LordPhoque
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I find it sort of hilarious that some people still think it's ever gonna be released
Final Fantasy Versus XIII was announced in 2006. It is now 2012. These are facts.
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Combichristoffersen
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At this point in time it'll end up being cancelled or moved to PS4/720/WiiU
The Praiseworthy
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Oh god with the jokes...
The game is going to be released when it's ready in a year ( I say this Dec in JP and Q1 2013 in NA / EU )... They just let us know about the game very very early which was a mistake.
I rather have a solid polished game than a rushed one to please the fans.
The game is going to be released when it's ready in a year ( I say this Dec in JP and Q1 2013 in NA / EU )... They just let us know about the game very very early which was a mistake.
I rather have a solid polished game than a rushed one to please the fans.
SolidSnakex
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Why would the move it to a next gen platform? That would only increase its development time.
Every time Square/Nomura talk about those types of things as "updates" or make it sound news worthy I wonder what kind of bubble they do they live in?
I don't know why people keep clinging onto it like it's some sort of messiah. Let it die.
Square have been shit this generation as far as in house development goes for next gen systems, and I fully expect Versus to follow that trend.
I'll be here laughing when your much anticipated Versus turns out to be a steaming turd of a game, just like XIII, and XIII-2.
Square have been shit this generation as far as in house development goes for next gen systems, and I fully expect Versus to follow that trend.
I'll be here laughing when your much anticipated Versus turns out to be a steaming turd of a game, just like XIII, and XIII-2.
Clearly not enough people have seen the January 11' trailer if they really believe Versus XIII will be cancelled at this point:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiIx9VJWSl8
And for the game's slow development we have Toriyama to thanks for that again. The Kingdom Hearts team had to help out a lot during XIII's crunch time. We can assume that the same happened again with XIII-2 due to Nomura's comment from late last year saying that the game was finally entering 'full production' - essentially meaning that his staff weren't going to be shuffled to other projects anymore.
And for the game's slow development we have Toriyama to thanks for that again. The Kingdom Hearts team had to help out a lot during XIII's crunch time. We can assume that the same happened again with XIII-2 due to Nomura's comment from late last year saying that the game was finally entering 'full production' - essentially meaning that his staff weren't going to be shuffled to other projects anymore.
sublimit
Banned
It might be Square's last chance to redeem themselves this generation.All the info and footage we've seen so far makes it look as the most ambitious FF to date.
Many are even regarding it as the true FF of this generation,so it's very natural that people are still geting excited for it even with the (actual) news drought.
RyougaSaotome
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As far as I'm concerned, no one would be up in arms, if Square Enix had simply waited until they had an actual game to show before announcing Versus.
SE has a nasty habit of announcing games long before any real development begins on them. I don't particularly care if you spend six years on a game and then announce it within a year of its release date.
SE has a nasty habit of announcing games long before any real development begins on them. I don't particularly care if you spend six years on a game and then announce it within a year of its release date.
DarknessTear
Banned
Honestly, look at the state of Japanese RPGs in general. Square-Enix is the only company pushing out the real quality JRPGs right now. Sure, they're fucking up in some ways, but S-E isn't nearly as bad as you people are saying. Also, the Versus team is entirely different than the team working on XIII and XIII-2, so don't expect the same results.
This game embodies everything that is shit about square enix. Remember the glory days of square soft. I mean how on earth can you release two final fantasy games and countless other psp games while this game rots in dvelopment hell.
It would be absolutely hilarious and sad at the same time if this game turns out to be a disappointment when it comes out.
It would be absolutely hilarious and sad at the same time if this game turns out to be a disappointment when it comes out.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
We're nearing the end of the generation and so far there are no signs of the game coming out this year or even next year. Soon there will be new consoles replacing the PS360, so why not just move the game to next-gen platforms to have it ready for launch rather than release it for the older platforms?
But just because a new generation of systems come out doesn't mean games for the old ones automatically stop being made/bought.
It's ambitious in a sense that they are trying to offer the kind of massive world/experience found in PS1 era JRPGs, but with production values, quality of assets & stuff that's expected from a Uncharted like sub-10 hour PS3 shooter, not necessarily a 30-40+ hour RPG with the scope it offers. Plus they are doing a lot of things differently, like moving away from "look how pretty these are" cutscenes into more interactive ones, offering a KH-like battle system but one where you can actually control all characters instead of just one and having the AI do the rest, controllable airships (not just "pick a spot in map" kind), more interactive environments (bridges that collapse and the like) etc. Maybe the features are not completely new to gaming, but it could add up for a pretty impressive overall package. I don't really see any other JRPGs or WRPGs trying to do what Versus is seemingly doing.
As far as game mechanics go, The World Ends With You and Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep are the best action RPGs Square has ever done (though, Secret of Mana's atmosphere still tops those two). FFXIII is a huge step behind from XII, but XIII-2 takes a few steps into the right direction again. Dissidia is a really great 3d brawler, 3rd Birthday is a fun but flawed shooter RPG. FF Type-0 is a massive improvement over Crisis Core in pretty much every way, and Crisis Core itself was a decent hack 'n slash.
When's the last time you even played Kingdom Hearts? 'Cause if you haven't played at least Birth By Sleep (& KHII Final Mix, which is almost as awesome), then you shouldn't be talking about how "crap" the series is.
