Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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I might be reading too much into thing but I honestly feel Kai Leng was intended to be Shepard's foil. The very first time hes get introduced in the game you see him standing behind the Illusive Man talking about how he has his own solution to the problem. Kai Leng went through a process to rebuild his body like Shepard and is given the same objectives as him on the Citadel, reach the council, and on Thessia, get the beacon. It also get implied via the video logs at the Cerberus base that he has some kind of jealousy towards Shepard when TIM says he still respect Shepard and responding he is better then him.

I think it would have been neat if you got the chance to square off against Kai Leng on all the main missions and he had his own squad and crew. Eva Core could have been their EDI and I'm sure the comics and books have other named operatives the could have used. They have the plans for the Normandy for the SR-2 so they could have had a modified version of it. It would have made an interesting and Cerberus' constant meddling would have had a face.

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I've even SPECULATED that perhaps, the Husks and MARAUDER SHIELDS, were actually your allies, but you were blinded in your INDONCRIMMINYATIONS. Guess who Marauder Shields actually was....
 
I've even SPECULATED that perhaps, the Husks and MARAUDER SHIELDS, were actually your allies, but you were blinded in your INDONCRIMMINYATIONS. Guess who Marauder Shields actually was....
GARRUUUS? Saren pt. 2.

Anyone got a link to that pic of the comparison of the snow space screen and the image that you get if you google 'Space snow" or something?


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He was in two books. After ME2 I was pretty happy thinking they were just going to ignore the novels. No such luck for ME3

Deception doesn't exist unless I get a Turian rickshaw easter egg in the inevitable Take Back Omega DLC.
 
People didn't like MGS4's ending not just because (spoiler)

Yup, I know. I already said earlier that the ending wasn't the only thing that sucked in MGS4. I was a total fanboy for MGS till that game. A proper ending would have at least saved a bit of it.

ME3, up until the ending, was a culmination of all your decisions. Everything came to fruition. Then, right at the end, the game devolves into an absurdly binary selection of three colour themed endings, all of which are near identical and weighted minimally by your decisions made throughout the series....

I see. So a really HUGE clusterfuck. Thank you for explaining. I guess it's as if MGS4 was fine till the ending and then the ending did all the stuff that was actually done during the whole game all at once.
 
Kai Leng was an embarrassment. He fouled up the books even before Deception (which I won't read), but to show up in ME3...meh. And every temporary win in-game he had was to pull out a support ship or something out of his ass. Smugly, no less. LOL
 
I finished it earlier and I chose the "destroy synthetics" ending, and I'd probably regard that as the canonical ending as it makes more sense to me (all synthetics dying, organics having freedom). Shepard twitching is - I guess - some cheap way to suggest he's still alive. Then there's the stupid scene after the credits in which there is another tale to tell about the guy (the whole "oh this is the legend of Shepard" undermined the 'here and now' of the story; I don't want a shitty future scene where some dipship tells his brat about what I just did). I'm also not totally against the idea of all the relays being destroyed. It would set back the galaxy a fair bit in terms of travel but it could pose interesting scenarios for whoever remains on Earth/in orbit. Do they stick around or do they all fuck off?

Anyway, that's my stubborn side trying to come up with a rough acceptance and understanding of the finale I chose. Dunno if anyone else sees it like that.

My other, more logical/realistic half is just screaming "WAT WAS THAT".

Whatever, time to start a second run; everything about the game bar how the ending was handled is superb. :P
 
So he basically admitted they were making it up as they went along. Cerberus wasn't planned to be important at all when they designed ME1.

Not surprising really, a lot changed from ME1 to ME2, story, gameplay mechanics, the first game can stand to be a bit vague with how the future is going to be as it was apparently planned to be a trilogy, we had a bad guy and a bigger bad guy behind him, the bigger bad guy being one of many with a reasons we didn't know.

Now with ME2 they really should have known where it was going to end up in ME3, and they apparently did with the Dark Energy story, there were hints during missions and when visiting planets about it, it was also suppose to be the reason for the Human Reaper, all which could have been concluded in ME3 neatly as it was apparently going to.

Of course they didn't use that, changed it and decided to not even mention Dark Energy at all even though it was the background for one of the missions in ME2 and is now a plot hole they are probably never going to answer.

If anything I hope Bioware learn that you can't just write these things as you go and hope that fans suck it up.
 
What was the dark energy storyline? Is there anywhere we can read up about it?

