I took that line to mean she didn't even know which team bet the Texans, just that they lost, lol.
Why I'm Making My Husband Miss The Super Bowl
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I took that line to mean she didn't even know which team bet the Texans, just that they lost, lol.
The whole point of the superbowl is live viewing. Not exactly an easily reversible comparison.
Im more bothered by her tone than anything. I knew this would be a problem so I am guilt tripping him shit. Someone mentioned it already, but this is why people get divorced. They eventually realize they don't want to put up with shit like that for 20 plus years and they gtfo. Even the first point, of not delaying the marriage dispute your husband having a profession that demands he may be on the field sometimes. Of all the damn days of the year this really was an unmovable date.
It seems her tone is: I am your wife and anything that I say is less important than our relationship shall be so.
ThisWreckage
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Marriage is the triumph of imagination over intelligence. In this case, neither party has either of those things.
First of all, this country is way too involved in sports worship and celebrity worship. I'm going to watch the Super Bowl and I play fantasy football, but I maybe watch two or three football games a year. That still doesn't change the fact that they could have completely avoided this by moving the wedding up a week or down a week. Simple solution, right? Well no, because the article she wrote makes her seem like a totally unlikeable person that gets off on withholding things.
First of all, this country is way too involved in sports worship and celebrity worship. I'm going to watch the Super Bowl and I play fantasy football, but I maybe watch two or three football games a year. That still doesn't change the fact that they could have completely avoided this by moving the wedding up a week or down a week. Simple solution, right? Well no, because the article she wrote makes her seem like a totally unlikeable person that gets off on withholding things.
I was legitimately shocked to see how many people in the MLB/NFL/NHL/etc. threads actually felt that sports were meaningful and important activities.
I don't mean you can't enjoy them, mind you; I enjoy baseball personally, for example. I just fully recognize that it is ultimately trivial and silly, no different than a person who enjoys shoe shopping or going to romantic comedy films.
Very few people seemed to agree with that and instead argued that sports are genuinely meaningful. I supposed I thought GAF was above such silliness, but clearly I was wrong. Many GAF members correctly understand that video games are trivial as well, for example, but I suppose there are likely more members who think games are genuinely meaningful than I anticipate, too.
yankeeforever2
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All of you are just mad your team didn't make the superbowl.
Giants!
Giants!
BronzeWolf
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It's not about the superbowl
Isn't the whole point of an anniversary that it is on your anniversary?
I agree, her tone is definitely part of the issue. It suggests a particular approach and mindset that isn't necessarily specifically explicated.
Something Wicked
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How dare you dismiss the sacred wisdom of the great Gwyneth Paltrow!
Also, screw all of you, who are saying this game in particular will suck. It's not like it'll be the Steelers taking on the baby Seahawks or dumpy Cardinals... or having to sit through a snoozefest of a Bucs vs Raiders game. You should apologize to your Grace- Lord Brady may forgive you.
Bam Bam Baklava
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This is crazy everybody celebrates the Superbowl these days. That's why people throw Superbowl parties, so wives and husbands all celebrate. Instead she wants to go out by themselves to someplace I'm sure is gonna be empty and lifeless on a day like today. Also, all hail Gwyneth Paltrow's sacred doctrines.
Aesius
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You sound like a blast to hang out with.
brucewaynegretzky
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I think you underestimate the role sports play in a lot of people's lives. The largest percentage of time I've likely spent with my dad was time driving to a million different hockey rinks growing up. Hours on top of hours just talking hockey.
On top of that sports teach important lessons while growing up. I know everyone likes to say you can learn "teamwork" in lots of different scenarios, but in sports there's an added element: If my teammate puts a pass too far ahead of me and I get laid out I legitimately get hurt. You are putting way more trust in a group of people to protect your well being at a very young age.
So yea, I think sports are important. Obviously there are more important things in life than watching a game, but I'm always amazed at people who can't "get" sports. It's not like other "hobbies" like games in a lot of very important ways. Games can create friendships etc., but the way you put your body on the line for others in sports and push your body to its limits is really unique, and yes important, to sports.
ThisWreckage
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The title of the article completely rubs me the wrong way. Way to establish a tone.
Wow that marriage is doomed.
My wife an I have been married three years and we've never once celebrated our anniversery ON the actual day, because there was always something in our way. Instead we just celebrated whenever we were able around that time.
