Mass Effect 3 review thread

Acquiescence said:
This bothers me...



... which essentially means that I've got to pay for XBL in order to attain the game's best outcome. I'd have gotten the game for the PS3, but I wanted to carry over my import reviews from 1 and 2.

Dang it!
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oh damn, that's stupid. my 360 isn't even hooked up to the internet

gahhhh.
 
Baconsammy said:
If that were the case, we'd see a lot more undeserved scores for lower budget games, since the success of those is what would grow the industry. Not outrageously high scores for games that are going to sell boatloads regardless of score. Where was all this supposed hyperbole when the latest FF came out? Or did all the reviewers jump on a conference call and decide that they're not going to overhype that series anymore? It's actually easier to assume that perhaps reviewers really did like Skyrim, Mass Effect 3, Super Mario Land, etc etc. It doesnt always have to be a conspiracy.
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No, because people don't know about lower budget games, so they don't view videos, watch previews, buy mags etc. Big name games sell, so they get big scores to maintain the hype so when big game ++ is released there is a similar effect.

As you mentioned occasionally there will be a back lash against games like FF to restore some cred so they can hype up the targeted games. It is not a conspiracy, just the way it works.
 
I'm 100% convinced this will be another Skyward Sword scenario were reviewers give the game perfect scores because it's Zelda (or in this case, ME), and I end up liking it, but can't help but be little underwhelmed by the experience (luckily, the mulitplayer is fun)
 
Callibretto said:
my hype for this game have been deflated by the demo, that coupled with other games coming out soon make me think to skip ME3 and wait for the complete edition
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Because they've got a history of releasing those?

toddhunter said:
No, because people don't know about lower budget games, so they don't view videos, watch previews, buy mags etc. Big name games sell, so they get big scores to maintain the hype so when big game ++ is released there is a similar effect.

As you mentioned occasionally there will be a back lash against games like FF to restore some cred so they can hype up the targeted games. It is not a conspiracy, just the way it works.
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What you just described would be a conspiracy. "We're going to restore our industries credibility by all agreeing to shit on Final Fantasy. But then we're going to aid the growth of industry by splooging all over Mass Effect 3." Sorry, doesn't work that way. Reviewers as a collective aren't bright enough to pull something like that off.
 
Baconsammy said:
Yes, you're right. They should have gone out of their way to hate the game, and the series, to satisfy the bloodlust of the perpetual haters.
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Didn't say they had to hate it. A six out of ten or a seven out of ten doesn't mean you hate something either. Ultimately the score is irrelevant, I just would have preferred to see more level headed reviews than the hyperbolic drivel I see all over.
derFeef said:
There are plenty of reviews that point out bad stuff, like the RPS one.
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There are like two or three of them against the weight of over 20 reviews like this:
As with any game that dares to be ambitious, deconstruct Mass Effect 3 into its constituent parts and of course there are flaws, but taken as a whole this is arguably the first truly modern blockbuster, a game that transcends the genre boundaries of old and takes what it needs from across the gaming spectrum in order to finish its story in the most compelling, thrilling, heartbreaking way possible.
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Dance In My Blood said:
Didn't say they had to hate it. A six out of ten or a seven out of ten doesn't mean you hate something either. Ultimately the score is irrelevant, I just would have preferred to see more level headed reviews than the hyperbolic drivel I see all over.

There are like two or three of them against the weight of over 20 reviews like this:
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Maybe the flaws did not get mentioned because the overall experience is just so good? Pointing out those (funny for sure) quotes does not mean that person's opinion is wrong or something.
 
Dance In My Blood said:
Didn't say they had to hate it. A six out of ten or a seven out of ten doesn't mean you hate something either. Ultimately the score is irrelevant, I just would have preferred to see more level headed reviews than the hyperbolic drivel I see all over.

There are like two or three of them against the weight of over 20 reviews like this:
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The game's apparently very good. I don't know what to tell you.
 
Moaradin said:
You can do MP OR SP. You can get a 100% completion by only doing SP. The fact that every MP Achievement also doubles as a SP Achievement makes it obvious.
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Well why did the review neglect to mention that! And I've been steering clear of achievements for fear of spoilers.
 
derFeef said:
Maybe the flaws did not get mentioned because the overall experience is just so good? Pointing out those (funny for sure) quotes does not mean that person's opinion is wrong or something.
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He's also conveniently leaving out the negatives that are pointed out in most every single review that rated the game highly. The impression given that the plusses far outnumber the minuses and that for many this series of games is a high watermark for the industry. Hardly hyperbolic.
 
Baconsammy said:
If that were the case, we'd see a lot more undeserved scores for lower budget games, since the success of those is what would grow the industry. Not outrageously high scores for games that are going to sell boatloads regardless of score. Where was all this supposed hyperbole when the latest FF came out? Or did all the reviewers jump on a conference call and decide that they're not going to overhype that series anymore? It's actually easier to assume that perhaps reviewers really did like Skyrim, Mass Effect 3, Super Mario Land, etc etc. It doesnt always have to be a conspiracy.
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I don't think its a conspiracy, but nor am I naive enough to believe that there isn't shady shit happening (not that I am saying you are, I am talking just about myself). Remember that IGN Music page? What about what happened to Jeff Gerstmann? Or stories about IGN changing reviewers to get a better score for a exclusive review.

I agree that most reviews are fine but its good for people to question things, and not just accept everything at face value.

Edit: Edge review is up
 
I just watched the IGN review/ad..