They've had a relatively small team working on it for a long time, I don't think the development costs are as big as some are thinking. It's not like they've had a 300 man team working on it for all this time. It started with a small team figuring out the limitations of PS3 and doing some techdemo-y stuff, then after the foundation was done they moved a slightly bigger team on it (from what I've gathered, something like 50 to 60 people), and last summer they seemd to hit that phase in development where they build up the team size for the final stretch of development, where they really start crunching the game together.
THEY don't make it sound news worthy. 100% of the time Nomura is interviewed about some other game (Kingdom Hearts or the like) and then the interviewer asks about Versus XIII ("So what's up with Versus?"). He's not just going to say FUCK OFF to the interviewers, so he gives a bit of an update on what they've been doing recently. It's the sensationalist news headlines like "NOMURA TALKS ABOUT VERSUS" that make them seem like a big deal even though a majority of the interviews are usually about talking completely different projects (Kingdom Hearts, Theatrhythm, Type-0, the like).
Square Enix announced the game too early, they've got nothing to lose now so they might just as well make sure that what they show is really good and showcases exactly all the things the game has to offer instead of leaving people underwhelmed.
They've fixed that already. Really, try to name games after E3 2006 which were announced too much in advance. Not many names come to mind, if any.
I expect results similar to kh: disappointing and uninspired
Combichristoffersen
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No, but as it is, we have no idea if this game will even be out before next-gen consoles. Well, in fact it won't, as WiiU will be out before VsXIII anyway. So move it to next-gen consoles to have it ready as a launch title, or just cancel the damn thing and be done with it.
Gamz_Gernaliz
Banned
Take a look at Squares performance this gen, how could the game be anything other than a disappointment?
This late in the game, I don't think they're expecting this to really be a system seller anywhere other than Japan, which by the time this comes out, will have a lot of PS3s and therefore sell a ton. Moving it to next gen would probably delay it even further and it'd be sold to a smaller audience.
DarknessTear
Banned
Really? If you look at the mere idea of Kingdom Hearts on paper, it sounds like the worst idea for a game that you could possibly come up with. Uninspired is a funny word to use, considering how good of an Action RPG it really is. They turned that idea into something really amazing. Sure, it has a convoluted plot, and the second game is easy, but either you didn't grow up watching Disney movies or you're seriously downplaying how good the games are.
Final Fantasy XII was released a year after Xbox 360 arrived and close to PS3's launch in Europe & North America, yet that didn't stop it from selling millions of copies and being one of the best JRPGs of all time, after a similarly long (& troubled) development cycle as Versus XIII.
Combichristoffersen
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FF XII was great, but it would arguably have been better off if they'd moved development to PS360 to utilize the superior hardware.
And at least that might've given us a HD version of FF XII since SE are currently too busy rehashing FF X (boo, hiss) instead of working on a glorious HD port of FF XII.
DarknessTear
Banned
That may happen, but if it does, it'll be a much lower quality release, and multi disc. Considering how much CG they've shown so far, I don't doubt that there will be a fuckton more. So there will be more Bink video fail, and maybe the PS3 version will get a quality drop again so it can look closer to the 360 version.
FFVIII was also released a couple months before the PS2 and FFIX was released after the PS2 came out.
What is Nomura's stand on the 360 anyways? I've never really heard him talk about it that I can remember.
DarknessTear
Banned
archnemesis
Member
Not a math major, huh?
DarknessTear
Banned
He just said that Versus remains an exclusive to the PS3. That's the last I've heard on the subject in his last interview. People seem to think that will change. Maybe it will. I don't doubt Wada has a boner for the idea.
Major? Man, you don't need to be a major.. that's something a first grader wouldn't fuck up on.
Haunted
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Just think of the guy who bought a PS3 for The Last Guardian, XIII and Versus XIII.
He must be pretty crushed right now.
They cranked out games like mad back then. This generation really screwed them over. Either that or the Enix merger.
PumpkinPie
Banned
LOL Square, what happened to you?
Classics too! Now we get shit games every 6 years instead of legends every year.
Classics too! Now we get shit games every 6 years instead of legends every year.
Yes. I got Skyrim brand new for £20 less than a month after release.
Sometimes price drops are bombas, other times it's a limited price. Bombas are easy to spot in my view, because they crash to £17.99 very quickly.
Added one of the reasons why I bought one.
Don't worry, it'll be 8 years when it finally comes out.
lol
Toriyama and Wada happened. Depending too much on Nomura and Kitase.
DarknessTear
Banned
Toriyama... and running Matsuno off with their stupidity.
Combichristoffersen
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DarknessTear
Banned
January of last year when they showed the gameplay trailer, Nomura claimed he's standing his ground on what platform it's exclusive to, so I'm not really sure. It doesn't matter either way, of course.
I don't think they need Nomura to port to the 360 though. His focus is on the PS3 version, doesn't mean others can't take his work and work on one for the 360.
Ok, they are doing well in making smaller games for the handheld market and yes, they have picked up a few good games to publish which other companies have developed.
However, the only two big budget, HD console games in that list which S-E have had complete control over are FFXIII and XIII-2. Both of which took a huge amount of development time and (in my opinion) are far, far below par for a series of that size.
The PS3 only FF games and the promise of a new Team ICO game nearly swayed me at the start of this generation. I was almost that guy.
hey crisis core was alright to be fair
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