The specific day doesn't matter!
My wife an I have been married three years and we've never once celebrated our anniversery ON the actual day, because there was always something in our way. Instead we just celebrated whenever we were able around that time.
The specific day doesn't matter!
O yeah and this entire message board isn't a testament to people taking a hobby "waaay too seriously." ::
Implying that bengraven doesn't find video game meltdowns to be similarly excessive is not necessarily justified.
thekillingjoker
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My friends birthday is today. She threw her party last night. The compromise of him getting to go to the bar and still watch seems perfectly logical.
You can't just casually trivialize anyone's hobby or pastime, one that they've enjoyed for a significant portion of their life and formed many bonds/relationships through, and expect them not to get pissy about it.
I don't understand the whole 'its all meaningless' angle either. If it means something to them, then its meaningful.
This.
article in OP said:
Seriously? Was every other weekend in January or February also a busy traveling weekend?
But there are also many ways to celebrate an anniversary. It doesn't have to be scheduled dinner purposefully right in the middle of the game (specifically noted as done on purpose). Where as superbowl viewing must be done during the time of the superbowl. Why not anniversary lunch or breakfast. One of these events is infinitely more flexible, but the parties need to be flexible.
More importantly, they should want to be flexible. And not revel in the joy of forcing your partner to do something that seems trivial to her, but obviously important to him (proven by his shock that his wedding was on the superbowl), and then announce it to the world as if some major victory has been won
Because an anniversary lasts 24 hours and she's intentionally scheduling the celebration during the 3 hours of that that contains an event important to him.
Cerebral Assassin
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I think you underestimate the power of sport, it transcends the "game" aspect & becomes something tribal(admittedly not valid in this articles case), & for a lot of developing countries becomes a huge source of pride.
yankeeforever2
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Yeah a Celebration should work around both people's schedule.
He even has an excuse since his job is fucking sports, its like a news journalist taking the day off to celebrate his anniversary on election day.
Also, there is no compromise here, could of went out last night would of been compromise.
I have plenty of friends, if that's the implication. If you're a puerile person, then we probably would not get along very well, I agree.
brucewaynegretzky said:
It's important to note that there is nothing about this behavior that is particular to any sport, or to sports at all. If I, for example, was particularly in to wood working and spent years obsessing over carpentry as a child, and went to many woodworking seminars with my father, that would provide the exact same benefits.
This is important because it shows that it isn't sports which accomplish the goals you're describing here; rather, any activity of any kind could illicit these benefits. It's the benefits themselves which are meaningful.
Yes, playing sports and watching sports are definitely different things. Exercise and discipline are much closer to objectively valuable qualities, and aren't easily emulated by many other activities. Watching sports, however, does not garner any of these benefits.
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Meaning isn't an objective definable value like mass or temperature. Its completely abstract, and what is and isn't meaningful is unique to every individual in existence.
You seem like an extremely level-headed guy. Personally for me, growing up in New England sports was our religion. More than Catholicism, every baseball/hockey and football game (even though the Pats were so incredibly bad) was an event.
People put a ton of stock in sports. It brings people together and causes them to go crazy.
You have to understand, the word fan means that these people, myself included, are not going to think rationally. I have been a fan of Boston area sports teams for the last 25 years. Just as long as I've been a fan of video games. These days I don't change my life around sports but I do plan to hang out with people based on it. And I don't see anything wrong with that.
You're on a video games forum, fanatics are a nature of the beast. Part of the fun in watching sports is being completely irrational and rooting for a team despite how bad or evil they may be. Especially when other parts of your life aren't great.
You come off a bit holier than thou here and really that's fine. But if you've never cheered with a thousand other college kids while screaming for your team I don't think you have enough perspective. At least not enough perspective to judge. I feel sorry for you bro, it's an amazing feeling.
freenudemacusers
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Sure, but lame generalizations cut both directions.
Then this guy was a damn fool to ever marry her in the first place.
Why do you need other people to celebrate your anniversary?
BlueTsunami
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She probably reads the shit rag Cosmo. I bet they had an article at some point entitled "How to mess up your husbands Super Bowl Sunday and make him feel bad about it!"
There doesn't have to be some greater purpose behind everything you do. Especially when it comes to competition or just having fun.
This post is meaningless.
But I'm glad you made it. :3
This post is meaningless.
