WiiU-screen stuff will be more accommodating to fingers in that regard.
CharliePants
Member
Do you really think Nintendo would go with slide pads if they didn't think they were a better fit than traditional sticks?
If you're right, and the slide pads do "suck compared to sticks" then I'm sure that'll be recognized and they'll be replaced/fixed before release.
I'll hold off on passing judgement on a controller designed by Nintendo, at least until I use it myself. They've done it before, believe it or not - and they do it well.
I was thinking more of a 3DS type of [retractable] stylus that goes inside the uPad.