I don't know much about it, it was mentioned in this thread (difficult to find), but here is a brief explanation of it: http://www.oxm.co.uk/39736/revealed-the-mass-effect-3-ending-bioware-canned-before-release/

It was from the original (me1) writer who left to work on the old republic. Explains the human reaper, Haestrom sun, etc. Instead, the ending and explanation we ended up with makes me2's story irrelevant.
 
What's truly awful is that there is the strong possibility that "My sweet" will be the last thing that Buzz Aldrin is remembered for :(
 
Ending was so perfect before that starchild and choosing crap. They just could have given me cool clip of reapers blowing up after shepard and andersson died and then some still pics with nice music and text explaining how my decisions along the three games shaped the galaxy and then some info of what happened to my crew. That would have been pretty cheap but still absolutely okay. I really can't understand how bioware green lighted current ending. Nothing what you have done along the games mattered. It was horrible.
 
I authorized it and she still died :(

From what I understand you see Miranda three times. The first time you meet her on the citadel and it is all "blah blah blah". The second time you communicate with her via the communicator in the Spectre offices. This appears to be the critical point, you need to communicate with her at this time because it warns her about the Cereal Eating Assasin Kei Leng. If you don't do the second communication then she never knows about Kai and he grabs her lucky charms.
 
I still maintain - what the fuck happened to Harbinger? :P

That's the part that annoyed me the most while playing. In retrospect, the complete illusion of choice when looking at the other endings is definitely ultra-lame, but while actually playing it, it was Harbinger that was frustrating. He's virtually unstoppable and decides to just go back off into space, to where? Something else that required his attention? Not the Crucible and Citadel?
 
Random question time. Doesn't the existence of the Reapers disprove their own logic?

The whole assumption is that synthetics will always rebel against their creators eventually destroying all forms of life throughout the galaxy. The reapers are, however, a synthetic form of life and have not sought out the destruction of all organics.

I'm a bit confused as to their motives.
 
I still maintain - what the fuck happened to Harbinger? :P

That's the part that annoyed me the most while playing. In retrospect, the complete illusion of choice when looking at the other endings is definitely ultra-lame, but while actually playing it, it was Harbinger that was frustrating. He's virtually unstoppable and decides to just go back off into space, to where? Something else that required his attention? Not the Crucible and Citadel?

You missed all the indoctrination theories that were popping up before today's events shot it down.
 
I still maintain - what the fuck happened to Harbinger? :P

That's the part that annoyed me the most while playing. In retrospect, the complete illusion of choice when looking at the other endings is definitely ultra-lame, but while actually playing it, it was Harbinger that was frustrating. He's virtually unstoppable and decides to just go back off into space, to where? Something else that required his attention? Not the Crucible and Citadel?

See? Now you've come around to the crux of the matter!

As for Harbinger, he's the Reaper with the yellow eye, but from what I understand his voice actor wasn't available.
 
I still cant believe that Bioware didnt know how fans were going to react. They must really be out of touch with their fanbase if they didnt realize that people would flip their computer out the window after seeing the ending and start ripping into Bioware. :lol
 
From what I understand you see Miranda three times. The first time you meet her on the citadel and it is all "blah blah blah". The second time you communicate with her via the communicator in the Spectre offices. This appears to be the critical point, you need to communicate with her at this time because it warns her about the Cereal Eating Assasin Kei Leng. If you don't do the second communication then she never knows about Kai and he grabs her lucky charms.

Oh, RIP Miranda. Not that it matters. You're probably better off having died that way.

Oh, can you get Jacob to join you as a playable character? I felt sorry for him so I sent him with his girlfriend to the Crucible.
 
I don't know much about it, it was mentioned in this thread (difficult to find), but here is a brief explanation of it: http://www.oxm.co.uk/39736/revealed-the-mass-effect-3-ending-bioware-canned-before-release/

It was from the original (me1) writer who left to work on the old republic. Explains the human reaper, Haestrom sun, etc. Instead, the ending and explanation we ended up with makes me2's story irrelevant.
Wait, was it confirmed that was Karpyshyn? Whaat
 
I still maintain - what the fuck happened to Harbinger? :P

That's the part that annoyed me the most while playing. In retrospect, the complete illusion of choice when looking at the other endings is definitely ultra-lame, but while actually playing it, it was Harbinger that was frustrating. He's virtually unstoppable and decides to just go back off into space, to where? Something else that required his attention? Not the Crucible and Citadel?
To blow up Casey Hudson's house.
 
I turned my avatar Prothean but I can't decide whether to go with the lens flares too. All official Bioware art of Javik has lens flares. A lot.

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