But I'm glad you made it. :3
brucewaynegretzky
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On the first part sure, but you're ignoring the cultural setup which encourages sports as one of the most prominent forms of developing these bonds.
You're ignoring the connection between watching sports after having grown up playing them. I can't get out to play competitively anymore, but watching the sport is still VERY important to me for that very reason. It's about staying part of the community and being able to get some of the feeling that playing used to give. To me that is "important."
I've spent an enormous amount of time playing games -- not to mention engaging in this site -- and fully recognize that games are silly and objectively meaningless. I'm not quite sure why others can't say the same, but clearly they can't. Can you explain why not? That's an honest question.
We can take one of two paths here:
1) Anything that anyone cares about is meaningful, because it means something to them. In that case, literally everything in the world is meaningful, because there are very few things that literally no one is interested in. At least one person is interested in virtually every niche one could imagine.
2) Things only have meaning when their meaning can be objectively measured. For example, a cure for Polio works and functions whether you happen to find medicine boring or not. Gravity works whether you listened to your Physics teacher or not. Computers function whether you happen to find electrical engineering entertaining or not, and so forth. By contrast, many things, like shoe fashion, hold no such objective value. As soon as people stop caring about shoe fashion, then poof, it no longer matters or has meaning. As soon as you leave the United States, poof, American Rules Football seems to suddenly become completely uninteresting to virtually everyone, and so forth.
I would argue the latter definition provides significantly more value. The former definition is absolutely ineffective; if everything is "meaningful," then saying something is "meaningful" holds no value. Of course it's meaningful -- everything is meaningful, by our definition!
That's not different from his woodworking/carpentry example at all.
NervousXtian
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My wife and I would have celebrated on Saturday night.. no work the next morning, could have more fun.
..that leaves open the game to enjoy on Sunday.
Win.. win.. win.
..that leaves open the game to enjoy on Sunday.
Win.. win.. win.
njean777
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Have played many sports in my life League Football, Baseball, Soccer and still could not give a shit less about watching a sports game. It is not fun, and it is supremely boring. Now I would gladly play a pick up game of basketball, football, soccer and have a lot of fun, but watching grown men get millions to play a game is not good entertainment imo.
Not saying that I hate people that watch sports at all btw, if you like it then you like it, but was just saying that just because you have played sports does not instantly mean you will like to watch them.
I would disagree here. Sports actually brings people together oddly enough. It's like a less (or perhaps more) of nationalism. I went to USC, and they really push the identity of being a "Trojan" to make the school feel united. But really, it's the sports program that does it in the most meaningful way, as each game is essentially war with the opposition that must be defeated! Years after graduation people still feel a link to the school and alumni due to this.
Other activities can bring people together in this way, but I'd need to hear what you may think is as effective. You can feel the unity at the stadium at any game you go too, and even while watching the game with friends.
brucewaynegretzky
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Woodworking hasn't been culturally adopted to create widespread community activities like sports has. That's a significant difference as well. In a sense "Everyone else is doing it" isn't entirely irrelevant. She's making him sit out a major event.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Gaming is different than sports. If this was playing in a pick-up basketball game with his boys, then yeah.. reschedule for the Anniversary.
Yet, watching the NFL (or other sports) are an event. They are a set time. You can't really put it off (yeah, you can DVR, but that's lame for live events).
It's a false equivalent due to the nature of set events.
I could play games any time I want, yet the Super Bowl is a set time once a year. If I had the ability to choose the time they played, it'd be the same.. yet I'm not Roger Goddell.
Your opinion is trivial and meaningless.
Absolutely, but those are functions of a particular culture. They aren't inherent properties of sports. Our culture also happens to encourage women to form bonds while shopping for clothes, but I hope we can agree that this doesn't actually infuse clothes shopping with real and inherent meaning.
Again, I'm not sure why the same couldn't be said of woodworking, for example. I did it myself when I was a child; now I like to read about it and watch it as an adult. Is that different?
For some people, scheduled MMO raids are way more important than the Super Bowl. Would you consider them idiots for being pissy about an anniversary dinner that conflicted with one? I sure as hell would.
cuevas. PhD.
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It's not that sports fans think they are meaningful or important; the games are just meaningful and important to us. We know the world won't end if our team loses, even though sometimes it may come off like that in some posts.
A sports fan can be passionate about their teams though. Your post is presumptuous -- as if you are above being passionate about "trivial and silly" things.
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