There are regular frame rate drops and I often fell through the environment and died randomly, or I would get caught in the environment and had to reload my save. Like other RPG's like Skyrim and Fallout 3 the game is SO GOOD that it's easy to just ignore these problems.
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Errr...having to reload your save or randomly dying doesn't sound easy to ignore.
 
A lot of these reviews, to me, read as quite hyperbolic and/or don't seem to look for the same things that I do in the ME games. 2 reviewed better than 1, so I know not to get excited just yet.
 
Spiffy_1st said:
Errr...having to reload your save or randomly dying doesn't sound easy to ignore.
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Both ME and ME2 had problems with getting stuck on geometry and forcing reloads so it looks like this is still a problem. I lost a good portion in one section in ME2 because of it.
 
Big-E said:
Both ME and ME2 had problems with getting stuck on geometry and forcing reloads so it looks like this is still a problem. I lost a good portion in one section in ME2 because of it.
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Yeah I levitated a few times and got stuck in the air and had to reload in ME2. Fuck that shit.
 
I would probably love this game even if it just played like ME2 part 2, with no major improvements/additions. The story and world has me hooked, I've had my character since the first one and I want to go back and see what happens. That's the thing with this game - it has a lot of people at hello.
 
Just read about 5 reviews and Sean Molloy's "This but this" review format is still the best way to describe most of them.
 
"... I got a refund the same day I purchased it and I yelled at the cashier." *




*Metacritic user review quote
 
Lmao at the metacritic user score.

I think mass effect is overhyped. I like the first one over the second one. I couldn't finish the second one because it was so boring. "Go find teammates" for 80% of the game, then go on that suicide mission. nice.
 
I have only read the RPS and Giantbomb review as those are the only sites outside of GAF that I bother reading but has anyone mentioned what has replaced planet scanning?
 
I find it a little ridiculous that Jeff (Giant Bomb) thinks, from a score point of view, that Syndicate is a better game than this. Whatever though, it's great to see all the high scores.
 
dejan said:
"... I got a refund the same day I purchased it and I yelled at the cashier." *


*Metacritic user review quote
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Lmao.

I get a kick out of all the hyperbole from the media as much as the next guy, but user reviews on Metacritic are almost as hilarious.
 
I'm not one to dismiss high review scores out of hand, and ME3 may well be one of the best games of the generation, but I find it difficult to trust journalists who write reviews like they're about to soil themselves in the grip of ecstatic frenzy. Sensationalism is uninformative at best. It hinders the measured critical analysis I want to read when I'm unsure if a game is worth my time and money.

Riposte said:
Release: "RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE. REDEFINES WHAT IT MEANS TO BE ALIVE. NEVER AGAIN WILL I FEEL THIS WAY."

9 months later: "It's pretty good, but has a lot of flaws. GotY maybe"

1 month before Mass Effect 4: "Eh, I hope they do better this time. The writing in the last one was fucking terrible, they simplified it so much, and the combat was so behind other games in the genre."

(You can call this the "GTA4 Effect" if you want.)
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Nailed it.
 
Ah, it's always entertaining to see the latest media darling hit the review circuit.

I can almost taste the GAF 2012 GOTY award already.
 
Monocle said:
I'm not one to dismiss high review scores out of hand, and ME3 may well be one of the best games of the generation, but I find it difficult to trust journalists who write reviews like they're about to soil themselves in the grip of ecstatic frenzy. Sensationalism is uninformative at best. It hinders the measured critical analysis I want to read when I'm unsure if a game is worth my time and money.
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I find this thinking a little baseless. What do you want? People to have robotic faces and sullied emotion while playing their games? Just play the game with no feeling whatsoever? Everything has to be numerical and measured?

What the human being feels while playing the game is worth just as much as the technical/value issues that make up the game. Basically, a person can not be very excited for the game they're reviewing? That's what shows that the game is so good though.
 
Media hyperbole is silly, but those idiotic user reviews on metacritic are from a stupidity level beyond this universe.
 
Imp the Dimp said:
Er...what's the last game with a big budget that got poor reviews on day 1? It's impossible in this day and age. Professional reviews ain't worth shit.
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I agree

Not to beat a dead horse but this is especially fustrating/laughable when say recently released Binary Domain is just completely glossed over, even though honestly it's probably one of THE BEST TPS this entire gen.

Gaming "Press" are a goddamned joke
 
therealminime said:
I find it a little ridiculous that Jeff (Giant Bomb) thinks, from a score point of view, that Syndicate is a better game than this. Whatever though, it's great to see all the high scores.
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I find it ridiculous that a score differential of one between two games that are in different genres would upset people.
 
Moaradin said:
Game speaks for itself. I didn't have many doubts since both ME1 and ME2 are great games and favorites of mine, but so far ME3 has exceeded expectations.
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those are some pretty low expectations then. You want pad support next? come on dude. How can you say this is better?
 
Yeah, what Riposte said.

Personally I think I'm broken. I just can't enjoy the gameplay of the Mass Effect series (and I actually tried hard). I'm somewhat interested in the Story mode, just to see if I and my wife like the story - Mass Effect was actually one of the games that gave me the idea that a story mode could be a good idea. But I haven't checked yet to see if it is of a level where my wife can now play it, which is what I wanted out of that mode.

I think the biggest mistake that reviewers tend to make, is the assumption that there are games that everyone will like. As far as I am concerned, they don't exist, and quite often I run into games that get a lot of 10s, but I can't stand them. Reviewers could do with being a lot more precise in their recommendations as far as I am concerned. They can still give the same scores, but they should be more mindful of their audience.
 
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